Dept of Veteran Affairs

Clem72

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Do you have a link to that story?

First one on my Google search, but they probably all say the same thing. Was supposed to be "1000 probationary employees", but there are a lot of people on social media saying they were let go and were only "probationary" because they had recently been promoted or converted from other pay systems. Many of the self-reports are disabled veterans (makes sense, VA hires a lot of vets).

Expect to see updated reports in the coming days with clarifying information. In a RIF the Disabled Vets are the last ones let go, but the current rounds of firings aren't RIFs but rather firing of probies because they have far fewer protections.
 

LightRoasted

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For your consideration ...



The new Charlotte Hall Community Based Outpatient Clinic (CBOC) is awesome. The old one was awesome as well. Going to the Washington DC VA Medical Center, aka, the DC VA hospital, can be, ah, let's say, it can be challenging.
 

Gilligan

#*! boat!
PREMO Member
My experience with VA hospitals might not be relevant but...
My grandfather was admitted to the nearest VA hospital to where he lived, in Homestead, FL. with acute hepatitis and associated damage. I got a call that I needed to come right away because he wouldn't pull through...they said.

I arrived to find him neglected..lying in his filth...nobody in attendance. My grandmother couldn't find any place to stay nearby...and she couldn't drive more than a few minutes in any direction from their home that was over an hour drive distant.

I went the fawk off on the commanding officer of the Homestead VA hospital. Barged in to his office and lit him right up. "You have a decorated Admiral lying in his own filth and won't provide his wife a room nearby??? WTF man?"

BAM. Granddaddy had a new room, plenty of attention, and grandma had a small guest room to stay in only a couple hundred feet from the hospital wing where Granddad was. I'd give him a shave every day...he was real particular about his shaves and only trusted me to use the straight razor that he preferred. If you read the book about his WWII service (Torpedo Junction...by Homer Hickham), one of the crew's observations was on point: "Skipper was always on the bridge every time I was...and yet was always clean shaven!"

He recovered and lived for another decade...even bought another sailboat and retired the winner's trophy for his local yacht club in Lighthouse Point.

Moral of the story: It should NEVER take the kind of intervention and energy I had to expend for any/all vets to get good care.
 

PeoplesElbow

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My understanding is that they're already understaffed.

But DOGE isn't about firing government workers. It's about cutting obsolete or ineffective programs/agencies. The Democrats are flooding the universe with hysteria and bullshit, which is where you all are getting your wacky ideas.

So should the VA be audited? Well....yeah.
Every agency should be audited, but that takes time, usually a lot of time, almost certainly too much time to be politically expedient.

A big part of the base thinks nobody should work for the government, so yea DOGE is also about getting rid of government workers, remember a while back when the idea was floated to just randomly get rid of a certain percentage?

As a natural cynic I will say yes people will be fired, next administration comes in they will mostly be rehired and possibly with back pay.
 

SamSpade

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PREMO Member
My understanding is that they're already understaffed.

But DOGE isn't about firing government workers. It's about cutting obsolete or ineffective
That’s the stated objective. I would THINK the idea would be to review the work of employees and cut the slackers, the ones hanging out in the cafeteria, the ones chatting with their friends. The ones who are given assignments that should take a couple weeks and after several months - were never started.

I’ve seen this.

This is not how they intend to trim the deadwood.
 

my-thyme

..if momma ain't happy...
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My experience with VA hospitals might not be relevant but...
My grandfather was admitted to the nearest VA hospital to where he lived, in Homestead, FL. with acute hepatitis and associated damage. I got a call that I needed to come right away because he wouldn't pull through...they said.

I arrived to find him neglected..lying in his filth...nobody in attendance. My grandmother couldn't find any place to stay nearby...and she couldn't drive more than a few minutes in any direction from their home that was over an hour drive distant.

I went the fawk off on the commanding officer of the Homestead VA hospital. Barged in to his office and lit him right up. "You have a decorated Admiral lying in his own filth and won't provide his wife a room nearby??? WTF man?"

BAM. Granddaddy had a new room, plenty of attention, and grandma had a small guest room to stay in only a couple hundred feet from the hospital wing where Granddad was. I'd give him a shave every day...he was real particular about his shaves and only trusted me to use the straight razor that he preferred. If you read the book about his WWII service (Torpedo Junction...by Homer Hickham), one of the crew's observations was on point: "Skipper was always on the bridge every time I was...and yet was always clean shaven!"

He recovered and lived for another decade...even bought another sailboat and retired the winner's trophy for his local yacht club in Lighthouse Point.

Moral of the story: It should NEVER take the kind of intervention and energy I had to expend for any/all vets to get good care.
Sorry you and he had to go thru that, glad he got better and had 10 more good year.
 

LightRoasted

If I may ...
For your consideration ...


My experience with VA hospitals might not be relevant but...
My grandfather was admitted to the nearest VA hospital to where he lived, in Homestead, FL. with acute hepatitis and associated damage. I got a call that I needed to come right away because he wouldn't pull through...they said.

I arrived to find him neglected..lying in his filth...nobody in attendance. My grandmother couldn't find any place to stay nearby...and she couldn't drive more than a few minutes in any direction from their home that was over an hour drive distant.

I went the fawk off on the commanding officer of the Homestead VA hospital. Barged in to his office and lit him right up. "You have a decorated Admiral lying in his own filth and won't provide his wife a room nearby??? WTF man?"

BAM. Granddaddy had a new room, plenty of attention, and grandma had a small guest room to stay in only a couple hundred feet from the hospital wing where Granddad was. I'd give him a shave every day...he was real particular about his shaves and only trusted me to use the straight razor that he preferred. If you read the book about his WWII service (Torpedo Junction...by Homer Hickham), one of the crew's observations was on point: "Skipper was always on the bridge every time I was...and yet was always clean shaven!"

He recovered and lived for another decade...even bought another sailboat and retired the winner's trophy for his local yacht club in Lighthouse Point.

Moral of the story: It should NEVER take the kind of intervention and energy I had to expend for any/all vets to get good care.


A very unfortunate experience. Kudos for defending his honor, dignity, and service. I would think this was because of the day, the time period. Today, mostly, those kind of stories, in my opinion and experience, are few and far between. The majority of the time care is quite adequate, with caring and attentive staff. That's not to say there can be some challenges at times though. In addition, a veteran can receive health care through the private market, and at hospitals, with the doctors, or hospitals, receiving payment from the VA. Which does reduce the burden on the VA medical system. Prior to the allowing veterans to use the private health care system, VA facilities would be over burdened on a daily basis, as it was the only available place for veterans to go to, to get their healthcare needs met. At times, in the past, downtown, and at the CBOC, some waiting room areas were standing room only. Much of what can constituent bad care today, can depend on the perspective of the veteran themselves. Food for thought.
 
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