Don't wash your chicken!

Wenchy

Hot Flash
:lol:

I was a computer tech for over 30 years. I had to touch some of the grungiest and most foul keyboards and mice ever on a regular basis. I never got ill, and i don't know any other tech that ever got ill from touching a keyboard or mouse. In fact, most of the time when a mouse wasn't responding, it was the gook underneath that no one ever cleans out. I'd get a scraper and clean them all the time, and never ran the the wash room fearing I'd die.

Gross. I'm going to cook my chicken now.

Oh, and my keyboard is clean. So is my mouse.
 

Misfit

Lawful neutral
DID YOU KNOW that when you flush your terlet the power swirl releases millions - perhaps billions - of toilet germs, including whatever else was in the bowl, into the air? This means every time you use a public restroom you get showered with everyone else's pee and poop. Even in your own home, flushing coats your skin with urine and fecal matter. And not only your skin but EVERYTHING in the bathroom.

I am not making that up:
Think before you flush or brush | Serendip Studio

Vrai this stupid post freaked me out. Last night I actually had a dream about flushing the toilet and crap flying everywhere. I woke up this morning at 5:30 and spent 5 hours bleaching the floors, toilets and walls of every bathroom in the house. Then I started to think about the OP and decided to bleach every surface in the kitchen and dining room. I'm exhausted.
 

ZARA

Registered User
Well, let me really freak you out...Love your trusty hand sanitizer? May not after reading this...

WARNING: Antibacterial Soap Linked to Major Health Threats
Massachusetts Democrat Edward Markey has called for strict limits on the use of triclosan. "Despite the fact that this chemical is found in everything from soaps to socks," said Markey, "There are many troubling questions about triclosan's effectiveness and potentially harmful effects, especially for children."

One study showed that the chemical can alter hormone regulation. A number of other studies have demonstrated that bacteria exposed to triclosan could potentially become resistant to antibiotics.

One of the most common antibacterials is triclosan, a chlorinated phenolic compound. Triclosan has been found to have both estrogenic and androgenic activity and has been linked to hormone disruption in animals.

One 2006 study found that triclosan induces changes in the thyroid hormone-mediated process of metamorphosis of the North American bullfrog, while a 2007 study demonstrated, for the first time, that triclosan decreases circulating concentrations of the thyroid hormone thyroxine (T4), in rats.


This effect could be a potential health hazard for each individual that chooses to use triclosan products, but the widespread use of triclosan is also contributing to a much bigger problem that affects everyone.

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More recently, in 2006, the Emerging Contaminants Workgroup of the Santa Clara Basin Watershed Management Initiative (SCBWMI), issued a white paper on triclosan, where they explain, in layman’s terms, the mechanism by which triclosan may cause resistance:

“Unlike bleach and soap that destroy and dislodge bacteria microbes, triclosan works by interfering with a specific bacterial enzyme. Non-specific antiseptics, such as alcohol, merely break open the cell and, therefore, are not the type of chemical to which bacteria could develop resistance.

On the other hand, triclosan’s mode of action is different from alcohols and peroxide. Triclosan is fat-soluble and easily penetrates the bacterial cell wall. And once inside the cell it attacks an enzyme that is used to produce fatty acids that are vital to cell function.

This mode-of-action could ultimately lead to the development of antibiotic resistance. Through continual use of triclosan, non-bacterial strains would be killed, leaving only the bacteria whose enzyme system has evolved to resist the presence of triclosan.

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Antibacterial Products Actually LESS EFFECTIVE than Plain Soap and Water…

As the AMA stated ten years ago, there was, and still is, little or no evidence that these antibacterial products outperform the good-old-fashioned techniques like washing with soap and water.

What there is, however, is evidence that the old anti-germ strategies are more effective than modern antibacterials!

In a recent press release, Dr. Sarah Janssen of the Natural Resources Defense Council is quoted as saying:

"It's about time FDA has finally stated its concerns about antibacterial chemicals like triclosan.

The public deserves to know that these so-called antibacterial products are no more effective in preventing infections than regular soap and water and may, in fact, be dangerous to their health in the long run."


he most effective hand-washing technique involves three steps:

Use warm water
Work up a good lather all the way up to your wrists for at least 10 or 15 seconds
Don't forget to get all surfaces including the backs of your hands, wrists, between your fingers and an area often overlooked, your fingernails

An all-purpose cleanser that works great for kitchen counters, cutting boards and bathrooms is 3% hydrogen peroxide and vinegar.

Simply put each liquid into a separate spray bottle, then spray the surface with one, followed by the other.

In tests run at Virginia Polytechnic Institute and State University, pairing the two mists killed virtually all Salmonella, Shigella, and E. coli bacteria on heavily contaminated food and surfaces when used in this fashion, making this spray combination more effective at killing these potentially lethal bacteria than chlorine bleach or any commercially available kitchen cleaner.

The best results came from using one mist right after the other -- it is 10 times more effective than using either spray by itself and more effective than mixing the vinegar and hydrogen peroxide in one sprayer.

Sunlight is another powerful disinfectant, and drying your laundry in the sun is one of the best ways to save energy and wind up with fresh, clean linens and clothing.

