Cracker Barrell lawsuit......

K_Jo

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kwillia said:
I understand you completely and agree with you that the "name" shouldn't be held responsible for the actions of a particular establishment within their chain.

On another note, I really get bent when folks are quick to assume "there must be some truth to it if someone took the time to file a lawsuit" because any sue happy freak can file a lawsuit without having to have a proof to back it up. You rarely get to hear whether these lawsuits actually make it to court.
Yes.
 
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juggy4805

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vraiblonde said:
I was unaware that this was a recurring thing with them.

But, that said, if they are being repeatedly sued for discrimination, it could be a snowball effect (or whatever you call it) similar to what happened to tobacco and McDonalds. If a large corporation gets sued for something, and the plaintiff wins, it sends the signal to other plaintiff wannabes that this is a sure thing.

I highly doubt that Cracker Barrel issues a corporate edict that black people should be discriminated against. We'd have certainly heard about it by now. So, if anything, it's individual locations that are having problems, not the company as a whole.

Any accusation of racism has no validity on this forum according to the general consensus here. Whenever there is a story similar to this the BS flag is thrown by everyone here. Seems wierd to me. They all can't be BS.
 
juggy4805 said:
Any accusation of racism has no validity on this forum according to the general consensus here. Whenever there is a story similar to this the BS flag is thrown by everyone here. Seems wierd to me. They all can't be BS.
Why are you just focusing on stories posted regarding accusations of racism? The BS flag is thrown quite often for stories of reported rapes and other abuses as well.
 

crabcake

But wait, there's more...
Not that I condone discrimination, but don't private businesses have the right to refuse service to anyone they so choose? :shrug:
 
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juggy4805

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kwillia said:
Why are you just focusing on stories posted regarding accusations of racism? The BS flag is thrown quite often for stories of reported rapes and other abuses as well.

This thread isn't about rapes and other abuses though.
 

LordStanley

I know nothing
Where is Chris Rock in all this... Did you see her picture, she looks like a wreck. He is a millionaire, and she's eating at crackerbarrel.....

Come on Pooky, take care of your momma
 
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juggy4805 said:
This thread isn't about rapes and other abuses though.
My point is valid in regards to your post. I am pointing out that the BS flag does not just get thrown for accusations of racism, therefore, our skeptism cannot be attributed to racism which is what you seemed to imply.
 

harleygirl

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juggy4805 said:
Any accusation of racism has no validity on this forum according to the general consensus here. Whenever there is a story similar to this the BS flag is thrown by everyone here. Seems wierd to me. They all can't be BS.
I threw the BS flag Juggy because I frequent this restaurant quite often, and have for 4 years or so. I have a place in Murrell's Inlet, and go down frequently. The management and much of the staff are African-American and extremely professional. The restaurant is quite busy, I have a feeling they were told it would be a wait and they are pulling the race card.
 

MMDad

Lem Putt
vraiblonde said:
And to clarify:

It's like saying McDonalds discriminates against blacks. A certain franchise might discriminate against blacks, but McDonalds as a corporation doesn't, unless they do it at the corporate (as opposed to the store) level.

Does that make sense?
That does make sense, because a local problem does not mean there is a corporate problem. However, since the name so important to a business like this, the corporation does have a responsibility to ensure their stores or frinchisees are complying with corporate policies.

The touchy-feely way to do this is with "diversity training", also referred to by employees as "nap time." The training goes over well in court, and allows the company to say "we told them not to do that", but has no effect on behavior.

If they want to be effective, they can monitor their franchisees through periodic inspections, surprise inspections, and secret shopper programs.

The fact the Sharpton is involved automatically makes me believe this suit is bogus, even if it were totally true. Why would she be so stupid to hook up with him? He's bankrolling the lawsuit, but I doubt she needs his money, unless Chris is so fed up with her that he won't pony up the $$$.
 

vraiblonde

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juggy4805 said:
Any accusation of racism has no validity on this forum according to the general consensus here.
That's because most of them sound like complete BS. Plus, we're so desensitized by people who claim racism where there clearly was none that we're numb.

And, like Kwillia pointed out, we're skeptical about everything on here, not just racism.
 

MMDad

Lem Putt
juggy4805 said:
Any accusation of racism has no validity on this forum according to the general consensus here. Whenever there is a story similar to this the BS flag is thrown by everyone here. Seems wierd to me. They all can't be BS.
I throw the BS flag because Sharpton is involved. He automatically discredits the whole allegation.
 
