Don't steal or Wal-Mart Security will strangle you

[Misfit]

Suspected shoplifter dies at metro Walmart | www.ajc.com

The Black Friday shopping weekend took a tragic turn early Sunday morning when a suspected shoplifter died while being apprehended by employees and a contract security officer outside a Lithonia Walmart.

The security officer, who police say may have placed the suspected thief in a choke hold, is no longer working for Walmart, the company said.

Police found the man to be unresponsive and bleeding from his nose and mouth. Emergency units took him to DMC-Hillandale Hospital, where he was pronounced dead

 

[desertrat]

That's what you get for stealing. No sympathy from me.

So he was proven guilty in a court of law?

 

[Jeter3000]

You're right, I was too quick to judge. I was wrong

 

[letmetellyou]

So he was proven guilty in a court of law?

What does that matter?

 

[struggler44]

So he was proven guilty in a court of law?

No need ......

 

[bcp]

So he was proven guilty in a court of law?

so if someone breaks into your house with full intent to kill you, you would wait till he was proven guilty in a court of law before firing a weapon at him?

I am a firm believer in the theory that innocent until guilty should not cover the guy who is guilty.
Like if an officer sees someone shoot someone else, there is no question of guilt and at this point a trial is really not required. Just shoot him on the spot, fill out the paperwork and go back out to finish the shift.

 

[BigBlue]

so if someone breaks into your house with full intent to kill you, you would wait till he was proven guilty in a court of law before firing a weapon at him?

I am a firm believer in the theory that innocent until guilty should not cover the guy who is guilty.
Like if an officer sees someone shoot someone else, there is no question of guilt and at this point a trial is really not required. Just shoot him on the spot, fill out the paperwork and go back out to finish the shift.

Maybe he was'mt stealing,maybe he just didn't stop when the greeter wanted to see his receipt?

http://forums.somd.com/news-current-events/260093-5-years-punching-70-y-o-walmart-greeter.html

 

[letmetellyou]

I am a firm believer in the theory that innocent until guilty should not cover the guy who is guilty.

Like if an officer sees someone shoot someone else, there is no question of guilt and at this point a trial is really not required. Just shoot him on the spot, fill out the paperwork and go back out to finish the shift.

Everything is not always as it seems though. If cops came upon the man who killed Jesus Mora Flores, I would hope they wouldn't shoot him on the spot and fill out the paperwork.

 

[czygvtwkr]

So he was proven guilty in a court of law?

No, was the Walmart employee?

 

[tom88]

So he was proven guilty in a court of law?

Did you give this post any thought?

 

[BigBlue]

The post does say"suspected shoplifter "....so they were not sure.So now this person is dead because someone thinks....they saw something,Walmart will just cover it up with money.

 

[desertrat]

No, was the Walmart employee?

Not yet, but I bet he gets a trial at least.

so if someone breaks into your house with full intent to kill you, you would wait till he was proven guilty in a court of law before firing a weapon at him?
I am a firm believer in the theory that innocent until guilty should not cover the guy who is guilty.
Like if an officer sees someone shoot someone else, there is no question of guilt and at this point a trial is really not required. Just shoot him on the spot, fill out the paperwork and go back out to finish the shift.

Oh come on, that is hardly the same thing. The security guy thought he had pocketed something. He used excessive force to stop a suspect. He is not law enforcement and neither is he protecting his home, family or property.

Did you give this post any thought?

No, none what so ever.

 

[desertrat]

What does that matter?

It will matter. That security guy is going to get his a$$ sued off.

 

[letmetellyou]

It will matter. That security guy is going to get his a$$ sued off.

So do you think if the guy is tried in absentia and convicted, do you think the security guard would not have his a$$ sued off? They are going to sue no matter what.

It is a shame though. While nobody should die for shoplifting, this security guy shouldn't be punished for trying to stop this guy. I don't think there are any clear winners here, except some lawyer, but I think the poster who put the blame on the shoplifter got it right.

While he hadn't been convicted of this instance of shoplifting, it appears there are several other instances that he had.

 

[desertrat]

So do you think if the guy is tried in absentia and convicted, do you think the security guard would not have his a$$ sued off? They are going to sue no matter what.

It is a shame though. While nobody should die for shoplifting, this security guy shouldn't be punished for trying to stop this guy. I don't think there are any clear winners here, except some lawyer, but I think the poster who put the blame on the shoplifter got it right.

While he hadn't been convicted of this instance of shoplifting, it appears there are several other instances that he had.

I don't know what they are actually allowed to do as far as detaining you. It's just shoplifting and although it's wrong it certainly is not a serious crime. If he had help him till the cops got there they would have been able to arrest him, but I'm sure he'd be out in a few hours.

 

[letmetellyou]

I don't know what they are actually allowed to do as far as detaining you. It's just shoplifting and although it's wrong it certainly is not a serious crime. If he had help him till the cops got there they would have been able to arrest him, but I'm sure he'd be out in a few hours.

Okay, but what does this have to do with him being convicted of the crime or not? That was your original statement.

 

[desertrat]

Okay, but what does this have to do with him being convicted of the crime or not? That was your original statement.

I don't know why no one gets it. He never made it to trial! He was never even arrested and charged! He may or may not have stole something, but because of an over zealous security guy and the fact that he may have gotten fiesty he is dead.

 

[letmetellyou]

I don't know why no one gets it. He never made it to trial! He was never even arrested and charged! He may or may not have stole something, but because of an over zealous security guy and the fact that he may have gotten fiesty he is dead.

So if he did steal something are you saying the security guys actions were then okay?

I'm curious if he did steal something, what is it you think the security guy should have done?

 

[b23hqb]

Obviously there should be a five day cooling off period before any merchandise, purchased or stolen, is allowed to leave the store.

If you don't have a receipt for something, don't leave the store.

Yeah, right. That would leave a lot of people with really nothing to do.