There’s really no need to expose your family to dangerous chemical disinfectants. As an added bonus aside from the health benefits, using this type of natural homemade cleanser is much less expensive than commercial varieties.
Triclosan: Is it safe? - MayoClinic.com
Research has shown that triclosan:

Alters hormone regulation in animals
Might contribute to the development of antibiotic-resistant germs
Might be harmful to the immune system


Issues: Antibacterials: Triclosan — Beyond Pesticides
Recent Updates

It is time once again to tell EPA to remove this dangerous chemical from the market.
In March 2013, EPA opened the federal docket for triclosan, offically beginning the registration review of triclosan. Under pressure after its 2008 review, EPA announced that it would again review triclosan in 2013, five years earlier than scheduled. Over the last few years, as a direct result of pressure from consumer groups and the media regarding the need for triclosan in consumer products and the mounting scientific evidence documenting adverse health effects, including impacts to the thyroid hormone, major manufacturers have begun to quietly reformulate their products without triclosan.
Johnson & Johnson to Phase Out Triclosan. Health care and cosmetics giant Johnson and Johnson has announced that it will soon begin phasing out a number of potentially dangerous chemicals from its personal care brands, including triclosan. The company cites consumer concern over the safety of triclosan as among its reasons for the alteration in its products, hinting that it was uncomfortable with growing body of science linking triclosan to a number of health concerns.
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CDC - NBP - Factsheet - Triclosan
Levels of Triclosan in the U.S. Population

In the Fourth National Report on Human Exposure to Environmental Chemicals (Fourth Report), CDC scientists measured triclosan in the urine of 2,517 participants aged six years and older who took part in the National Health and Nutrition Examination Survey (NHANES) during 2003–2004. By measuring triclosan in urine, scientists can estimate the amount of triclosan that has entered people's bodies.

Triclosan was detected in the urine of nearly 75% of the people tested.


http://wwwnc.cdc.gov/eid/article/11/10/pdfs/04-1276.pdf

Conclusion
Currently, no evidence suggests that use of antibacterial soap containing 0.2% triclosan provides a benefit over plain soap in reducing bacterial counts and rate of infectious symptoms in generally healthy persons in the household setting (4,5,15).

Popular Antibacterial Soap Ingredient Draws FDA Scrutiny - ABC News
May 3, 2013 9:45am

ABC News’ Dr. Richard Besser and Roger Lee report:

Triclosan is a popular antibacterial chemical that has been on the market for more than 40 years and found in everything from soap to body washes, but recent studies raise concerns that it might be doing more harm than good.

Studies of triclosan in animals suggest that the chemical could increase the risk of infertility and early puberty and other hormone-related problems in humans.

The U.S. Food and Drug Administration is planning to deliver a review later this year of whether triclosan is safe. The FDA says animal studies “don’t always predict effects in humans.”

The FDA has been working on a review of whether triclosan is safe for nearly 40 years. Its website said the review would be released in 2012, but there is still no sign of it. When asked about a release date, an FDA spokesperson declined to comment because of ongoing litigation. Until this review is finalized, companies are permitted to use the chemical in their products.
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“The fact is triclosan is safe … has an extensive track record; human health and environmental safety,” Brian Sansoni, a spokesman for the American Cleaning Institute, said.

Meanwhile, some consumer advocates have questioned why the chemical is still being used after the FDA said it has no evidence soaps made with triclosan “provide any benefit over washing with regular soap and water.”
 
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libertytyranny

Dream Stealer
I usually rinse my whole chickens to get the extra blood and guts bits off of it and off of the inside..ive never done it thinking I was removing germs..thats stupid. I will continue to do so and I am smart enough to use seperate utensils and cutting boards for meat, especially chicken.

the stuff they come up with to bother people is insane. :bigwhoop:



Meanwhile you should seeeee the mommies' faces when I tell them my kid uses public toilets without me carrying around a potty seat, covers and clorox bleach :killingme and we wash our hands with soap and water. im a rebel. :lmao:


interesting note...antibacterial gels are not sup to be a subsitute for hand washing..its just sup to get you by. Soap and water is STILL more effective..and the gels do not kill a number of things. Soap and water actually breaks the surface tension of the water and helps to physically remove the germs on your hands..the gels just leave you with half dead germs sitting on your skin.
 

BadGirl

I am so very blessed
Bubba was giving one of our chickens a bath yesterday.

With Dawn dish detergent and a hose.

It's still alive.

:thewave:
 
So.... I'm gonna throw a rack of ribs on the grill.



Do I wash them or not?? :confused: And do I need to wash the entire kitchen down with Clorox when I'm done? If I don't, will I get trichinosis?


:jameo:
 

ZARA

Registered User
So.... I'm gonna throw a rack of ribs on the grill.



Do I wash them or not?? :confused: And do I need to wash the entire kitchen down with Clorox when I'm done? If I don't, will I get trichinosis?


:jameo:

I wash all meat to make sure there aren't any bone shavings on it. Then I wipe down with bleach. No one has ever gotten sick eating at my house.:buddies:
 
I wash all meat to make sure there aren't any bone shavings on it. Then I wipe down with bleach. No one has ever gotten sick eating at my house.:buddies:

:lol: Actually, I was :elaine:. I take the ribs out of the plastic, throw some seasoning on it and onto the grill. Quick wipe of the counter and I'm done.

And I have never gotten sick either!
 

Hank

my war
Speaking of clean meat.....:yikes: When buying meat at a grocery store, please bag it like you do produce. That prevents meat slime from getting on the carts and cashier's conveyor.
 

ZARA

Registered User
Speaking of clean meat.....:yikes: When buying meat at a grocery store, please bag it like you do produce. That prevents meat slime from getting on the carts and cashier's conveyor.

Bah! Use the bag to pick the meat up. Place your hand inside of the bag like a glove, grab the meat, then pull the rest of the bag over the meat. Never get meat cooties that way.

Side note: I wear gloves when handling meat. Freaks the hubs out. :evil:
 
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