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juggy4805

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MMDad said:
I throw the BS flag because Sharpton is involved. He automatically discredits the whole allegation.

It's sad that when he gets involved it becomes discredited. I do feel its not the issue with him but only publicity.
 

vraiblonde

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I'd throw the BS flag simply because I find it hard to believe that a whole store is engaging in bigotry. Even if one hostess refused to seat Ms. Rock, certainly another one would have taken care of the situation and notified the manager. I've worked in restaurants with some less than enlightened types :jet: but they kept their opinions to themselves if they wanted to keep their job.

Plus, if this were a store-wide problem, it's most famous customer wouldn't have been the first one to experience it.

Now, LordStanley said that she "looked like a wreck", so I'd be inclined to believe that THAT is why she wasn't seated - not because she's black.
 

crabcake

But wait, there's more...
The fact that Sharpton wasn't even AT the meal is what makes me think it's :bs:. He has NO purpose in this, except to throw his name into the ring. And the Ms. DumbasaRock only went to him b/c she has no credibility on her own.
You hire a lawyer for cases like this; not a "celebrity" (and I use that term loosely). :ohwell:
 
Rose Rock, the mother of comedian Chris Rock, claims she was racially discriminated against after she was seated but ignored for a half hour at a Cracker Barrel restaurant along the South Carolina coast.
Rock said Tuesday she planned to sue the Lebanon, Tenn.-based company. A Cracker Barrel spokeswoman said the restaurant chain was investigating and taking the complaint "very seriously."


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If this is the gist of her complaint then I most definitely will throw the ":bs:" flag. I have had this happen at various restaurants over time and in each and every case it was a result of the hostess not notifying the waitperson that they had a new table. If the facts come out that she chose to sit there for half an hour and did not bother to go back to the hostess and complain than shame on her for thinking she is the center of the universe.
 

bresamil

wandering aimlessly
harleygirl said:
I threw the BS flag Juggy because I frequent this restaurant quite often, and have for 4 years or so. I have a place in Murrell's Inlet, and go down frequently. The management and much of the staff are African-American and extremely professional. The restaurant is quite busy, I have a feeling they were told it would be a wait and they are pulling the race card.
I was thinking the same thing. They just didn't want to wait to be seated. It's very seldom I've been seated in less than 5 minutes at any Cracker Barrel. Most days they are packed but when they aren't I've still waited. I thought it was a ruse to make you look around and buy something.

Oops! After reading what Kwillia posted...my dad once had to wait 20 minutes for coffee and I thought he'd go nuts. :lmao:

The article did state that there were several stores in the past that allowed white servers to no serve black customers and claims that the stores were segregated in their seating. I haven't been to the one in question but I've never witnessed that in any location. The only separation I see is smoking/nonsmoking.
 
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Rock, who is from Georgetown, said she and her 21-year-old daughter were the only blacks at the chain's Murrells Inlet restaurant in April. She said when she asked the manager about the delay she was told they could have a free meal.

"He never called over the waitresses and asked, `Why did these people sit here for a half hour without service?'" she said. "The only thing he said was we could have a free meal and neither of us wanted to eat."


She waited a 1/2 hour to ask about the delay and then gets pissed when the manager says he will give them their meal for free after being made aware of them not getting served. I have yet to see where she was refused service.... so until I can find that detail...:bs:
 

RoseRed

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kwillia said:
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Rock, who is from Georgetown, said she and her 21-year-old daughter were the only blacks at the chain's Murrells Inlet restaurant in April. She said when she asked the manager about the delay she was told they could have a free meal.

"He never called over the waitresses and asked, `Why did these people sit here for a half hour without service?'" she said. "The only thing he said was we could have a free meal and neither of us wanted to eat."


She waited a 1/2 hour to ask about the delay and then gets pissed when the manager says he will give them their meal for free after being made aware of them not getting served. I have yet to see where she was refused service.... so until I can find that detail...:bs:

Then what were they waiting for if they didn't want to eat?
 

vraiblonde

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Okay, now that I've actually read the story :jet:

I'm white and have sat in numerous restaurants for long periods of time without being acknowledged by a server. In fact, it happened just a few weeks ago at Outback, because the little waitress was too busy flirting with her table of good-looking men to concern herself with me and Larry.

In fact, now that I think about it, the waiter who ignored me at Tauraso's, then when he finally got around to coming to our table, informed me that they were out of practically everything on the menu, was black.

Can I file a discrimination lawsuit?
 
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