Denver a hellhole of drugs

[Hijinx]

Welcome to Denver — a ‘hellhole’ of drugs - Washington Examiner

DENVER — Friends and family arrived for a graduation in May at the University of Denver. We forgot to warn them.Once a cosmopolitan utopia of clean, safe, family-friendly neighborhoods and parks, Denver now looks and feels like a drug orgy. The stench of marijuana wafts through neighborhoods...

www.washingtonexaminer.com

With St. Mary's County approving Marijuana growing, and the state of Maryland trying to become a Capital of Marijuana growth by allowing 20 of these growing facilities and CBD stores abounding I thought this story to be pretty appropriate.

It mentions the stench of the product which the growers say they can cure with air filters the growing building is in a critical area next to Canoe Neck Creek, a former residential area with a 50,000 sq, ft. building built in a former soy bean field.

Soon to be lit up by security lights and the roar of 20 blowers filtering the stench.

Yes this was built with permits ,and no hearings, and the County Commissioners say they never knew it was coming.

Surprise surprise.

 

[vraiblonde]

Our government is now in the drug dealing business. They don't go after the cartels and traffickers because those are their business partners.

 

[Clem72]

Welcome to Denver — a ‘hellhole’ of drugs - Washington Examiner

DENVER — Friends and family arrived for a graduation in May at the University of Denver. We forgot to warn them.Once a cosmopolitan utopia of clean, safe, family-friendly neighborhoods and parks, Denver now looks and feels like a drug orgy. The stench of marijuana wafts through neighborhoods...

www.washingtonexaminer.com

With St. Mary's County approving Marijuana growing, and the state of Maryland trying to become a Capital of Marijuana growth by allowing 20 of these growing facilities and CBD stores abounding I thought this story to be pretty appropriate.

It mentions the stench of the product which the growers say they can cure with air filters the growing building is in a critical area next to Canoe Neck Creek, a former residential area with a 50,000 sq, ft. building built in a former soy bean field.

Soon to be lit up by security lights and the roar of 20 blowers filtering the stench.

Yes this was built with permits ,and no hearings, and the County Commissioners say they never knew it was coming.

Surprise surprise.

That op-ed makes a hell of a stretch that legalizing weed will suddenly turn everyone into drug addicts. Other than the smell, it's no worse than alcohol and cigarettes which were also not the downfall of society.

The issue isn't a "gateway drug", but the politics of Denver. They have been on this path for years and legalizing marijuana was the first step because others had done it decades before showing it was more or less benign. There are no such examples that decriminalizing other schedule 1/2 drugs is likewise benign. No one argues that heroin, cocaine, or fentanyl are safe or non-problematic.

 

[vraiblonde]

No one argues that heroin, cocaine, or fentanyl are safe or non-problematic.

There was a time not so long ago that no one argued that pot was safe or non-problematic.

others had done it decades before showing it was more or less benign.

This simply isn't true. Our overlords are legalizing drugs because A) they can make a ton of money off it; and B) they like us sedated. This is so crystal clear it stuns me that any living human would deny it.

I personally couldn't care less if people want to kill themselves with drugs. Go for it, good riddance. My problem is that these addicts want MY money to fund their addiction. And I don't want to pay for that. Not with my taxes, not by being robbed of my possessions so addicts can sell them, not with medication to save their worthless lives when they OD. I don't want to pay for them, period. Not a single penny. I don't even want to pay for their rehab because 99.99999% of the time it doesn't work, and I have to believe that's by design.

And somehow, according to Democrats, not wanting to pay for the addictions of strangers makes me a bad person.

 

[Clem72]

There was a time not so long ago that no one argued that pot was safe or non-problematic.

Not in my living memory, which is likely as long if not longer than yours.

People have been arguing that pot is as safe as other legal drugs for at least 60 years. Almost 20% of the population, 50 million people, use pot regularly (according to the 2020 NSDUH findings, probably more now with COVID and more legalization). If it were inherently unsafe we would have much bigger issues. For instance, fentanyl is the number one cause of death for people 18-45 but is used by far less than 1% of the population.

There has been legislation attempting to legalize pot since the 60s. It's been normalized/glorified in mainstream film and music since the 60s as well.

