DC air crash: the Dembot narrative takes shape

[RoseRed]

It's a normal travel way for the helos coming in and out....but they have to get cleared through, and everything I'm hearing was the Blackhawk was unresponsive to calls...

Lost my BIL and a friend that were coming home.....still in shock

These Dems are absolute trash.....

My sincere condolences to you and yours.

 

[somdwatch]

Without conspiracy theory crap ---

From what I have read, this kind of flying done domestically is usually a training flight, although from what I can tell, the pilot himself was experienced. Actual Blackhawk pilots have on X mentioned, they have found themselves in similar situations, because of the limitations of both kinds of craft - one mentioned a near head on collision miss that they avoided by mere seconds - that he was on.

What I DON'T get is - I've seen the flight paths of both aircraft - and the chopper was flying more or less down the Potomac, mostly following its path. ANYONE who's ever flown into Reagan knows, that whole area is full of planes arriving and taking off. I can't imagine in a million years, wanting to fly a chopper - at night - in that area around Washington.

It just seems crazy. I don't imagine that once they were on a collision path there was much chance to avoid it. It's not like playing chicken on the roadway. And I don't fly - I just trust the testimony of other pilots who have discussed the limitations of the aircraft =

Lifted from a Twitter post --

I spent some time as a Blackhawk crew chief here in the Wisconsin Guard and I was on a flight once with 5 crew on board and no one saw a GA aircraft headed right for us until probably 5 seconds before impact. The pilot noticed just in time to bank hard left and avoid the aircraft. One pilot was reviewing an emergency checklist for a simulated mechanical failure, while the the other was checking our destination on the GPS. All three crew members in the back had no line of sight directly in front of the aircraft. The GA aircraft had no transponder on, so the pilots did not see him on the map. And this was at probably 1000 ft altitude in the Wisconsin countryside. We were the only two aircraft in a 10 mile radius and almost hit eachother head on. Conclusion: most blackhawk flights stateside are training missions, and the crew can very easily become task saturated. Combine this with the SIGNIFICANTLY reduced field of view under night vision goggles, which the crew would have had to be using per SOP for night flights. For the landing passenger aircraft, they have basically 0 view beneath them. They would be relying almost 100% on ATC and their instruments. Although rare, this terrible coincidence is very possible. The potential savior here would have been ATC recognizing that not everyone was completely aware of eachother whereabouts, and telling the passenger aircraft to do a "go around", which means to cancel landing procedures and punch full throttle and climb in altitude to avoid potential dangers. I will likely get a safety briefing in coming days from the Army on what happened in the blackhawk, but regardless of that, ATC should have called a go around. Just my two cents.

Helo's usually fly the Potomac at 150 feet through the area if VFR.

 

[Merlin99]

It's a normal travel way for the helos coming in and out....but they have to get cleared through, and everything I'm hearing was the Blackhawk was unresponsive to calls...

Lost my BIL and a friend that were coming home.....still in shock

These Dems are absolute trash.....

It's normal that you wouldn't have heard the helo, the military is on the UHF radio and the civilian is on the VHF. ATC talks on both frequencies at the same time. ATC would have told the helo traffic on left at 010 and he sees an aircraft outside, not there but close enough, so he calls traffic in sight not realizing that there's actually a behind that one going 250 MPH. This is a guess, but you can see how something like this can happen.

I forgot to say it, but I'm sorry for your loss.

 

[my-thyme]

It's a normal travel way for the helos coming in and out....but they have to get cleared through, and everything I'm hearing was the Blackhawk was unresponsive to calls...

Lost my BIL and a friend that were coming home.....still in shock

These Dems are absolute trash.....

So sorry for you loss, extra hard when so unexpected.

 

[CPUSA]

It's a normal travel way for the helos coming in and out....but they have to get cleared through, and everything I'm hearing was the Blackhawk was unresponsive to calls...

Lost my BIL and a friend that were coming home.....still in shock

These Dems are absolute trash.....

So sorry for your loss...prayers & condolences to your family...

