Elizabeth Warren counts on her supporters being stupid

[vraiblonde]

So...a couple of things:

Presidents don't amend the Constitution; Congress does that. And it's a long arduous process, not something she can personally accomplish ever, let alone in four years.

Do you suppose Fauxcahontas doesn't understand what Senators do, despite having been one for almost 7 years? Or is she just counting on the ignorance of her mindless support base?

 

[kom526]

What is Ignorance? For $1000, Alex.

 

[Toxick]

Or is she just counting on the ignorance of her mindless support base?

I'm going to have to go with this.

 

[SamSpade]

I'm going to have to go with this.

Indeed. Even if it could get past Congress, it still has to be approved by 38 states.

In other words - not happening.

 

[MiddleGround]

Simply for equality....

Doesn't the majority of people on here (OP included) constantly defend some of the things Conservative/Republican candidates "promise" as being "the typical campaign promise that any idiot would know is not going to happen?"

Why point this out when you already know it is just an empty campaign promise?

 

[This_person]

Do you suppose Fauxcahontas doesn't understand what Senators do, despite having been one for almost 7 years? Or is she just counting on the ignorance of her mindless support base?

Well, in that short video she called us a democracy, and we're not.

The states would have to ratify - enough won't.

It's just not a good idea.

So, I'm going with the latter, not the former.

 

[gemma_rae]

Do you suppose Fauxcahontas doesn't understand what Senators do, despite having been one for almost 7 years? Or is she just counting on the ignorance of her mindless support base?

I suppose the latter, but will not rule out the former.

Much like Harvey Dent, I'm of two minds on this one.

P.S. I was typing my response as T_p posted

 

[awpitt]

So...a couple of things:

Presidents don't amend the Constitution; Congress does that. And it's a long arduous process, not something she can personally accomplish ever, let alone in four years.

Do you suppose Fauxcahontas doesn't understand what Senators do, despite having been one for almost 7 years? Or is she just counting on the ignorance of her mindless support base?

Actually, history shows that amending the Constitution is not as long of process many believe. The 27th Amendment took the longest. Just under 203 years to be ratified. The 12th Amendment took 189 days to be ratified. The rest of the amendments took anywhere between one and three years to be ratified.

 

[This_person]

Actually, history shows that amending the Constitution is not as long of process many believe. The 27th Amendment took the longest. Just under 203 years to be ratified. The 12th Amendment took 189 days to be ratified. The rest of the amendments took anywhere between one and three years to be ratified.

Do you believe the states would ratify themselves out of relevancy?

 

[vraiblonde]

Do you believe the states would ratify themselves out of relevancy?

The dumb ones like Connecticut would.

 

[awpitt]

Do you believe the states would ratify themselves out of relevancy?

I imagine some would but not enough to ratify.

 

[Chris0nllyn]

Every politician looking to get into office counts on dumb constituents.

Government does not want an educated populace.

 

[Toxick]

Doesn't the majority of people on here (OP included) constantly defend some of the things Conservative/Republican candidates "promise" as being "the typical campaign promise that any idiot would know is not going to happen?"

Speaking only for myself, of course:



Defend? No.
Acknowledge. Yeah.

Why point this out when you already know it is just an empty campaign promise?

Fun?

 

[MiddleGround]

Speaking only for myself, of course:



Defend? No.
Acknowledge. Yeah.

I did mean "defend"

As in, when Trump does it... it is perfectly OK because "we all know it is just an empty campaign promise.

Chief Thinblood does it and it is a big deal and something to make fun of.

Ya' know... the hypocrisy and all...

 

[Stjohns3269]

So...a couple of things:

Presidents don't amend the Constitution; Congress does that. And it's a long arduous process, not something she can personally accomplish ever, let alone in four years.

Do you suppose Fauxcahontas doesn't understand what Senators do, despite having been one for almost 7 years? Or is she just counting on the ignorance of her mindless support base?

FIFY

So ..... A couple of things

Presidents don't amend the Constitution; Congress does that. And it's a long arduous process, not something he can personally accomplish ever, let alone in four years. He can't just decide to fund a border wall

Do you suppose Trumpanzee doesn't understand what Senators do, despite having no experience? Or is he just counting on the ignorance of his mindless support base?

 

[SamSpade]

Actually, history shows that amending the Constitution is not as long of process many believe. The 27th Amendment took the longest. Just under 203 years to be ratified. The 12th Amendment took 189 days to be ratified. The rest of the amendments took anywhere between one and three years to be ratified.

Well - you're not wrong. It just takes longer - as in, forever - for unpopular ones to make it through. The ERA comes quickly to mind, but in fact EVERY session there are hundreds of proposals that really never go anywhere.

I don't see how eliminating the Electoral College has any traction, even when more popular ones, such as term limits, balanced budget and repeal of income tax seem to go nowhere.

 

[SamSpade]

He can't just decide to fund a border wall

Really trying to see how this has the tiniest bit of relevance to amending the Constitution or eliminating the Electoral College, not that being completely irrelevant would dissuade you.

The President DOES have the ability to move funds from within his own branch as can be done. I've seen it in several administrations going back to Bush I.

 

[Stjohns3269]

Really trying to see how this has the tiniest bit of relevance to amending the Constitution or eliminating the Electoral College, not that being completely irrelevant would dissuade you.

The President DOES have the ability to move funds from within his own branch as can be done. I've seen it in several administrations going back to Bush I.

So then why hasn't Trump done it?


I was showing the hypocrisy of criticizing Warren for saying she would do something once elected as though she were saying she would wave a wand and make it happen yet believing that is just what Trump would do when he said " he would build a wall and make mexico pay for it" " Defeat Isis on his first day in office" and all his other nonsense

 

[vraiblonde]

So then why hasn't Trump done it?

Um...

Trump Has Secured Funding For More Than Half Of Border Wall

One-hundred eleven miles of new or replacement wall is either being built or is on progress on the southern border after Trump's first two years in office.

dailycaller.com

 

[SamSpade]

I was showing the hypocrisy of criticizing Warren for saying she would do something once elected

Not hypocritical - she has virtually zero ability to do that. Even if she could compel Congress to pass it, she can't do anything about the 38 states approval, nor could she even hint at a timeline.

as though she were saying she would wave a wand and make it happen yet believing that is just what Trump would do when he said " he would build a wall and make mexico pay for it" " Defeat Isis on his first day in office" and all his other nonsense

Last I checked, ISIS is defeated.

During campaigns and especially during SOTU addresses, Presidents propose such things, but usually if it's popular and reasonable, it goes through. This is why Obama could propose things in an SOTU and wham - it goes through.

The bizarre thing about the wall is that Congress had previously approved BILLIONS more dollars for it - but opposed it because Trump wanted it,
even among members who had themselves voted in favor of it and were on record as being in favor. And he couldn't sweeten the deal enough, by adding the Dream Act or any form of amnesty. They were having none of it. It should have been a slam dunk mainly because previously, the Dems were on board with it. They just turned on it because he wanted it.