ginwoman
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exactly what I was thinking. Looks like two doctors and a pharmacy dropped the ball on this. SCARY.
Debating on suing our doctor
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exactly what I was thinking. Looks like two doctors and a pharmacy dropped the ball on this. SCARY.
libertytyranny
Dream Stealer
In general I am not to fond of the idea of suing ( unless there was intent to harm someone)..especially doctors, they are, after all only human.
That being said, it is their job to give safe and sound advice..there are handy little books that every nurse and most doctors carry that would easily determine if drugs interact. They should check, and they def shouldn't be so flippant when you bring your concerns to the table. I am a MAJOR advocate for being totally involved in your own healthcare..esp when dealing with a chronic disorder like Bipolar...but this is what doctors and pharmacists are trained to avoid..you should be able to trust medicine given by your doctor..if you cannot a new doctor is certainly called for...but in the future I would purchase a drug interaction book, or check one of the many websites and doublecheck before starting a new medication. Many psychiatric drugs are prone to interaction with others... and many GP type doctors do not have much experience with these drugs..as they are generally prescribed by mental health professionals..so it may be very important for you to do your own checks. I am sorry you are having this issue..because it does take some finess to control bipolar..i hope all goes back to normal
That being said, it is their job to give safe and sound advice..there are handy little books that every nurse and most doctors carry that would easily determine if drugs interact. They should check, and they def shouldn't be so flippant when you bring your concerns to the table. I am a MAJOR advocate for being totally involved in your own healthcare..esp when dealing with a chronic disorder like Bipolar...but this is what doctors and pharmacists are trained to avoid..you should be able to trust medicine given by your doctor..if you cannot a new doctor is certainly called for...but in the future I would purchase a drug interaction book, or check one of the many websites and doublecheck before starting a new medication. Many psychiatric drugs are prone to interaction with others... and many GP type doctors do not have much experience with these drugs..as they are generally prescribed by mental health professionals..so it may be very important for you to do your own checks. I am sorry you are having this issue..because it does take some finess to control bipolar..i hope all goes back to normal
Baja28
Obama destroyed America
Maybe they used two different pharmacies.
Cowgirl
Well-Known Member
It's the doctor's job to ensure the drug he/she prescribes is safe for the patient. That's why they went to school for 8+ years, that's why they get paid so much. Hell, why would we even need doctors if we need to do everything ourselves?
Baja28
Obama destroyed America
Are you freakin serious??? You really are a headcase.
Who the hell are we to second guess a Dr. with 8+ years of intense medical training by "doing our own research"?? When did we become Dr.'s? If we don't think something is right, we get a second opinion.
libertytyranny
Dream Stealer
I aknowledge that..but there are so many drugs..and many that are not generally prescribed by GPs...that remembering every interaction is a super human feat...that is why they make drug interaction charts..the doc should have looked..no doubt they should have looked...but being human..its best if you are a willing and interested partner in your own healthcare...then working together with the doctor you can find something that works for you. still you are right..the doc was clearly wrong here and did not take the appropriate steps...I didnt want to sound like the doc was not at fault...
libertytyranny
Dream Stealer
Are you freakin serious??? You really are a headcase.
Who the hell are we to second guess a Dr. with 8+ years of intense medical training by "doing our own research"?? When did we become Dr.'s? If we don't think something is right, we get a second opinion.
Because you know your own health better than a doctor ever will...only you can say that a medication doesn't make you "feel right" or that though your lab results look better you dont feel better.....or some such..second opinions are great..but work for you even better if you go in well versed in what you are dealing with. I know people with chronic disorders that are far more knowledgable and up to date with research on their particular disorder than any GP ..and that helps them determine the appropriate care for them..in conjunction with their doc...Im not talking about telling your doc hes treating your cold wrong..or telling him how to set your broken leg..I mean people who deal with chronic lifetime disorders..
Are you freakin serious??? You really are a headcase.
Who the hell are we to second guess a Dr. with 8+ years of intense medical training by "doing our own research"?? When did we become Dr.'s? If we don't think something is right, we get a second opinion.
Well yes I am
I feel for their situation but you are wrong about Obama. It's the conservatives in congress wanting to limit the ability and amount of damages one can sue for through tort reform.