 

[GregV814]

okay, throw rocks, spears, cinder blocks, cat poop at me at will...... but in the event of what tragically happened, just hours ago, is this the best time to start slamming Buttiplug?

The President should/did face the nation and show sympathy, provide support to all, but, save the other stuff for a day or two.

 

[LtownTaxpayer]

okay, throw rocks, spears, cinder blocks, cat poop at me at will...... but in the event of what tragically happened, just hours ago, is this the best time to start slamming Buttiplug?

The President should/did face the nation and show sympathy, provide support to all, but, save the other stuff for a day or two.

I agree. We need to recover everyone and everything and get things figured out as best we can. Then there is time for everything else ON BOTH SIDES.

 

[vraiblonde]

okay, throw rocks, spears, cinder blocks, cat poop at me at will...... but in the event of what tragically happened, just hours ago, is this the best time to start slamming Buttiplug?

The President should/did face the nation and show sympathy, provide support to all, but, save the other stuff for a day or two.

I think it's important to tell it like it is, before the Dembot media has a chance to cement their propaganda. I didn't see Trump's presser, and on some level I agree that political fingerpointing should be for another day, but I appreciate Trump telling it like it is without regard for niceties. If people don't like truth and just want sugar instead, well, you got the wrong guy.

 

[vraiblonde]

I agree. We need to recover everyone and everything and get things figured out as best we can. Then there is time for everything else ON BOTH SIDES.

Right, but you know the Democrats won't wait for that. They're already attacking Trump and Hegseth, and they also tried blaming Sean Duffy even though he was literally confirmed mere hours before. Trump's getting in front of that, which is probably the right move even though it's not as touchy feely as some people want.

 

[Potomac]

Hey cult followers, all trumpster fire did was blame and point fingers. Its been LESS than 24 hours, no one knows the cause. These investigations takes months if not longer. Why is it ok for him to spout off blame and political bullshit. Oh I forgot, he's your dear leader and infallible. Go drink some bleach

 

[vraiblonde]

Hey cult followers, all trumpster fire did was blame and point fingers. Its been LESS than 24 hours, no one knows the cause. These investigations takes months if not longer. Why is it ok for him to spout off blame and political bullshit. Oh I forgot, he's your dear leader and infallible. Go drink some bleach

 

[GregV814]

Choppy has a new name? Hey Poto Mac..... Native Americans want their name back

 

[Potomac]

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Meh, most disgusted with people like you. What I said wasn't wrong... And you know it. You voted for a felon, you chose the bigot, the liar, the cheat. You picked this

 

[LtownTaxpayer]

Meh, most disgusted with people like you. What I said wasn't wrong... And you know it. You voted for a felon, you chose the bigot, the liar, the cheat. You picked this

Who actually was your president?

 

[vraiblonde]

Meh, most disgusted with people like you. What I said wasn't wrong... And you know it. You voted for a felon, you chose the bigot, the liar, the cheat. You picked this

I can't wait until your cult leaders start doing the perp walk. Pretty please come on here and vent your spleen when that happens.

 

[Toxick]

• Trump dismantled an aviation advisory committee, which made ATCs instantly incompetent.
• Hegseth becomes SecDef and all helicopter pilots immediately become incompetent.

And yet, the reason inflation was so high up to and through 2024 was because of Trump's economic policies from 2020....



I'm so glad people finally started seeing through all this bullshit.

 

[Gilligan]

Hey cult followers, all trumpster fire did was blame and point fingers. Its been LESS than 24 hours, no one knows the cause. These investigations takes months if not longer. Why is it ok for him to spout off blame and political bullshit. Oh I forgot, he's your dear leader and infallible. Go drink some bleach

Shew. You've become the poster child for illustrating "How to Prove Your IQ is Single Digit" in just a few posts. Congrats...I guess....

 

[Bann]

It's a normal travel way for the helos coming in and out....but they have to get cleared through, and everything I'm hearing was the Blackhawk was unresponsive to calls...

Lost my BIL and a friend that were coming home.....still in shock

These Dems are absolute trash.....

May they RIP. I'm so sorry - my condolences to you and your family.