A must read for all who sided with Terri Schiavo's husband.
http://www.townhall.com/columnists/thomassowell/ts20050322.shtml
http://www.townhall.com/columnists/thomassowell/ts20050322.shtml
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'Cruel and unusual'
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Mikeinsmd
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Oh my, 2 more uninformed individuals or individuals who refuse to acknowlege fact. Tomchamp & Thomas Sowell.tomchamp said:
Every neurosurgeon interviewed has agreed that she feels NO pain!! Got it?? GET IT!!!
You call this a vested interest?? How about HIS right to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness?? SHE's BEEN DEAD FOR 15 YEARS!!!! The man did what was right and she was allowed to die by the only means allowed by law!! EVERY court in the land shot down her money grubbing family!! He gets nothing but pain and suffering from this. Let the man have his wife & family now. You guys are like a bunch of democrats after the election. YOU LOST!! LET IT GO~!!!
No, they don't get it. There are a surprising number of people that can't conceive of brain death, nor do they know what the brain's cortex is and what it does. I don't know about everyone else, but I learned about this stuff in 7th grade biology.Mikeinsmd said:
Terri Schiavo has been compared to abortion, death row inmates, the Pope, Jesus and any number of situations where the only common trait is that someone died. This, to me, is the height of absurdity and when I hear someone try and draw these comparisons, I immediately file them in the "kook" category and zen them out.
Who, Ken or the author of that column?Nickel said:ropaganda:
I should have added aNickel said:
after my question.But Ken's come around to Momma's way of thinking (again) so I'll let him be.
Larry Gude
Strung Out
I think y'all misread tomchamp...
...What I gathered was that he was providing another example of how steep the climb back to intellectual leadership and honor it is going to be once folks like Brother Sowell come back to their senses.
Thomas, like so many other, have bought into the emotions of the moment and left their thinking caps at home.
For Brother Sowell, a first step in regaining normal brain activity, which I'm SURE he missed in all the excitment:
http://www.reason.com/links/links102303.shtml
We can do it people, one reality check at a time.
...What I gathered was that he was providing another example of how steep the climb back to intellectual leadership and honor it is going to be once folks like Brother Sowell come back to their senses.
Thomas, like so many other, have bought into the emotions of the moment and left their thinking caps at home.
For Brother Sowell, a first step in regaining normal brain activity, which I'm SURE he missed in all the excitment:
http://www.reason.com/links/links102303.shtml
We can do it people, one reality check at a time.
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Larry Gude
Strung Out
Just in case anyone missed the link....
Reason online:
"Ms. Schiavo has been in this state for 13 years. What are her chances of recovering at least some awareness? Minnesota neurologist Ronald Cranford told the Washington Post, "There has never been a documented case of someone recovering after having been in a persistent vegetative state for more than 3 months. However, the journal Brain Injury reported the case, of a 26-year-old woman who, after being diagnosed as suffering from a persistent vegetative state for six months, recovered consciousness and, though severely disabled, is largely cognitively intact. However, it is generally agreed that if a patient doesn't become responsive before six months, his or her prognosis is extremely poor. A report on PVS by the Australian National Health and Medical Research Council finds that "patients in a state of post-coma unresponsiveness may emerge from it to become responsive," that "the probability of emergence becomes progressively less over time," and that "there is general agreement that emergence is less likely in older people, and in the victims of hypoxic brain damage." Terri Schiavo is the way she is because oxygen was cut off to her brain for 14 minutes; in other words, she suffered severe hypoxic brain damage.
So is Terri Schiavo still alive? The odds are way against it. It's time that her long-suffering parents and the grandstanding politicians let her go in peace"
Reason online:
"Ms. Schiavo has been in this state for 13 years. What are her chances of recovering at least some awareness? Minnesota neurologist Ronald Cranford told the Washington Post, "There has never been a documented case of someone recovering after having been in a persistent vegetative state for more than 3 months. However, the journal Brain Injury reported the case, of a 26-year-old woman who, after being diagnosed as suffering from a persistent vegetative state for six months, recovered consciousness and, though severely disabled, is largely cognitively intact. However, it is generally agreed that if a patient doesn't become responsive before six months, his or her prognosis is extremely poor. A report on PVS by the Australian National Health and Medical Research Council finds that "patients in a state of post-coma unresponsiveness may emerge from it to become responsive," that "the probability of emergence becomes progressively less over time," and that "there is general agreement that emergence is less likely in older people, and in the victims of hypoxic brain damage." Terri Schiavo is the way she is because oxygen was cut off to her brain for 14 minutes; in other words, she suffered severe hypoxic brain damage.
So is Terri Schiavo still alive? The odds are way against it. It's time that her long-suffering parents and the grandstanding politicians let her go in peace"
Larry Gude
Strung Out
Wille...
...allow me to introduce my sarcastic side.
I was giving him/her/it a break as a newbe. You know, the 'ol SOMD honey and flowers routine?
Just add Sowell to the painful list of people who having simply suspended reality to make a very frightening point;
That it should be up to the Federal government as to the relationship between a married man and woman, regardless if there is cause to intervene or not.
If you have no say in representing your spouse, what do you have say in?
willie said:
...allow me to introduce my sarcastic side.
I was giving him/her/it a break as a newbe. You know, the 'ol SOMD honey and flowers routine?
Just add Sowell to the painful list of people who having simply suspended reality to make a very frightening point;
That it should be up to the Federal government as to the relationship between a married man and woman, regardless if there is cause to intervene or not.
If you have no say in representing your spouse, what do you have say in?
mean that you agree with or disagree with what Sowell is saying in the article "Cruel and Unusual"?