Pyrotech
Les Paul Addict
Nope, Thats the jist of it all. Amazing, I know, but thats it.
Pyrotech
Les Paul Addict
No, she wasnt suicidal UNTIL the third visit. And since we were already in the process of getting those shots, noone else would deal with it (I.E. new xrays, new eval, yadda yadda yadda.)
Pyrotech
Les Paul Addict
Im not a fan of suing either, as that should be the last resort, but when its missed by two doctors AND a pharmacist, I begin to question: WHOS NEXT. Thats why I am considering it. For the next person.In general I am not to fond of the idea of suing ( unless there was intent to harm someone)..especially doctors, they are, after all only human.
That being said, it is their job to give safe and sound advice..there are handy little books that every nurse and most doctors carry that would easily determine if drugs interact. They should check, and they def shouldn't be so flippant when you bring your concerns to the table. I am a MAJOR advocate for being totally involved in your own healthcare..esp when dealing with a chronic disorder like Bipolar...but this is what doctors and pharmacists are trained to avoid..you should be able to trust medicine given by your doctor..if you cannot a new doctor is certainly called for...but in the future I would purchase a drug interaction book, or check one of the many websites and doublecheck before starting a new medication. Many psychiatric drugs are prone to interaction with others... and many GP type doctors do not have much experience with these drugs..as they are generally prescribed by mental health professionals..so it may be very important for you to do your own checks. I am sorry you are having this issue..because it does take some finess to control bipolar..i hope all goes back to normal
punjabigyrl
Active Member
Sorry to hear about your ordeal. I personally think you have a case with the doctor and the pharmacist(s). When Doctors are in medical school, they are 2courses that they lack in, they are different types of meds and thier interactions and nutrition. Pharmacists on the other hand are constantly tested on the interactions. Ocassionally, you'll get a doctor that is well versed with meds and nutrition. That is also why pharmacy students are graduating with a pharm D and not a bachelors.
The pharmasist should have definately caught the interactions with the meds. However, with that being said, If you went to another pharmacy and they didn't have a record of all the meds your wife is on then, I can see how it got missed. Hope your wife feels better.
The pharmasist should have definately caught the interactions with the meds. However, with that being said, If you went to another pharmacy and they didn't have a record of all the meds your wife is on then, I can see how it got missed. Hope your wife feels better.
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Chickenman2x
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mal practice ?
Well if you do win your case what is left over after court fees and IRS is usually not much. Taking meds is like having a drink. You know what you can handle, duh?Doc do what they can if the side efdfects go hay wire yous to blame .Everyone knows about the side effects of meds. Enter at your own risk.You take them long enough you eventually know what works and what doesn't.
Sueing a rich doctor, good luck.
Well if you do win your case what is left over after court fees and IRS is usually not much. Taking meds is like having a drink. You know what you can handle, duh?Doc do what they can if the side efdfects go hay wire yous to blame .Everyone knows about the side effects of meds. Enter at your own risk.You take them long enough you eventually know what works and what doesn't.
Sueing a rich doctor, good luck.
You're probably not going to want to hear this, but you don't have a case. Yes, they were incorrect, but to have a case you have to have measurable damages. If he had screwed up giving her the shots and caused more problems or if something had physically happened to her as a result of taking the meds together then you could sue. But in reality you have no damages unless you can prove that she took the Valium and ended up with a hospital stay or more MDs visits or some sort of physical damage. And even if she did end up in the hospital or at the MDs office more often the money wouldn't go to you it would go to pay those bills. Been there, done it.
You CAN make a complaint to the state medical board. They will look at the information and cite the doctor if they deem appropriate. Usually it ends up with just a slap on the wrist unless this MD has multiple violations. It could make this doctor think a little more the next time he treats a patient, but it won't do much for you all except a little personal satisfaction.
In the mean time the best you can do is shop for new physcians. Hope things improve for you soon!
Pyrotech
Les Paul Addict
Things HAVe improved dramatically, mostly due to US taking the reins away from the doctors. I had my wife get ahold of her old doctor in Michigan who has been her doctor for years, and had him phone in a script. Pretty much ended that nonsense right there.
