"Doctor" Jill

vraiblonde

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I just learned that she's not really a doctor, a least not a medical doctor as I had been led to believe. They keep calling her "Dr. Jill" and referencing health care when doing it.

Turns out her doctorate is in educational leadership, not medicine. She majored in English in college, not medicine.

Am I the only dummy who didn't know this? The way they keep calling her "Dr. Jill" and acting like she's some medical expert made me think she was an actual doctor. In fact, the only thing it makes her qualified for is to teach at a university. She's not even qualified to bandage your hangnail.


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Bluecrqbe

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I just learned that she's not really a doctor, a least not a medical doctor as I had been led to believe. They keep calling her "Dr. Jill" and referencing health care when doing it.

Turns out her doctorate is in educational leadership, not medicine. She majored in English in college, not medicine.

Am I the only dummy who didn't know this? The way they keep calling her "Dr. Jill" and acting like she's some medical expert made me think she was an actual doctor. In fact, the only thing it makes her qualified for is to teach at a university. She's not even qualified to bandage your hangnail.


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It seems to be an error fairly intelligent people make, she should just have PhD at the end of her name instead. It’s weird to have the crossover of titles.

 

Tech

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It seems to be an error fairly intelligent people make, she should just have PhD at the end of her name instead. It’s weird to have the crossover of titles.

I'm confused, did you call Vrai Whoopi or Whoopi intelligent?
 

vraiblonde

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It seems to be an error fairly intelligent people make, she should just have PhD at the end of her name instead. It’s weird to have the crossover of titles.


I've seen other social media posts (from various entertainers, journos, and politicians) that indicated she should be on the Coronavirus task force and revamping our healthcare, etc. Honestly, I never paid a lot of attention her because....why would I...so I just presumed she was a medical doctor.
 
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herb749

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That's not as bad as her being paid almost 100K to teach at a Community College in FL & Joe getting $775K from Penn.
 

LightRoasted

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I just learned that she's not really a doctor, a least not a medical doctor as I had been led to believe. They keep calling her "Dr. Jill" and referencing health care when doing it.

Turns out her doctorate is in educational leadership, not medicine. She majored in English in college, not medicine.

Am I the only dummy who didn't know this? The way they keep calling her "Dr. Jill" and acting like she's some medical expert made me think she was an actual doctor. In fact, the only thing it makes her qualified for is to teach at a university. She's not even qualified to bandage your hangnail.


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Kinda like Bill Nye the Science Guy, wasn't/isn't even a scientist.
 

UglyBear

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Kinda like Bill Nye the Science Guy, wasn't/isn't even a scientist.
Define “scientist”. If that includes only “pure” non-applied disciplines formerly called “natural philosophy” (physics, chemistry, biology), yep, he’s just a lowly engineer.
But “the science guy” is not the same as “scientist”. So technically he’s not lying.

(I hate the douche for his Global Warming histeria, but felt that I needed to defend fellow engineer’s honor :mad:)
 

BOP

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I just learned that she's not really a doctor, a least not a medical doctor as I had been led to believe. They keep calling her "Dr. Jill" and referencing health care when doing it.

Turns out her doctorate is in educational leadership, not medicine. She majored in English in college, not medicine.

Am I the only dummy who didn't know this? The way they keep calling her "Dr. Jill" and acting like she's some medical expert made me think she was an actual doctor. In fact, the only thing it makes her qualified for is to teach at a university. She's not even qualified to bandage your hangnail.


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I didn't know. PhDs should not be allowed to call themselves doctors.
 

Bann

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I didn't know. PhDs should not be allowed to call themselves doctors.
It's a Doctorate degree in Philosophy - earned and awarded for academic courses.

They still earned a doctorate degree - just not not in medicine.
 

PeoplesElbow

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It's a Doctorate degree in Philosophy - earned and awarded for academic courses.

They still earned a doctorate degree - just not not in medicine.
I don't know about something like education but for a scientific or engineering field it also includes a significant amount of original research leading to a dissertation.

I know a RN that has a PhD in nursing and she goes by nurse in the hospital to avoid confusion.
 

Bann

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I don't know about something like education but for a scientific or engineering field it also includes a significant amount of original research leading to a dissertation.

