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Cyurius

New Member
What's the deal with CS when filing taxes? I'm just curious. Does the NCP get to claim it? Does the CP have to pay taxes on it? What's the deal?
 

aps45819

24/7 Single Dad
What's the deal with CS when filing taxes? I'm just curious. Does the NCP get to claim it? Does the CP have to pay taxes on it? What's the deal?

They don't count.
If you're paying, you're screwed
If you're receiving, you don't have to claim it as income AND you get the deduction for the kids(s) if they live with you.
 

Cyurius

New Member
They don't count.
If you're paying, you're screwed
If you're receiving, you don't have to claim it as income AND you get the deduction for the kids(s) if they live with you.

That seems a bit odd. So, if the NCP doesn't get to deduct the kid(s) on taxes, why is that fair? If NCP is always on time with CS, then shouldn't he/she be able to deduct the child 50% of the time? CS is supposed to make parenting even....in a sort. Even though the child may spend more nights at the CP's house, the NCP is paying CS. Why couldn't they share?


Also, if the CP goes to file for assistance, such as food stamps, does he/she have to claim the CS as income? Because it's not fair if the CP says "I'm a single mother raising 2 children on $20,000 a year" and she doesn't mention getting X amount of dollars from NCP, that's lying on the form. Right? Because the social services/assistance/whatever would assume she's supporting her 2 children on just her salary, which is untrue.
 

aps45819

24/7 Single Dad
That seems a bit odd. So, if the NCP doesn't get to deduct the kid(s) on taxes, why is that fair? If NCP is always on time with CS, then shouldn't he/she be able to deduct the child 50% of the time? CS is supposed to make parenting even....in a sort. Even though the child may spend more nights at the CP's house, the NCP is paying CS. Why couldn't they share?


Also, if the CP goes to file for assistance, such as food stamps, does he/she have to claim the CS as income? Because it's not fair if the CP says "I'm a single mother raising 2 children on $20,000 a year" and she doesn't mention getting X amount of dollars from NCP, that's lying on the form. Right? Because the social services/assistance/whatever would assume she's supporting her 2 children on just her salary, which is untrue.

:lol: Why do you assume the intent is to be fair to the non custodial parent?
It's been my experience that I'm legally considered a sperm donor and a paycheck

Whoever has the kid most of the time gets the deduction. Any agreement you work out with you Ex is up to you.
Most financial forms state that revealing child support payments is voluntary (both paying and receiving)
 

vraiblonde

Board Mommy
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Typically you specify in the custody agreement who gets to claim the children on taxes.

And I believe, but am not positive, that CS does count when applying for state aid.
 

Cyurius

New Member
The CP spends more money on the kid and cares for them more than 60% of the year. Why should the NCP get to claim them? :confused:

Well, isn't the CS amount figured to make it "even?" If the NCP is still financially responsible (50%), then the NCP should get to claim them 50% of the time. :shrug:
 

sockgirl77

Well-Known Member
Well, isn't the CS amount figured to make it "even?" If the NCP is still financially responsible (50%), then the NCP should get to claim them 50% of the time. :shrug:

No, it is not. I have yet to see someone pay 1/2 of what it costs to raise a kid. :rolleyes:
 

aanderson

Member
Well, isn't the CS amount figured to make it "even?" If the NCP is still financially responsible (50%), then the NCP should get to claim them 50% of the time. :shrug:

Well my son's father pays maybe $250 a month...does that sound very even? Do you think it is possible for an 11 year old boy to live off of $500 a month? And remember that I pay the mortgage and all food and all medical expenses (including insurance) and tuition and etc. So why would I let his father claim him and get the benefit??? I don't think so!!!
 

Cyurius

New Member
No, it is not. I have yet to see someone pay 1/2 of what it costs to raise a kid. :rolleyes:

Um, OK. That's total bull####. If the NCP makes $100,000 a year, and the CP makes $30,000, you know for damn sure that the NCP will be paying a crazy high amount of CS.....more than what it actually costs to raise a child.


