Dixie Chics who?

Larry Gude

Strung Out
And there it is...

hwyman3 said:
I fully agree that the Dixie Chicks have their freedom of speech (even thought they wouldn't exercise it in America). But don't those who disagree with them also enjoy the freedom of speech? Do we not have the right to publicly disagree with them? No one is saying they have no right to disagree with the President. but do we then also have the right to no longer buy their CDs if we disagree with them?


...the Chix and their supporters position is that Natalie has this right to say what she wants...and no one has the right to disagree with her, say mean things about her or even point out the flat out cowardice of exercising her US Constitutionally protected right to free speech...on foreign soil.

Playing the role of victim.
 

sinwagon

New Member
Larry Gude said:
...the Chix and their supporters position is that Natalie has this right to say what she wants...and no one has the right to disagree with her, say mean things about her or even point out the flat out cowardice of exercising her US Constitutionally protected right to free speech...on foreign soil.

Playing the role of victim.

Thats not my position, I am simply saying I won't stop listening to their music because of what she said. But anyone else who choses to do so, has that right and I don't have anything against that.
 

Larry Gude

Strung Out
That's great...

sinwagon said:
Thats not my position, I am simply saying I won't stop listening to their music because of what she said. But anyone else who choses to do so, has that right and I don't have anything against that.

...that's as it should be. But I do think it's pretty clear that she and her apologists hadn't thought about anyone elses free speech...except hers.
 
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Bruzilla

Guest
Just another case of :bs: from Liberals. Remember when the fallout from "The Incident" started, and all the press was reporting how country music fans were continuing to embrace the Dixie Chicks and how grateful they were for all the wonderul support they were getting? Seems like that was a load of :bs: and that they in fact lost most of their fan base. Now they're switching over to a new format, playing - go figure - 70's type songs. Sounds like they're betting the farm on trying to appeal to all the 70's anti-war hangerons to support them now that they've lost their country base and they're not quite hip-hop/Urban types.

So who's going to take their music seriously now? I would bet that unless the Libs with the $$$$ pay to keep the album on life support, we've about heard the last of these twits.

As for freedom of speech, and liking them or not liking them, their position on the war and their politics is their personnal business. They have the same right to vote as I do, they have the same right to complain to their elected representatives, or to run for office, as I do. But once they start pronouncing their views as a part of their product they are linking that product to a political view and that's what cost them. I can choose to listen to them or not based on if I like CW, but when they add the anti-war tag the way they do, that adds a new dimension... that was added by them, not me.
 

Pete

Repete
Larry Gude said:
...the Chix and their supporters position is that Natalie has this right to say what she wants...and no one has the right to disagree with her, say mean things about her or even point out the flat out cowardice of exercising her US Constitutionally protected right to free speech...on foreign soil.

Playing the role of victim.


Perfect example of the rush to victimhood is this cover showing them metaphorically stripped naked and branded. Poor babies.

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THEY exercised THEIR free speech, yet when people exercised theirs back about what they said they are "victims". People called us "traitors" and "Saddams Angels" :bawl: Telling us to "shut up" :bawl: You people have no right to be angry at us or boycott our Cd's:bawl:
 
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The latest...Natalie takes back her apology.

Their newest single is called "Not Ready to Make Nice" :rolleyes:

http://music.msn.com/music/article.aspx?news=223767&GT1=7702


This part made me laugh:
"For band member Martie Maguire, the controversy was a blessing in disguise.

"I'd rather have a small following of really cool people who get it, who will grow with us as we grow and are fans for life, than people that have us in their five-disc changer with Reba McEntire and Toby Keith," Maguire said. "We don't want those kinds of fans. They limit what you can do.""
 

Angel

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Bustem' Down said:
I find it silly and support her. Freedom of speech is exactly that, not if this and except when that.
I loved the Dixie Chicks who kept their own Political Views to themselves. Joe Schmoe down the street, and his opions are his, and affects no body else's opinion. BUT, when you are in the Public Eye, such as the Dixie Chicks, you are likely to affect somebody's views of the world. Especially younger people who really only respect your views because you've had the same heart break as them. The Dixie Chicks make great music, but they need to STFU when it comes to their own political views.
 
