"Doctor" Jill

PeoplesElbow

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Whoa there, slow yer roll. No disrespect to engineers, mechanical or otherwise. He has a degree as a mechanical engineer. But on his shows he was not doing things associated with mechanical engineering. He was pretending to be a scientist, lab coat and all. I don't recall him having shows showing the differences between an internal combustion engine and a gas turbine, and the amount of torque each type could generate given each their respective capabilities. Or the differences in capacity of an elevator versus an escalator. Or describing, and demonstrating, the theory of mechanics which is: "Mechanics is the study of motion of matter and the forces that cause such motion. It is applied to the analysis of any dynamical system ranging from atoms to solar systems. The analysis of stress, deformation and stability of thin-walled tubes is a classical subject of physics and engineering."

I used to enjoy watching it myself. At the time I thought he was a scientist, though a nerdy one. But no. Instead he pretended to be a scientist showing and performing certain experiments. He never accomplished the work typically required to be considered a “scientist”. That is not to say what he did on his show was not without merit. Indeed it was, and the show was popular, and most likely inspired many young minds to enter scientific fields. But he held himself out to be a scientist on the show, not a mechanical engineer.
There is a very fuzzy line between engineers and scientists, they take many of the same classes. My best friend has a degree in chemical engineering and became a principal biochemist for some very large pharmaceuticals.

I was able to minor in physics while becoming a mechanical engineer. I believe I could fill in as a classical physicist.

A few of my engineering professors had degrees in chemistry and physics.

How come nobody is bitching about Mr Wizzard not being an actual wizzard?
 

LightRoasted

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There is a very fuzzy line between engineers and scientists, they take many of the same classes. My best friend has a degree in chemical engineering and became a principal biochemist for some very large pharmaceuticals.

I was able to minor in physics while becoming a mechanical engineer. I believe I could fill in as a classical physicist.

A few of my engineering professors had degrees in chemistry and physics.

How come nobody is bitching about Mr Wizzard not being an actual wizzard?
Now in this instance, I would consider your friend a scientist. I don't know. I reckon maybe it's because chemists, biochemists, work in lab coats, and that makes them "scientists"? Maybe it's because of watching too many Frankenstein, and Jerry Lewis in the Nutty Professor, type movies growing up?
 

Clem72

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I didn't know. PhDs should not be allowed to call themselves doctors.

Doctor has a latin root (doc), meaning teach and denotes a teacher. It was used to describe a learned person for millennia before medical doctors existed. So perhaps MDs are the ones that shouldn't have appropriated the name?
 
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Clem72

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Whoa there, slow yer roll. No disrespect to engineers, mechanical or otherwise. He has a degree as a mechanical engineer. But on his shows he was not doing things associated with mechanical engineering. He was pretending to be a scientist, lab coat and all. I don't recall him having shows showing the differences between an internal combustion engine and a gas turbine, and the amount of torque each type could generate given each their respective capabilities. Or the differences in capacity of an elevator versus an escalator. Or describing, and demonstrating, the theory of mechanics which is: "Mechanics is the study of motion of matter and the forces that cause such motion. It is applied to the analysis of any dynamical system ranging from atoms to solar systems. The analysis of stress, deformation and stability of thin-walled tubes is a classical subject of physics and engineering."

I used to enjoy watching it myself. At the time I thought he was a scientist, though a nerdy one. But no. Instead he pretended to be a scientist showing and performing certain experiments. He never accomplished the work typically required to be considered a “scientist”. That is not to say what he did on his show was not without merit. Indeed it was, and the show was popular, and most likely inspired many young minds to enter scientific fields. But he held himself out to be a scientist on the show, not a mechanical engineer.

Bill Nye is just a low-rent knock off of Don Herbert (Mr. Wizard).
 

PeoplesElbow

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Now in this instance, I would consider your friend a scientist. I don't know. I reckon maybe it's because chemists, biochemists, work in lab coats, and that makes them "scientists"? Maybe it's because of watching too many Frankenstein, and Jerry Lewis in the Nutty Professor, type movies growing up?
Actually he works in an office and wears a tie. I know some engineers that wear labcoats. I wear jeans and a hoodie in the winter because I get dirty and work in the cold, in summer I wear a TShirt and carry a collared shirt for when I go back into the office.
 

Hijinx

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Joe is President today because this woman wants to be the center of attention.
She should have kept him in the basement, but no. SHE wanted to be first lady.
 

BOP

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There is a very fuzzy line between engineers and scientists, they take many of the same classes. My best friend has a degree in chemical engineering and became a principal biochemist for some very large pharmaceuticals.

I was able to minor in physics while becoming a mechanical engineer. I believe I could fill in as a classical physicist.

A few of my engineering professors had degrees in chemistry and physics.

How come nobody is bitching about Mr Wizzard not being an actual wizzard?
Impressive, but are you a biologist?
 

BOP

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Now in this instance, I would consider your friend a scientist. I don't know. I reckon maybe it's because chemists, biochemists, work in lab coats, and that makes them "scientists"? Maybe it's because of watching too many Frankenstein, and Jerry Lewis in the Nutty Professor, type movies growing up?
I thought taking government funding and regurgitation of desired results meant you're a scientist.
 

itsbob

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Whoa there, slow yer roll. No disrespect to engineers, mechanical or otherwise. He has a degree as a mechanical engineer. But on his shows he was not doing things associated with mechanical engineering. He was pretending to be a scientist, lab coat and all. I don't recall him having shows showing the differences between an internal combustion engine and a gas turbine, and the amount of torque each type could generate given each their respective capabilities. Or the differences in capacity of an elevator versus an escalator. Or describing, and demonstrating, the theory of mechanics which is: "Mechanics is the study of motion of matter and the forces that cause such motion. It is applied to the analysis of any dynamical system ranging from atoms to solar systems. The analysis of stress, deformation and stability of thin-walled tubes is a classical subject of physics and engineering."

I used to enjoy watching it myself. At the time I thought he was a scientist, though a nerdy one. But no. Instead he pretended to be a scientist showing and performing certain experiments. He never accomplished the work typically required to be considered a “scientist”. That is not to say what he did on his show was not without merit. Indeed it was, and the show was popular, and most likely inspired many young minds to enter scientific fields. But he held himself out to be a scientist on the show, not a mechanical engineer.
Hey now.. I'm a scientist.. I should be in charge of the EPA and all of the new laws concerning Climate Change..

Granted, I'm a Computer Scientist...yet, still.. a scientist.

Oh, and a Dr too!!
 

Bann

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She did not "earn" her degree. It was given to her from the university of Delaware. Her husband was a senator representing that state at the time!
According to Wiki, and it's sources - she did earn it.
Biden later returned to school for her doctoral degree, studying under her birth name, Jill Jacobs.[36] In January 2007, at age 55, she received a Doctor of Education (Ed.D.) in educational leadership from the University of Delaware under the direction of professor Barbara Curry.[2][44][45][46] Her dissertation, Student Retention at the Community College: Meeting Students' Needs, was published under the name Jill Jacobs-Biden.[45]

 
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