DOD Takes The Stacy Abrams Approach

[GURPS]

Department Of Defense Says Military Enlistment Wouldn’t Be So Low If Women Could Just Kill More Babies​

The Department of Defense seems to be using the Supreme Court’s overruling of Roe v. Wade as an excuse to promote the Biden administration’s abortion agenda.

Secretary of Defense Lloyd Austin’s Oct. 20, 2022, memorandum, “Ensuring Access to Reproductive Health Care,” cites Dobbs v. Jackson Women’s Health in directing the services to provide time off from duty and travel expenses for service members and dependents seeking abortions that are not available at their military medical treatment facility or the adjacent civilian community.

Mischaracterizing Dobbs​

The first sentence of the memo claims, “the ruling in Dobbs v. Jackson Women’s Health Organization has impacted access to reproductive health care with readiness, recruiting, and retention implications for the Force.” This is an astounding claim, unsupported by facts, details, or supporting data.

Dobbs, which returned abortion regulation to the states, did change the regulatory landscape of the abortion industry. But the Department of Defense has not changed its policy of providing abortions in military medical treatment facilities where the pregnancy resulted from rape or incest or the life of the mother was in danger.

 

[herb749]

Department Of Defense Says Military Enlistment Wouldn’t Be So Low If Women Could Just Kill More Babies​

The Department of Defense seems to be using the Supreme Court’s overruling of Roe v. Wade as an excuse to promote the Biden administration’s abortion agenda.

Secretary of Defense Lloyd Austin’s Oct. 20, 2022, memorandum, “Ensuring Access to Reproductive Health Care,” cites Dobbs v. Jackson Women’s Health in directing the services to provide time off from duty and travel expenses for service members and dependents seeking abortions that are not available at their military medical treatment facility or the adjacent civilian community.

Mischaracterizing Dobbs​

The first sentence of the memo claims, “the ruling in Dobbs v. Jackson Women’s Health Organization has impacted access to reproductive health care with readiness, recruiting, and retention implications for the Force.” This is an astounding claim, unsupported by facts, details, or supporting data.

Dobbs, which returned abortion regulation to the states, did change the regulatory landscape of the abortion industry. But the Department of Defense has not changed its policy of providing abortions in military medical treatment facilities where the pregnancy resulted from rape or incest or the life of the mother was in danger.

Abortion industry is not a good term to use.

 

[BOP]

Department Of Defense Says Military Enlistment Wouldn’t Be So Low If Women Could Just Kill More Babies​

The Department of Defense seems to be using the Supreme Court’s overruling of Roe v. Wade as an excuse to promote the Biden administration’s abortion agenda.

Secretary of Defense Lloyd Austin’s Oct. 20, 2022, memorandum, “Ensuring Access to Reproductive Health Care,” cites Dobbs v. Jackson Women’s Health in directing the services to provide time off from duty and travel expenses for service members and dependents seeking abortions that are not available at their military medical treatment facility or the adjacent civilian community.

Mischaracterizing Dobbs​

The first sentence of the memo claims, “the ruling in Dobbs v. Jackson Women’s Health Organization has impacted access to reproductive health care with readiness, recruiting, and retention implications for the Force.” This is an astounding claim, unsupported by facts, details, or supporting data.

Dobbs, which returned abortion regulation to the states, did change the regulatory landscape of the abortion industry. But the Department of Defense has not changed its policy of providing abortions in military medical treatment facilities where the pregnancy resulted from rape or incest or the life of the mother was in danger.

I don't actually want to change that policy. I'll even pay for it with taxpayer dollars.

What pisses me off is the fact that the left has made it such a hot-button, wedge issue using (estimates I've seen) of 1% of all reasons for abortion to justify, as the article says, the entire abortion industry.

In other words, 1 time out of a 100, there is a legitimate reason for an abortion. 99 times out of a 100, there is no other reason other than birth control. If you don't want to risk getting pregnant, keep your legs closed and tell your partner to keep his pants on. It's that f*cking easy.

Probably the only thing I agree nearly whole-heartedly with the misanthropic left is that people suck, and that the world would be better off without humans.

 

[vraiblonde]

I vote we post-partum abort these people.

 

[SamSpade]

In other words, 1 time out of a 100, there is a legitimate reason for an abortion. 99 times out of a 100, there is no other reason other than birth control. If you don't want to risk getting pregnant, keep your legs closed and tell your partner to keep his pants on. It's that f*cking easy.

And it's that one or two times out of a hundred that is used to justify legislation that deals with the other 98-99. Which makes no sense UNLESS you regard abortion as utterly an all or nothing situation. And the left clearly sees it that way, because they waste no time declaring ANY CONSTRAINT on abortion whatsoever as a "ban".