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Bustem' Down

Give Peas a Chance
Angel said:
I loved the Dixie Chics who kept thier own Political Views to themselves. Joe Schmoe down the street, and his opions are his, and affects no body elses opinion. BUT, when you are in the Public Eye, such as the Dixie Chics, you are likely to affect somebodies views of the world. Especially younger people who really only respect your views because you've had the same heart break as them. The Dixie Chics make great music, but they need to STFU when it comes to their own politicle views.
What's wrong with affecting someone's views? That's why we have political debates, townhall meetings, religious services, schools, and this forum. You spend every day trying to convince someone that your idea is better than thier idea. That's how life is, and if you are so easily swayed that a celebrity can change your entire view on a subject then that's pathetic and no one's problem but your own.
 

Angel

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Bustem' Down said:
What's wrong with affecting someone's views? That's why we have political debates, townhall meetings, religious services, schools, and this forum. You spend every day trying to convince someone that your idea is better than thier idea. That's how life is, and if you are so easily swayed that a celebrity can change your entire view on a subject then that's pathetic and no one's problem but your own.
Who are the young and impressionable most likely to listen to? The celebrities that they adore or the Politician they have never heard of? I am not swayed by a celebrities views, BUT there are many young and just turned 18 who are. Why do they have the whole Rock The Vote on the Music Channels? Obviously the celebrities play some role in the young impressionable mind.
 

Angel

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OH, and I'd rather they voted because they listened to or watched the polical debate between the politicians and made thier own decisions, rather then go with what the Dixie Chicks said they should do.
 

CMC122

Go Braves!
I really like the sound of the new song, but the message of shiatty attitude that they still have turned me off. Also seeing them trying to make a following by bashing country legends and stereo typing country listeners is desperate and childish.

I'll stick to Toby Keith's White Trash with Money:yay:
 

Bustem' Down

Give Peas a Chance
Angel said:
Who are the young and impressionable most likely to listen to? The celebrities that they adore or the Politician they have never heard of? I am not swayed by a celebrities views, BUT there are many young and just turned 18 who are. Why do they have the whole Rock The Vote on the Music Channels? Obviously the celebrities play some role in the young impressionable mind.
You only feel this way because their opinion is contradictory to yours. young people are that young and dumb. I was, and admit it. But the thought that celebrities opinions are going to bring down society is retarted. If they were praising Bush and yee haa everything else you believe, you'd stand up and shout preach on brother! You only want to censor what you don't like.
 

Mikeinsmd

New Member
They didn't try to sway someones views. The c*nts went to another country and badmouthed the president of the United States.

Their succeeding music sales demonstrated how the majority of this country felt about "their views". :patriot:
 

Bustem' Down

Give Peas a Chance
Mikeinsmd said:
They didn't try to sway someones views. The c*nts went to another country and badmouthed the president of the United States.

Their succeeding music sales demonstrated how the majority of this country felt about "their views". :patriot:
And you can hate them for that. Burn thier cd's in a bonfire and pay for 60 seconds of TV time to tell every why they are c*nts and how much you hate them. But I find it stupid to to censor someone because they are a celebrity.
 

MysticalMom

Witchy Woman
CMC122 said:
I really like the sound of the new song, but the message of shiatty attitude that they still have turned me off. Also seeing them trying to make a following by bashing country legends and stereo typing country listeners is desperate and childish.

I'll stick to Toby Keith's White Trash with Money:yay:

I love me some Toby. :biggrin:
 

Mikeinsmd

New Member
Bustem' Down said:
And you can hate them for that. Burn thier cd's in a bonfire and pay for 60 seconds of TV time to tell every why they are c*nts and how much you hate them. But I find it stupid to to censor someone because they are a celebrity.
No don't censor them, just don't buy their music. And when they're living in a van down by the river, they can biatch about how screwed up we are.
 
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