Downfall of the NFL...

Larry Gude

Strung Out
...will be an 18 game season.

It's easy to look at baseball and hockey and see where they went wrong. It was, frankly, easy to see at the time.

It was easy to see where George Bush started going wrong, it was easy to see something was wrong with housing and it's easy to see where Obama is going wrong now.

It was easy to see how stupid the Treaty of Versailles was when it was being written.

So, are people simply doomed to to go right over the edge even though the signs all say "NIAGRA FALLS-DANGER AHEAD"?

Nothing is more popular right now than the NFL in terms of pro sports. Fans love it. The game is healthy. It works. So, what to do? Mess it up.

Right now there are two 16 team conferences, 8 four team divisions, a nice, symmetrical regular season where you play your division opponents twice and you play your way around both conferences and it works nice.

Most teams are in the hunt at least for 1/2 the season and crazy exciting stuff like the Chargers being out of it and the Broncos being a shoo in yet the whole thing turning around does indeed happen.

The flaws right now are a stupid, pointless preseason and two more teams in each conference need to make the playoffs to eliminate the first round bye which hurts as much as it helps. That means the Pats, at 11-5, would have gotten in. An argument could be made that rosters need to be expanded so teams aren't so thin and a key injury or two wouldn't be as devastating.

The salary cap is more an interesting novelty and a monument to Rube Goldberg but, hey, the NFL doesn't need to be PERFECT.

It also doesn't need to go over the falls and crash. An 18 game season is a disaster. That will demand larger rosters. More players will break down. A 10 year career will now be less than 9. And the record book will be thrown into an asterisk ridden farce for a generation.

On top of that, look at last years records after 16 games.

What is two more games gonna do for the Lions?

Would two more games have ruined the Chargers/Broncos story?

By conference it would have PERHAPS;

AFC East; Kept the Jets in the chase and made Buffalo have two more meaningless games.

AFC North; Given Browns and Bengals fans two more tickets to give away to friends and family.

AFC South; Late season Texans and Jags tickets would have been in more envelopes for the paper boy.

AFC West; Raiders and Chiefs fans would be looking forward to tornado and drive by season.

NFC East; This might have been interesting with a battle to the wire between Philly Dallas and the Skins.

NFC North; Do we really need to see more of Lambeau? In mid January? For a meaningless game? I mentioned the Lions. 0-18 and things only get uglier.

NFC South; Bucs and Saint's would have had an extra week or two of giving away sun tan lotion and beads to the first 10,000 through the door late season.

NFC West; Rams and Seahawks had nothing to play for for another two games.



Note to NFL; WARNING-DANGER AHEAD. It ain't broke. Don't fix it.
 
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toppick08

Guest
My awakening came when Tom Landry was fired........I knew then, it was a new era........:ohwell:
 

Pete

Repete
My awakening came when Tom Landry was fired........I knew then, it was a new era........:ohwell:

You are the guy who sits in a room half way listening to people talk about something then just randomly blurt out some completely off point but very loosely related statement while you blankly stare at a spot on the wall oblivious to what is going on around you right?

Allow me to demonstrate.


Larry: I got a new car.

Otter: Really what kind?

Larry: A Toyota and it is great.

Otter: Oh does it get good mileage?

Topick: My grandaddy shot a Jap on Tarawa. :whistle:
 
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toppick08

Guest
You are the guy who sits in a room half way listening to people talk about something then just randomly blurt out some completely off point but very loosely related statement while you blankly stare at a spot on the wall oblivious to what is going on around you right?

Allow me to demonstrate.


Larry: I got a new car.

Otter: Really what kind?

Larry: A Toyota and it is great.

Otter: Oh does it get good mileage?

Topick: My grandaddy shot a Jap on Tarawa. :whistle:

Actually, my Papaw bought a '73 Datsun pickup..............:killingme...that little frucker could haul 2 cords of wood.......easily.
 
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Beaver-Cleaver

Guest
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/03/24/sports/football/24nfl.html?ref=sports

Still, ticket sales have lagged in other sports and Goodell conceded that he expected season ticket renewals for 2009 to suffer in some markets. That will lead to television blackouts in cities like Detroit, where the economy has been hard hit and where there were blackouts last season. Goodell said the N.F.L. would not change its blackout policy, which requires teams to sell out home games 72 hours before kickoff to avoid a blackout, although teams frequently receive extensions. Extensions were needed to sell out some playoff games in January.

Basically, they're saying "#### you" to the midwest fans.
 

Beta84

They're out to get us
...will be an 18 game season.

It's easy to look at baseball and hockey and see where they went wrong. It was, frankly, easy to see at the time.

It was easy to see where George Bush started going wrong, it was easy to see something was wrong with housing and it's easy to see where Obama is going wrong now.

It was easy to see how stupid the Treaty of Versailles was when it was being written.

So, are people simply doomed to to go right over the edge even though the signs all say "NIAGRA FALLS-DANGER AHEAD"?

Nothing is more popular right now than the NFL in terms of pro sports. Fans love it. The game is healthy. It works. So, what to do? Mess it up.

Right now there are two 16 team conferences, 8 four team divisions, a nice, symmetrical regular season where you play your division opponents twice and you play your way around both conferences and it works nice.