What's more is, stopping most of those abortions after 15-20 weeks is regarded as unconscionable and calls for a situation where women will resort to coat hangers and many will die.

If you look up any chart showing the distribution of abortions by gestational age - the largest number are done in the first month and a half. Two thirds are in the first nine weeks. By the time you reach week 15 - you're at 95%. By the time you reach 20, 98-99%,

Quite honestly - "banning" abortions after 15 weeks barely puts a dent in the numbers, and it is perfectly in line with what most developed nations ALREADY DO. We are always hearing from the left about how so many other nations are more advanced than ours - and yet we want to keep abortions possible all the way up to and even briefly AFTER - birth.

By insisting on abortions - albeit a fraction of the whole - to be allowed all the way up to and after birth, we are in a small club of nations that include China and North Korea.

For God's sake, if you want an abortion, get one the first month - the second month - the third month. Maybe the fourth month. But for crying out loud, if you're still dithering after THAT, something is wrong with YOU and not the child.

 

[vraiblonde]

For God's sake, if you want an abortion, get one the first month - the second month - the third month. Maybe the fourth month. But for crying out loud, if you're still dithering after THAT, something is wrong with YOU and not the child.

Then we have to ask the question: do we really want these people raising children?

I am for free and completely unfettered abortion at any stage of the pregnancy. I wish all those skanky ghetto rats would get abortions instead of multiplying like cockroaches. Hollywood starlets and entertainers - I'm completely onboard with them aborting their spawn rather than giving birth to a **** trophy that will go on to prey on society before it eventually commits suicide. If it were up to me they'd all be forcibly sterilized.

You likely didn't grow up with a drug whore mom - almost 100% of these kids do and that's no kind of life for a child. People all like, "Oh, poor aborted fetus" without a shred of regard for the abused toddler and future chalk outline that fetus would have become.

 

[Hijinx]

It seems the school are teaching about homosexuality and transgender issues while forgetting to teach biology. If you have unprotected sex you have a good opportunity to get pregnant.
Can't they teach kids about birth control?
It's easy just take a pill every day or get some foam or keep your legs crossed.

 

[GURPS]

If it were up to me they'd all be forcibly sterilized.

I'm ok withy this, otherwise do not make me a party to murdering unborn children, with my Tax Dollars

 

[Clem72]

DOD should be taking the strategic view on this. 18 years from now they will have a larger pool to recruit from.

 

[vraiblonde]

I'm ok withy this, otherwise do not make me a party to murdering unborn children, with my Tax Dollars

So you'd rather they be abused and tortured on your tax dollar, then die of a drug overdose or be shot to death when they're in their teens after they've spawned numerous times?

I say cut to the chase.

 

[BOP]

Then we have to ask the question: do we really want these people raising children?

I am for free and completely unfettered abortion at any stage of the pregnancy. I wish all those skanky ghetto rats would get abortions instead of multiplying like cockroaches. Hollywood starlets and entertainers - I'm completely onboard with them aborting their spawn rather than giving birth to a **** trophy that will go on to prey on society before it eventually commits suicide. If it were up to me they'd all be forcibly sterilized.

You likely didn't grow up with a drug whore mom - almost 100% of these kids do and that's no kind of life for a child. People all like, "Oh, poor aborted fetus" without a shred of regard for the abused toddler and future chalk outline that fetus would have become.

Which pretty well sums up why I'm uncomfortable being fully in the so-called "pro-life" camp. It seems like the vast majority of them are against any and all abortions, period, when clearly many on the left should not be raising (and ruining) children.

 

[PeoplesElbow]

And it's that one or two times out of a hundred that is used to justify legislation that deals with the other 98-99. Which makes no sense UNLESS you regard abortion as utterly an all or nothing situation. And the left clearly sees it that way, because they waste no time declaring ANY CONSTRAINT on abortion whatsoever as a "ban".

What's more is, stopping most of those abortions after 15-20 weeks is regarded as unconscionable and calls for a situation where women will resort to coat hangers and many will die.

If you look up any chart showing the distribution of abortions by gestational age - the largest number are done in the first month and a half. Two thirds are in the first nine weeks. By the time you reach week 15 - you're at 95%. By the time you reach 20, 98-99%,

Quite honestly - "banning" abortions after 15 weeks barely puts a dent in the numbers, and it is perfectly in line with what most developed nations ALREADY DO. We are always hearing from the left about how so many other nations are more advanced than ours - and yet we want to keep abortions possible all the way up to and even briefly AFTER - birth.

By insisting on abortions - albeit a fraction of the whole - to be allowed all the way up to and after birth, we are in a small club of nations that include China and North Korea.

