Larry Gude
Strung Out
Here's a good question to ponder.
If the Caps had Marc-Andre Fleury in net last year, do they win the cup?
If the Pens didn't have MAF, do they?
No. The Penns were clearly the better team, in my view.
Crosby > Ovechkin
- Thread starter Baz
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No. The Penns were clearly the better team, in my view.
BuddyLee
Football addict
I think the MVP of the Pens run last season was MAF. Without a hot goalie they're not the same team. They've proven that in MAF's absence time and again.
Larry Gude
Strung Out
OK, but, you asked about the season, right? I will grant you that a a hot goalie changes everything.
BuddyLee
Football addict
OldHillcrestGuy
Well-Known Member
Not this year Ovie has alot more assist's then Crosby and has played 8 fewer games and they are tied with goals. How do the other players you mentioned make the players
around them any better then what Ovie has done with his line of Backstrom 76 points, 26 goals and 50 assists, Knubble, 42 points, 23 goals and 19 assists. Green the defensemen who is out there usually when that line is on the ice has 60 points, 14 goals and 46 assists. Ovie, Backstrom, Shutlz, and Green, 4 of the top 5 +/- players in the league. :shrug:
Larry Gude
Strung Out
I'd kill for Miller.
Too bad we have to face him tonight.
I think you take this whole sports thing a bit too seriously.
Beta84
They're out to get us
you should check the career stats. they do a better job of summarizing a player.
BuddyLee
Football addict
Well, I wouldn't be THAT dramatic about it.:shrug:I think you take this whole sports thing a bit too seriously.
Larry Gude
Strung Out
Well, I wouldn't be THAT dramatic about it.:shrug:
Most terrifying movie. Ever.
Larry Gude
Strung Out
Bad day at the offfice for Wilbon.
BuddyLee
Football addict
OldHillcrestGuy
Well-Known Member
Basketball
LordStanley
I know nothing
Wanna see how good Crosby Really is???
Put him on a team like Columbus Blue Jackets or The Edmonton Oilers and see how well he does with out a supporting cast.
Lemeiux and Jagr used to be a tandem powerhouse that ruled the league for many years. As soon as they got seperated, they both sucked and fell by the wayside....
Put him on a team like Columbus Blue Jackets or The Edmonton Oilers and see how well he does with out a supporting cast.
Lemeiux and Jagr used to be a tandem powerhouse that ruled the league for many years. As soon as they got seperated, they both sucked and fell by the wayside....
Baz
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What???
Lemieux won 2 scoring titles before Jagr was drafted, and Jagr won the 3 after Lemieux retired (the first time) and another the following the year when Lemieux came back halfway (or so) through the season.
Jagr's "suckiness" was limited to his years as a Capital.
Larry Gude
Strung Out
What???
Lemieux won 2 scoring titles before Jagr was drafted, and Jagr won the 3 after Lemieux retired (the first time) and another the following the year when Lemieux came back halfway (or so) through the season.
Jagr's "suckiness" was limited to his years as a Capital.
Yup. Mario is an all timer.
Baz
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SoMdDude
New Member
Crysby is having a good year yes..but look at their numbers overall for their career's..lets see if Sid can keep having good years after this..I think we all know OV will , hes been doing it from the start.(hope this formats alright)
OV
GP G A Pts +/- PIM PPG PPA SHG SHA GW SOG Pct
379 261 248 509 62 282 88 112 4 0 39 2078 .126
Crysby
GP G A Pts +/- PIM PPG PPA SHG SHA GW SOG Pct
352 174 302 476 39 340 54 145 1 5 20 1167 .149
OV
GP G A Pts +/- PIM PPG PPA SHG SHA GW SOG Pct
379 261 248 509 62 282 88 112 4 0 39 2078 .126
Crysby
GP G A Pts +/- PIM PPG PPA SHG SHA GW SOG Pct
352 174 302 476 39 340 54 145 1 5 20 1167 .149