BOP
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Was he shouting "Open snack bar!" or something like that?
Delta plane crashes at Toronto Pearson International Airport
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LightRoasted
If I may ...
For your consideration ...
What I see was an improper glide slope, no flaring/pitch up, and too fast. In addition, if you look at the video, the smoke and fire are blowing back down the runway, meaning they were flying into the wind. Which is an optimal approach for landing with winds. You can even see the snow blowing across the tarmac in front of the plane where the video is being recorded from, (look at the bottom of the screen), indicating they were flying into a headwind. Meaning for this plane, crosswinds were minimal. This screams pilot error all day long. But yup, well wait and see.
What I see was an improper glide slope, no flaring/pitch up, and too fast. In addition, if you look at the video, the smoke and fire are blowing back down the runway, meaning they were flying into the wind. Which is an optimal approach for landing with winds. You can even see the snow blowing across the tarmac in front of the plane where the video is being recorded from, (look at the bottom of the screen), indicating they were flying into a headwind. Meaning for this plane, crosswinds were minimal. This screams pilot error all day long. But yup, well wait and see.
BOP
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Where's the fun in that?
WingsOfGold
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Only one???? It was 69 when I knew the airman, no idea if he ventured off base.Indeed. Will be 40 years since I arrived there in June for a six month deployment. Downside, its a pretty barren Arctic island, and my Dad passed near the end of that deployment, I didn't make it home in time. Upside, I got to Anchorage, King Salmon, Fairbanks, Midway, and Hawaii. And as an ASW platform, it didn't get much better. We were constantly tracking Soviet subs, sometimes two at the same time. Got my first interceptions by loaded MIGs, saw polar bears on the icepack. Learned about the Air Force Red Line Of Death and the Great Alaskan Bush Company.Met gooney birds. And the flying set a pretty high standard. Approaches were usually challenging. For a 20 year old, it was a helluva first deployment. Oh, also got my first and only Captains Mast out of the way
glhs837
Power with Control
Here we are, doing a normal crosswind approach. Wind shear in gusty winds happens and the bottom drops out and you slam into the runway, collapse the gear, rip off a wing, roll over while sliding down the runway. This is very noisy. So after what would seem like either 2.2 seconds or 26 years the airplane grinds to a halt and you and the captain are hanging upside down from the seat belts. You look over at the other pilot and say “oops”— the silence must have been deafening. What immediate crew actions do you do? What checklist? Cut master power, oversee evacuations, update resume…..
In the words of Dan Bongino, "Hoooold... hoooold."
WingsOfGold
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I managed my life goal........ to be poorJust the one was enough.
Half month pay hurt!
BOP
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An inkling of what feminazis think the world would look like if women were in complete control.
Right before the whole thing collapsed, of course.
Cheap bastards
glhs837
Power with Control
Mine was not all that bad. 30 days restriction, 30 days extra duty. But heres' the kicker. Being aircrew, extra duty didnt apply on flight days, since those quite often lasted 14-16 hours. And on the third week, I was sent to do a det in Midway. Got there and spoke to the Det MO, LCDR O'Brian. His words- Well its a tiny island, so just don't drink and I'll consider you restricted. So I had the freedom to roam that gorgeous tropical paradise when not flying. I was bummed, not looking forward to going back to Adak when I got word that the next crew coming down, thieir Ord crewman had some issue, and they were going to keep me there to fly with the new crew coming down. Didnt have to twist my arm.
I was stationed with a guy that had just come from 1yr restricted duty at LORSTA Attu. He wasn't quite right.
