Chasey_Lane
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Cursing/Swearing
- Thread starter pixiegirl
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AC/DC said:So, because I cuss, I'm evil?
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Are you actually talking to God or Jesus? If not, you are taking the Lord's name in vain.
What if someone kept saying Pixie this and pixie that and Pixie damn it, and so on. Substitute your real name. You'd get tired of it wouldn't you?
Can we wonder why this world is in such a mess with so many people asking God to damn some one or thing? Have you ever said, "God damn this car." and then wondered why it wouldn't start the next day? Substitute something else for the car.
Get it?
What if someone kept saying Pixie this and pixie that and Pixie damn it, and so on. Substitute your real name. You'd get tired of it wouldn't you?
Can we wonder why this world is in such a mess with so many people asking God to damn some one or thing? Have you ever said, "God damn this car." and then wondered why it wouldn't start the next day? Substitute something else for the car.
Get it?
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This is the Religion forum. The board admins have said to keep it respectful.
I freely admit, I don't curtail my use of profane language. I try to be respectful of the company I keep - like my mom, for example - and shut my mouth when it is in the vicinity of 'little ears'. And I've never been one to shout "Jesus Christ!" as a cuss word. It's just not one of my words.
But the New Testament is rife with discussion as to what kind of speech is appropriate for Christians. (This IS a religion discussion thread, after all). The passages which admonish Christians not to engage in coarse joking, profane language, filthy language etc (depending on your translation) suggest to me that the "line" is drawn where your best judgment lies. Obviously what is vulgar in the first century will be different now, and I suspect that THAT is why it isn't SPELLED OUT. (I'm reminded of the Shakespearean play where biting the thumb is considered an insult; obviously, it isn't, now).
It's never supposed to be "these are the things you can utter, and these words you may not". It's always been "this is the kind of person you should be, and this is not". You're grown-ups, in the New Testament. Use your own sound judgment.
You know, it warns people to be slow to speak, and to be careful what kinds of ruin you can bring to yourself and others if you don't watch what you say (context is NOT discussing cussing, however). It tells Christians to bless those who revile them; they are to be gracious to those who mistreat them in order to prick their consciences; or as it says "so as to heap hot coals on their head" as a metaphor.
So, when you wonder, does the Bible say I can't say Sh$t, the real thing a Christian should ask is what SHOULD I say, and use the good sense God gave him. It may sound trite, but the What Would Jesus Do principle is the best yardstick.
But the New Testament is rife with discussion as to what kind of speech is appropriate for Christians. (This IS a religion discussion thread, after all). The passages which admonish Christians not to engage in coarse joking, profane language, filthy language etc (depending on your translation) suggest to me that the "line" is drawn where your best judgment lies. Obviously what is vulgar in the first century will be different now, and I suspect that THAT is why it isn't SPELLED OUT. (I'm reminded of the Shakespearean play where biting the thumb is considered an insult; obviously, it isn't, now).
It's never supposed to be "these are the things you can utter, and these words you may not". It's always been "this is the kind of person you should be, and this is not". You're grown-ups, in the New Testament. Use your own sound judgment.
You know, it warns people to be slow to speak, and to be careful what kinds of ruin you can bring to yourself and others if you don't watch what you say (context is NOT discussing cussing, however). It tells Christians to bless those who revile them; they are to be gracious to those who mistreat them in order to prick their consciences; or as it says "so as to heap hot coals on their head" as a metaphor.
So, when you wonder, does the Bible say I can't say Sh$t, the real thing a Christian should ask is what SHOULD I say, and use the good sense God gave him. It may sound trite, but the What Would Jesus Do principle is the best yardstick.
pixiegirl
Cleopatra Jones
2ndAmendment said:
In the case of saying Jesus Christ I'd say yes I was talking to him. Almost as asking for an intervention.
And saying GD could be looked upon the same way. I rarely say it but I'll use the last time I did as an example. I was chopping up some potatos and talking to B at the same time. Cut right into my index finger and lobbed off a good hunk of skin. As soon as I did it I yelled "GDIT." Like damning what I had just done to myself.
Really not being a smartarse but if people thought highly enough of me to want me to damn things for them I'd be rather flattered that they held me in such high regard that it meant more that I damn something than if they just damned it themselves.
You may convince yourself, but ...pixiegirl said:
pixiegirl
Cleopatra Jones
2ndAmendment said:
I'm not trying to convince myself of anything. Like I've said several times. I rarely ever say either. Since I was raised the way that I was they've never become common parts of my curse word vocabulary. But if one does ever slip it is in the context that I've stated. I just don't see it as taking the Lord's name in vain.
I'm not asking for permission nor am I looking for excuses to add to my already long list of things I probably shouldn't say. I was simply looking at opinions on if the way it was used could be construed as taking it in vain.
Now as another example and something I'd never say because I do see it as over the top or disrespectful would be to say Jesus "effing" Christ. That to me is too much.
migtig
aka Mrs. Giant
I think it's proper manners not to do any cussing - but I am an admitted potty mouth so I can't judge. Though, I must say, in boot camp when my drill instructor came running up to me and said "Jesus H Christ MigTig" I had the most proper amount of respect and awe possible. :shrug: Was it swearing? I don't think so , because that particular feller never used a foul word the entire time I knew him. My two cents.
When I was little, my mom used to say "Jimminy Christmas!" instead of "Jesus Christ"...clever, huh?