Anyhoo, CS is supposedly set up to make the child have the benefits from both parents...like it would be if the parents were married. Both parents would benefit from claiming the child if they were still married, so the NCP should get to share claiming the child. :shrug: If the NCP is still supporting the child, then he/she should be able to claim the child on taxes.
 

Cyurius

New Member
Well my son's father pays maybe $250 a month...does that sound very even? Do you think it is possible for an 11 year old boy to live off of $500 a month? And remember that I pay the mortgage and all food and all medical expenses (including insurance) and tuition and etc. So why would I let his father claim him and get the benefit??? I don't think so!!!

Look, I'm not asking these questions to get in an argument with you about what your son's father pays. Maybe he doesn't make much money. Maybe you don't make much money. Maybe that's why CS is so low. Maybe if you were married to the father, you'd both be strapped for money. :shrug: You expect him to go broke just because you both make little money? If you think it's so unfair, go back and have it adjusted.
 

sockgirl77

Well-Known Member
Um, OK. That's total bull####. If the NCP makes $100,000 a year, and the CP makes $30,000, you know for damn sure that the NCP will be paying a crazy high amount of CS.....more than what it actually costs to raise a child.


Anyhoo, CS is supposedly set up to make the child have the benefits from both parents...like it would be if the parents were married. Both parents would benefit from claiming the child if they were still married, so the NCP should get to share claiming the child. :shrug: If the NCP is still supporting the child, then he/she should be able to claim the child on taxes.

I am going to guess that you are the NCP. Do you pay half of her mortgage or rent? Do you buy 1/2 of the kids' necessities? Do you physically care for the kids' 1/2 of the year?
 

Cyurius

New Member
I am going to guess that you are the NCP. Do you pay half of her mortgage or rent? Do you buy 1/2 of the kids' necessities? Do you physically care for the kids' 1/2 of the year?

This is not about me. I'm was simply asking questions about CS and taxes because I didn't know. I'm not trying to get into an argument with bitter CPs about CS. :rolleyes:
 

aanderson

Member
Um, OK. That's total bull####. If the NCP makes $100,000 a year, and the CP makes $30,000, you know for damn sure that the NCP will be paying a crazy high amount of CS.....more than what it actually costs to raise a child.


Anyhoo, CS is supposedly set up to make the child have the benefits from both parents...like it would be if the parents were married. Both parents would benefit from claiming the child if they were still married, so the NCP should get to share claiming the child. :shrug: If the NCP is still supporting the child, then he/she should be able to claim the child on taxes.

If the NCP and the CP are equally sharing the responsiblity 100% then yes I agree that they should alternate years to claim the child...
 

aanderson

Member
This is not about me. I'm was simply asking questions about CS and taxes because I didn't know. I'm not trying to get into an argument with bitter CPs about CS. :rolleyes:

Don't be an ass...I an not bitter about being the CP because I get to see my son everyday and that is worth WAY more than getting a tax break!!! I was just commenting on my situation and if you check out my other post I did agree with you that if the financial responsibily is actually split equally then that is a different situation.
 

Chain729

CageKicker Extraordinaire
Typically you specify in the custody agreement who gets to claim the children on taxes.

And I believe, but am not positive, that CS does count when applying for state aid.

It does if it's court ordered and there's a paper trail. I do know someone that gets CS because of an agreement with the NCP. They don't claim it on anything. It sucks knowing that that much more of my tax dollars are going to support someone that's too lazy and irresponsible to become self-sufficient.
 

Cyurius

New Member
Don't be an ass...I an not bitter about being the CP because I get to see my son everyday and that is worth WAY more than getting a tax break!!! I was just commenting on my situation and if you check out my other post I did agree with you that if the financial responsibily is actually split equally then that is a different situation.

I wasn't being an ass. I just don't want to get all these posts from CPs saying I get this amount, and he doesn't do anything. :blahblah:

But thanks for agreeing with me.
 
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