For God's sake, if you want an abortion, get one the first month - the second month - the third month. Maybe the fourth month. But for crying out loud, if you're still dithering after THAT, something is wrong with YOU and not the child.

You know, I've pointed this out and they simply refuse to believe it. I e actually been called a religious nut, and I've never attended church in my life other than a couple times I was dragged there by a girlfriend.

 

[SamSpade]

Then we have to ask the question: do we really want these people raising children?

I am for free and completely unfettered abortion at any stage of the pregnancy. I wish all those skanky ghetto rats would get abortions instead of multiplying like cockroaches. Hollywood starlets and entertainers - I'm completely onboard with them aborting their spawn rather than giving birth to a **** trophy that will go on to prey on society before it eventually commits suicide. If it were up to me they'd all be forcibly sterilized.

You likely didn't grow up with a drug whore mom - almost 100% of these kids do and that's no kind of life for a child. People all like, "Oh, poor aborted fetus" without a shred of regard for the abused toddler and future chalk outline that fetus would have become.

You're making an unsubstantiated leap of logic that the thousands of these kids raised by such parents only or largely occur because mama couldn't get an abortion. I don't know how to get this kind of data - but the data I've seen do fit a certain profile - most are in their 20's, high school education, single, a large portion are married and a majority already have had at least one child. While proportionately most abortions occur among blacks and Hispanics, most of them are white.

I can't speak for WHY anyone would pop out that many kids they can't raise - but I have met one or two who say the government benefits figured into their thinking.

I'm not at all in favor of any government intervention as to who should or shouldn't have children. A member of my own family got into drugs but for the first 8-9 years of her child's life, she was a great mother. And she's a good one now. I'm not in favor because - I've seen the idiotic, chaotic, bureacratic mess the government does things. And should the pendulum ever swing in a different direction, people could find themselves at the mercy of some fanatical and unscrupulous persons.

I don't have an answer - Jesus even said, you'll always have the poor. I presume even in his time, there were bad parents, considering how low valued children were in his time.

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ANYWAY

My primary point was, it is not unreasonable to have constraints on abortion, because most of the world does. Our nation is far and away among THE most libertine when it comes to abortion laws.

 

[vraiblonde]

Which pretty well sums up why I'm uncomfortable being fully in the so-called "pro-life" camp. It seems like the vast majority of them are against any and all abortions, period, when clearly many on the left should not be raising (and ruining) children.

That's the thing - my views come across as callous when actually they are highly compassionate. I feel for little kids stuck with shitty parents and I'd happily choke the bitch who abuses her babies or lets her bo'fren abuse them. I don't even read the stories about these people anymore because they just make me sick. Ideally these types wouldn't rut like mindless feral animals, but they do and there's no way for us to stop them from getting pregnant. So I highly encourage them to abort their bebe before it becomes an abused toddler, who will then grow up to be just another POS.

I hate seeing some cutie pie in the store or wherever, so sweet and smiling, with this freaking trash mom dragging them around. It's a glimpse into their future and it pisses me off.

 

[vraiblonde]

You're making an unsubstantiated leap of logic that the thousands of these kids raised by such parents only or largely occur because mama couldn't get an abortion. I don't know how to get this kind of data - but the data I've seen do fit a certain profile - most are in their 20's, high school education, single, a large portion are married and a majority already have had at least one child. While proportionately most abortions occur among blacks and Hispanics, most of them are white.

I don't know how you got that out of what I wrote, and I don't believe I mentioned race at all.

 

[Merlin99]

I don't know how you got that out of what I wrote, and I don't believe I mentioned race at all.

Skanky ghetto rats kind of paints a picture.

 

[vraiblonde]

Skanky ghetto rats kind of paints a picture.

Does it?

 

[GURPS]

Skanky ghetto rats kind of paints a picture.

Does it?

Certainly in PG County ....

White Trash lives in Trailer Parks in Rural WV

 

[SamSpade]

I don't know how you got that out of what I wrote, and I don't believe I mentioned race at all.

I wasn't trying to make a case about black or white - just that the persons GETTING abortions are not largely the ones in ghettos, and the persons NOT getting abortions - indicated in your post as skanky ghetto rats - may not be avoiding them because they can't afford them or can't find a place to get them.

In my meager experience, they choose to keep them on purpose, and at least one or two stated outright that the government bennies they get make it worth it,

I did notice something very off to me - while worldwide, the women getting abortions are almost always married - 70-80% - in THIS country, the same stat is SINGLE. That would indicate to me that abroad, abortions are used for reasons OTHER than birth control - such as economics.

 

[Hijinx]

A lot of shitty parents are in favor of having their children taught about being queer and transgendered in schools and some believe in telling their child they can have their sex changed and actually encourage it.
Every shitty parent is not one who seeks abortion.