Where is the Cheech and Chong of crack? The Willy Nelson of smack? There are no mainstream efforts to normalize or pretend that these other drugs are safe (or safe-ish) for use.

 

[glhs837]

There was a time not so long ago that no one argued that pot was safe or non-problematic.

People have actually been arguing that for quite some time. I even wrote a paper on it in high school in 1980

There's been a national organization making the case since 1970.

NORML

Working to Reform Marijuana Laws Since 1970

norml.org

 

[vraiblonde]

I even wrote a paper on it in high school in 1980

Oh....well....that settles it, then.

 

[OccamsRazor]

There was a time not so long ago that no one argued that pot was safe or non-problematic.

Please define "not so long ago."

 

[glhs837]

Oh....well....that settles it, then.

So you will ignore the other part of my post?

 

[vraiblonde]

So you will ignore the other part of my post?

I suppose I could sit around all day and argue with you, but that seems like a pointless waste of time to me.

 

[glhs837]

I suppose I could sit around all day and argue with you, but that seems like a pointless waste of time to me.

But you did the first time and when I point out that you ignored the more relevant part of my post, your done debating? You said there was a time when people didnt make the case, I showed you people have been making that case for over 50 years.

 

[vraiblonde]

But you did the first time and when I point out that you ignored the more relevant part of my post, your done debating? You said there was a time when people didnt make the case, I showed you people have been making that case for over 50 years.

I recall quite clearly being warned against pot when I was a teen, "Why do you think they call it dope?" because "This is your brain on drugs", so "Just say no."

But if you didn't see those messages there's nothing to argue about. They may not have had TV where you grew up, I have no way of knowing.

 

[GURPS]

"This is your brain on drugs", so "Just say no."

they also said do not spend all day in front of the TV .... now look every urban kid has a computer, smart phone or tablet

 

[Clem72]

I recall quite clearly being warned against pot when I was a teen, "Why do you think they call it dope?" because "This is your brain on drugs", so "Just say no."

But if you didn't see those messages there's nothing to argue about. They may not have had TV where you grew up, I have no way of knowing.

See, this isn't a contradiction. You said not so long ago "NO ONE" was arguing that it was safe or non-problematic. Obviously some people were, and some people were not (the ones telling you this is your brain on drugs and calling it dope).

 

[Clem72]

they also said do not spend all day in front of the TV .... now look every urban kid has a computer, smart phone or tablet

Yeah, but we had an ozone back then and the air was safe to breathe. Now if your kid plays outside they will get skin cancer and asthma and will be kidnapped by people in white panel vans.

 

[vraiblonde]

See, this isn't a contradiction. You said not so long ago "NO ONE" was arguing that it was safe or non-problematic. Obviously some people were, and some people were not (the ones telling you this is your brain on drugs and calling it dope).

You're right. When I said "no one" I was using it colloquially, not literally no one, as in not one single person ever.

My bad.

Now you've "won" the argument - yay you!

 

[vraiblonde]

they also said do not spend all day in front of the TV .... now look every urban kid has a computer, smart phone or tablet

Not sure what that has to do with this discussion, but here's your participation trophy....

 

[GURPS]

things we were told in youth ...

 

[HemiHauler]

Imagine a conservative rag of a news outlet ragging on liberalization of drug laws.

Don't like drugs? Don't do drugs.

Easy.

 

[itsbob]

That op-ed makes a hell of a stretch that legalizing weed will suddenly turn everyone into drug addicts. Other than the smell, it's no worse than alcohol and cigarettes which were also not the downfall of society.

The issue isn't a "gateway drug", but the politics of Denver. They have been on this path for years and legalizing marijuana was the first step because others had done it decades before showing it was more or less benign. There are no such examples that decriminalizing other schedule 1/2 drugs is likewise benign. No one argues that heroin, cocaine, or fentanyl are safe or non-problematic.

Its not that its a gateway drug, its that it's legal.. so now the cool kids all have to find something else to smoke or snort or they lose all their street cred..

Can't be cool doing LEGAL stuff.. to impress your peers, and the women (even the ones that think they are men) you have to do the ILLEGAL stuff. Can't be cigarettes.. can't be Pot.. what's next?