Dylann Roof..Death penalty or Life in Prison
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glhs837
Power with Control
Even if he was, too bad. No point in expending societies resource's on keeping him in air and water, let alone food.
I'd give all violent criminals the death penalty. I've never understood the purpose of warehousing them for life on taxpayer dime.
I'm speculating here, but from what I've seen and read I think he wants to be put to death. He seems to believe he'll become a martyr for whatever his sick cause is. If that is true, then what is the worst punishment he could be sentenced to? I would think it would have to be life in prison without parole.
Oh, and I'm NOT against the death penalty.
Oh, and I'm NOT against the death penalty.
GWguy
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Maybe not so much a purpose, but rather an ethical choice. Don't forget, religious people take seriously the 10 commandments, one of which is 'Thou shalt not kill'. Doesn't matter if the guy deserves it or not, it's against their beliefs to sentence anyone to death.
The commandment is actually "Thou shalt not murder." Killing evildoers, in defense, and in war is justified, according to the Bible (both Hebrew and New Testament). The Catholics totally made that "death penalty is against the Bible" crap up.
glhs837
Power with Control
Dont care what he wants, nor in trying to decide whats "worse" for him. He's a broken thing that serves no purpose on the planet. Let him leave it. Any effort expended by humans for the care and feeding of this thing is wasted effort.
Yep.....
Larry Gude
Strung Out
I appreciate the sentiment, the anger but he is not a thing any more than his victims were. Life in prison serves the purpose of exposing him as NOT superior, just another human being, like the rest of us except for the fact that HE thought he was superior and OTHERS deserved to be treated like 'things'. It does not serve our society to become what we despise in ourselves.
I agree that he gets no say in the matter. That is his punishment; he forfeited his rights to the society by violating our most sacred principle; that we ALL have the right to life, liberty and pursuit of happiness. As I age and I see people like Manson aging and become old and feeble I think that helps reduce the chances of a future Manson or Roof.
Larry Gude
Strung Out
Understood. I sure didn't suggest he go free. We're disagreeing over the long term societal benefits of execution v. life with no parole.
of course there is the 'you don't put down a rabid dog as a warning to the other dogs' and I used to ascribe to that. That's why I explained my reasoning; seeing Manson rot is better than some mythical vision of him in his prime defiantly going out. Or McVeigh or Roof.
I understand your point, but I don't think that will deter the rabid humans among us. "Oh, geez, Manson grew old in prison...guess I better not dismember and eat this little kid." I'm not feelin' it. The very definition of "criminally insane" is that they have no control over their compulsions. Which, in my mind, doesn't mean they are "not guilty" or shouldn't be strapped to the chair. Quite the contrary...
Capital punishment, to me, is a practical matter. Nothing personal. No different than putting down a rabid dog.
Larry Gude
Strung Out
When you dehumanize people...you dehumanize people. Same thing Roof did; they are unworthy. They are lesser.
I have no problem dehumanizing people like this. They are lesser. They are unworthy. They relinquished their own humanity.