I know a RN that has a PhD in nursing and she goes by nurse in the hospital to avoid confusion.
Yes, I'm pretty sure there is a lot of research involved in the other fields, as well.
 

mitzi

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It seems to be an error fairly intelligent people make, she should just have PhD at the end of her name instead. It’s weird to have the crossover of titles.


I saw that when it aired. Whoopie's raving about Jill and what a great doctor she is. She should have known. Sonny corrected her, which surprised me.
 

LightRoasted

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Define “scientist”. If that includes only “pure” non-applied disciplines formerly called “natural philosophy” (physics, chemistry, biology), yep, he’s just a lowly engineer.
But “the science guy” is not the same as “scientist”. So technically he’s not lying.

(I hate the douche for his Global Warming histeria, but felt that I needed to defend fellow engineer’s honor :mad:)
Whoa there, slow yer roll. No disrespect to engineers, mechanical or otherwise. He has a degree as a mechanical engineer. But on his shows he was not doing things associated with mechanical engineering. He was pretending to be a scientist, lab coat and all. I don't recall him having shows showing the differences between an internal combustion engine and a gas turbine, and the amount of torque each type could generate given each their respective capabilities. Or the differences in capacity of an elevator versus an escalator. Or describing, and demonstrating, the theory of mechanics which is: "Mechanics is the study of motion of matter and the forces that cause such motion. It is applied to the analysis of any dynamical system ranging from atoms to solar systems. The analysis of stress, deformation and stability of thin-walled tubes is a classical subject of physics and engineering."

I used to enjoy watching it myself. At the time I thought he was a scientist, though a nerdy one. But no. Instead he pretended to be a scientist showing and performing certain experiments. He never accomplished the work typically required to be considered a “scientist”. That is not to say what he did on his show was not without merit. Indeed it was, and the show was popular, and most likely inspired many young minds to enter scientific fields. But he held himself out to be a scientist on the show, not a mechanical engineer.
 

UglyBear

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Whoa there, slow yer roll. No disrespect to engineers, mechanical or otherwise. He has a degree as a mechanical engineer. But on his shows he was not doing things associated with mechanical engineering. He was pretending to be a scientist, lab coat and all. I don't recall him having shows showing the differences between an internal combustion engine and a gas turbine, and the amount of torque each type could generate given each their respective capabilities. Or the differences in capacity of an elevator versus an escalator. Or describing, and demonstrating, the theory of mechanics which is: "Mechanics is the study of motion of matter and the forces that cause such motion. It is applied to the analysis of any dynamical system ranging from atoms to solar systems. The analysis of stress, deformation and stability of thin-walled tubes is a classical subject of physics and engineering."

I used to enjoy watching it myself. At the time I thought he was a scientist, though a nerdy one. But no. Instead he pretended to be a scientist showing and performing certain experiments. He never accomplished the work typically required to be considered a “scientist”. That is not to say what he did on his show was not without merit. Indeed it was, and the show was popular, and most likely inspired many young minds to enter scientific fields. But he held himself out to be a scientist on the show, not a mechanical engineer.
Roll slowed, overreaction by myself admitted. You make a good well argued point.
 

rmorse

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Whoa there, slow yer roll. No disrespect to engineers, mechanical or otherwise. He has a degree as a mechanical engineer. But on his shows he was not doing things associated with mechanical engineering. He was pretending to be a scientist, lab coat and all. I don't recall him having shows showing the differences between an internal combustion engine and a gas turbine, and the amount of torque each type could generate given each their respective capabilities. Or the differences in capacity of an elevator versus an escalator. Or describing, and demonstrating, the theory of mechanics which is: "Mechanics is the study of motion of matter and the forces that cause such motion. It is applied to the analysis of any dynamical system ranging from atoms to solar systems. The analysis of stress, deformation and stability of thin-walled tubes is a classical subject of physics and engineering."

I used to enjoy watching it myself. At the time I thought he was a scientist, though a nerdy one. But no. Instead he pretended to be a scientist showing and performing certain experiments. He never accomplished the work typically required to be considered a “scientist”. That is not to say what he did on his show was not without merit. Indeed it was, and the show was popular, and most likely inspired many young minds to enter scientific fields. But he held himself out to be a scientist on the show, not a mechanical engineer.

Roll slowed, overreaction by myself admitted. You make a good well argued point.

Wait, that's not how this is supposed to happen. I thought when you disagreed with someone, you're supposed to attack their character and neither side should give an inch....
 
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