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MDTerps

Back in the saddle
My daughter is in 2nd grade and they are beginning to learn in after Christmas. It's a hot topic among teachers. Some think learning cursive is a waste of time while others think it is important.

They started it last year and didn't finish. I have a workbook at home for him that he does a page out of each night he is w/ me. So I'm teaching him more than his current teacher.
 

jenbengen

Watch it
What the heck is that?

It's a newer form of writing the alphabet. The letters have a slight angle to them and look a little like cursive. It is supposed to make shifting from print to cursive easier since it has the same characteristics.
 

Nickel

curiouser and curiouser
What the heck is that?
It's bull####, that's what it is. :lmao:

Some sort of print/cursive hybrid that they require the kids to learn now, rather than just the standard print. Supposedly this helps them learn cursive, which is dumb because we all managed to learn just fine. I hate it because (a) that's not how people write, and (b) that's not how words appear in print.
 

K_Jo

Pea Brain
PREMO Member
It's bull####, that's what it is. :lmao:

Some sort of print/cursive hybrid that they require the kids to learn now, rather than just the standard print. Supposedly this helps them learn cursive, which is dumb because we all managed to learn just fine. I hate it because (a) that's not how people write, and (b) that's not how words appear in print.

I had to google it. I write with a mixture of print and cursive, but it doesn't look like that. :lol:
 

bohman

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WTF? I could write in cursive by 2nd grade.

:yeahthat: I fall into the group of people that thinks it's a shame that today's kids can't write anything that doesn't look like a text message. And if spell check doesn't catch it, they simply think that it's correct.

Typing that message made me feel old, but I don't care. I'm going to raise hell at school if I find out that they aren't teaching basic skills like cursive writing, and the ability to write a coherent letter.
 

theArtistFormerlyKnownAs

Well-Known Member
:yeahthat: I fall into the group of people that thinks it's a shame that today's kids can't write anything that doesn't look like a text message. And if spell check doesn't catch it, they simply think that it's correct.

Typing that message made me feel old, but I don't care. I'm going to raise hell at school if I find out that they aren't teaching basic skills like cursive writing, and the ability to write a coherent letter.

dear god. you just made me really fear the time whenever i have kids in school and have to deal with them not being taught simple things like cursive...well, i guess i'll have to try my damndest to teach them whatever the school system refuses too (if i feel it is pertinent to their future life in some way lol)
 

LusbyMom

You're a LOON :)
They should be able to read and write in cursive.

One thing I'm suprised about so far with my son's class this year is they are not learning cursive. Hopefully by the end of the year he will be using it.

My kids started learning at the very end of 2nd grade and they didn't learn much. In third they start working on it from the beginning of the school year
 
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LusbyMom

You're a LOON :)
Yes, if I had to learn it then so does he. :lol: And on a somewhat related note, am I the only person that hates Denelian? I just want to punch whoever came up with that crap. :ohwell:

I like it and it seems to make the transition into cursive easier. It was difficult for one of my kiddos to learn when we moved here.
 

Dymphna

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D'nelian is stupid. They need to learn the manuscript letters because that's what they will mostly see in print. Of the 3 counties, only St. Mary's uses manuscript. I sometimes think the other counties do D'nelian just to foil parents who try to get a head start on their children's education. Most parents never heard of D'nelian before their kids go to school and if they try to teach their children anything, it has to be all untaught when they get to school...my cousin moved from St. M's to Calvert after 1st grade....she went from gifted classes to remedial classes and was scolded for not being able to write properly. :rolleyes:

My oldest started learning cursive at the end of 2nd grade. But since they didn't take the time to teach him how to write any of his letters properly, he can't write worth #### and had to have special permission to do his spelling tests (now in 4th grade) in print because you couldn't tell if he spelled things right or not, even though everything he does is supposed to be in cursive. And no teacher has ever taken the time to teach him correctly.

I'm going to have to teach him myself but I have no idea how, so I sent away for a catalog of educational materials from the company the school system "supposedly" uses. $300 for a complete set of materials for either manuscript or cursive. $90 just for the instruction manual for one or the other. So, at minimum, $180 to teach my kids something they should already have been taught. AND that's assuming I can convince the company that I'm a teacher, not just a parent, because there is a "teacher discount" built into that price.

THEN I have to find the time, because the boy takes 3 hours to do homework he's supposed to be able to do in an hour...the main reason being because he can't write. :banghead:
 

greyhound

New Member
There is a difference between the a font that is used to write and the thousands of fonts that are used in print. Children are taught to recognize the difference. The lower case "g" for example most often looks like this in printed text "g".

This page shows why D'Nealian is easier for children to learn. It also creates a much smoother transition to cursive.

D'Nealian Handwriting
 

Dymphna

Loyalty, Friendship, Love
There is a difference between the a font that is used to write and the thousands of fonts that are used in print. Children are taught to recognize the difference. The lower case "g" for example most often looks like this in printed text "g".

This page shows why D'Nealian is easier for children to learn. It also creates a much smoother transition to cursive.

D'Nealian Handwriting
I know the arguments, I just don't buy it. I know the kids are taught different fonts. In fact, they were taught that better than they were taught to properly write for themselves, in any style.

The fact is, people need to be able to write and other people need to be able to read it. My kids can't write legible in any form. The younger one was doing ok, but is getting sloppier because no one reinforces it. It's all well and good to invent some new style of writing, but you may as well go ahead and teach them cursive to begin with. AND if no one teaches them any of it correctly, it falls to the parents to teach it...this after the parents of preschoolers already tried to teach them manuscript, only to be told when the kids went to school, that it was all wrong.

They wouldn't have to worry about teaching them some pseudo-cursive, if they'd just teach them correctly in the first place. And I'm sorry, computers aren't a replacement for being able to properly write.

Imagine, "my printer is out of ink, so I couldn't make my grocery list." "Sorry boss, I couldn't take notes in that meeting, my computer has a virus." "Sorry professor, I can't take that test today, the battery ran down on my laptop." OR "Sorry, I had to buy groceries for the next 6 months, I can't buy a computer for each child's personal use, just so they can do their homework."
 

Cowgirl

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I'm going to have to teach him myself but I have no idea how, so I sent away for a catalog of educational materials from the company the school system "supposedly" uses. $300 for a complete set of materials for either manuscript or cursive. $90 just for the instruction manual for one or the other. So, at minimum, $180 to teach my kids something they should already have been taught. AND that's assuming I can convince the company that I'm a teacher, not just a parent, because there is a "teacher discount" built into that price.


:confused: Why did you have to buy all that? Can't you just make practice sheets? Just make dotted letters and have him copy them...then have him practice. :shrug: I'm sure there are practice pages you can find online.

I'm not trying to be an ass, but it just seems excessive.


ETA: Here's a site....mostly D'nealian.

Here's another site: It has blank practice pages, practice pages with combinations of letters (like ch, th, etc.), lower case, upper case, etc. It has both cursive and manuscript.

Here's another one that looks really good. It has dot trace, dash trace, and hollow trace practice sheets....and manuscript, D'nealian, and cursive fonts.
 
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