I dont see suing as a lost cause if someone else gets the benefit. Example: My wife has (no kidding) around 20 or so allergies, some are undiscovered as yet, and she was almost KILLED by the emergency room in a Michigan hospital (a well reknowned one) who gave her a drug for pain WHILE she was being diagnosed for severe abdominal pain, which we thought couldve been diverticulitis. Turned out, she developed a new allergy- Bananas. They gave her this medicine (starts with a "D") and she immediately blacked out. She awoke to multiple doctors reviving her with an antidote who said "welcome back, dont do that again"...
Here was obvious ineptitude between two doctors, both of them friends, both of which knew what she was taking daily which makes a medicine of hers toxic, how is it I have no case again? I forget.... How do you measure this damage? Death? Dont think Ill wait that long. But I DO like the reporting idea. Will DEFINITELY be looking into that one. Its just a matter of time before they do the same thing to another person, out of "overeducated ignorance". And to "chickenman2x"- I dont care what I would "get" out of the situation. I care what might happen to the next unsuspecting person. It might be someones beloved grandma next time. Who knows. And yes, I know my responsibility where meds are concerned, we arent doctors, we dont get PAID to be doctors. Thats THEIR job, they are the experts, and, sadly, we are stuck relying on them. So your post is irrelevant as far as whether we knew how she would be affected by this. This was the first time she took Valium for ANYTHING, and the experts, as it were, prescribed it in spite of her being on meds that would make a "toxin".
I dont see suing as a lost cause if someone else gets the benefit. Example: My wife has (no kidding) around 20 or so allergies, some are undiscovered as yet, and she was almost KILLED by the emergency room in a Michigan hospital (a well reknowned one) who gave her a drug for pain WHILE she was being diagnosed for severe abdominal pain, which we thought couldve been diverticulitis. Turned out, she developed a new allergy- Bananas. They gave her this medicine (starts with a "D") and she immediately blacked out. She awoke to multiple doctors reviving her with an antidote who said "welcome back, dont do that again"...
Here was obvious ineptitude between two doctors, both of them friends, both of which knew what she was taking daily which makes a medicine of hers toxic, how is it I have no case again? I forget.... How do you measure this damage? Death? Dont think Ill wait that long. But I DO like the reporting idea. Will DEFINITELY be looking into that one. Its just a matter of time before they do the same thing to another person, out of "overeducated ignorance". And to "chickenman2x"- I dont care what I would "get" out of the situation. I care what might happen to the next unsuspecting person. It might be someones beloved grandma next time. Who knows. And yes, I know my responsibility where meds are concerned, we arent doctors, we dont get PAID to be doctors. Thats THEIR job, they are the experts, and, sadly, we are stuck relying on them. So your post is irrelevant as far as whether we knew how she would be affected by this. This was the first time she took Valium for ANYTHING, and the experts, as it were, prescribed it in spite of her being on meds that would make a "toxin".
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CalvertNewbie
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Glad to hear your wife is doing better. It does amaze me that the professionals didn't do a better job. It's really scary to think that they would prescribe meds that don't interact well with one another. We shouldn't have to be the ones to know how certain meds will react with others we are on - that's what the medical professionals get paid to know. I hope your wife continues to get better, sounds like she has many issues. You must be very patient, you have your hands full.
Katelin
one day the dark will end
Why was she given Valium in the first place?
Why was she getting injections in her knee?
Arthiritis in the knee is not cured by any shots.
Weight loss, exercise and anti-inflamitory meds ( advil) is the best until surgery is an option.
And like a few others here, I doubt you have any grounds to sue anyone for this.
Good luck!
Why was she getting injections in her knee?
Arthiritis in the knee is not cured by any shots.
Weight loss, exercise and anti-inflamitory meds ( advil) is the best until surgery is an option.
And like a few others here, I doubt you have any grounds to sue anyone for this.
Good luck!
You haven't mentioned whether or not you were having your prescriptions filled at the same pharmacy. Did your Dr. in MI call in a script to a MI pharmacy and then you had it transferred for fill in MD?
I do believe that doctors tend to rely on the pharmacy to catch any interactions when they shouldn't. I've had a doctor tell me to make sure I always fill at the same pharmacy incase there are any interactions that he might have over looked.
I do believe that doctors tend to rely on the pharmacy to catch any interactions when they shouldn't. I've had a doctor tell me to make sure I always fill at the same pharmacy incase there are any interactions that he might have over looked.