Most teams are in the hunt at least for 1/2 the season and crazy exciting stuff like the Chargers being out of it and the Broncos being a shoo in yet the whole thing turning around does indeed happen.

The flaws right now are a stupid, pointless preseason and two more teams in each conference need to make the playoffs to eliminate the first round bye which hurts as much as it helps. That means the Pats, at 11-5, would have gotten in. An argument could be made that rosters need to be expanded so teams aren't so thin and a key injury or two wouldn't be as devastating.

The salary cap is more an interesting novelty and a monument to Rube Goldberg but, hey, the NFL doesn't need to be PERFECT.

It also doesn't need to go over the falls and crash. An 18 game season is a disaster. That will demand larger rosters. More players will break down. A 10 year career will now be less than 9. And the record book will be thrown into an asterisk ridden farce for a generation.

On top of that, look at last years records after 16 games.

What is two more games gonna do for the Lions?

Would two more games have ruined the Chargers/Broncos story?

By conference it would have PERHAPS;

AFC East; Kept the Jets in the chase and made Buffalo have two more meaningless games.

AFC North; Given Browns and Bengals fans two more tickets to give away to friends and family.

AFC South; Late season Texans and Jags tickets would have been in more envelopes for the paper boy.

AFC West; Raiders and Chiefs fans would be looking forward to tornado and drive by season.

NFC East; This might have been interesting with a battle to the wire between Philly Dallas and the Skins.

NFC North; Do we really need to see more of Lambeau? In mid January? For a meaningless game? I mentioned the Lions. 0-18 and things only get uglier.

NFC South; Bucs and Saint's would have had an extra week or two of giving away sun tan lotion and beads to the first 10,000 through the door late season.

NFC West; Rams and Seahawks had nothing to play for for another two games.



Note to NFL; WARNING-DANGER AHEAD. It ain't broke. Don't fix it.


good stuff for the most part. I think the salary cap is a GREAT thing for the NFL, so you don't end up with BS where there are big market teams getting the top players and small market teams that can't compete. More strategy is involved if you want to be a consistent powerhouse like the Patriots or Colts.

Also, the season would start earlier, not drag out later. The discussion is the preseason should only be 2 games, instead of 4, and turn the other 2 games into regular season games.

Missing among the stories though...

AFC East: Dolphins and Pats continue their battle for the division title
AFC North: Could the Ravens come back and win the division from Pitt?
AFC South: Could the streaking Colts overtake the Titans?
AFC West: Continue the battle between the Chargers and Broncos
NFC North: Vikings vs Bears for the division crown
NFC South: Can the Falcons actually win their own division crown after a miserable season the year before? Could the Saints or Bucs come back and make the playoffs? Drew Brees, all time record holder for passing yards in a single season!
NFC West: Can the sizzling 49ers overtake the slumping Cardinals (yeah, that team who went to the Superbowl) down the stretch?

I'm not advocating the NFL extend its season by any means. I think 16 games is adequate. But there are plenty of close division battles and interesting stories that could have continued, division winners and playoff teams change, etc etc. Is that better or worse? Who knows? I do know that a longer season would take a toll on the players and I'm not really in favor of that.

I don't really like the idea of expanding the playoff field to 8 teams. There have already been 8-8 teams in the playoffs. I really don't want to see a crappy 7-9 team make it. I understand that there is occasionally a 10-6 team who misses and very rarely an 11-5 team that's left out, but for each of those stories, you'd end up with more 9-7, 8-8, or maybe even 7-9 teams filling the holes. I don't think the Bucs, Cowboys, or Bears would have done anything in the playoffs...especially considering the Bucs and Cowboys had to have terrible conclusions to the season just to miss the playoffs in the first place. On the flip side, the Pats making the playoffs may have been good, but the Jets were in their own late season collapse and would have made for a lame final entry. At least this season there wouldn't have been any 8-8 teams using that format.

And as always, I think I've given more than discussion here. Curse my obsession with football!! :smile:
 

Larry Gude

Strung Out
good stuff for the most part. I think the salary cap is a GREAT thing for the NFL, so you don't end up with BS where there are big market teams getting the top players and small market teams that can't compete.

I am ALL in favor of a cap of some sort that has the result the current non sense has; parity. There are better ways to do it, but, however they do it, I'm with you on the parity part.

You CAN'T start the regular season in AUGUST. You just can't. That's immoral.

Extending the division races risks baseball-izing the thing into irrelevance. Why not add a third division game as a tie breaker? Why not best 3 our of 5?
The risk is dilution.

I am against the first round bye be it cutting two teams or adding two teams so that everyone plays that first week. There is NO advantage to the bye and it's not fair for some teams to, going all the way, have to play one more game.

:buddies:
 

Otter

Nothing to see here
I am ALL in favor of a cap of some sort that has the result the current non sense has; parity. There are better ways to do it, but, however they do it, I'm with you on the parity part.

You CAN'T start the regular season in AUGUST. You just can't. That's immoral.

Extending the division races risks baseball-izing the thing into irrelevance. Why not add a third division game as a tie breaker? Why not best 3 our of 5?
The risk is dilution.

I am against the first round bye be it cutting two teams or adding two teams so that everyone plays that first week. There is NO advantage to the bye and it's not fair for some teams to, going all the way, have to play one more game.

:buddies:


They've jumped the shark, I am throwing my support and fandom to the UFL!!
 
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