Emergency Commie Poll...

[Xaquin44]

That's different. He was a commie.

I know!

 

[Gwydion]

It's a well known fact that Stalin created secret poll camps in secret locations scattered about the ukraineian tundra.

Just for polling.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UkrainePollCamps

Don't know about that, but I do know Hitler created Pole camps.

 

[Xaquin44]

Don't know about that, but I do know Hitler created Pole camps.

booooooo

get off the stage!

 

[msqtech]

which is worse a facist or communist?

 

[Larry Gude]

which is worse a facist or communist?

Great question. What do you think? And why?

 

[msqtech]

definitions

Fascism "A form of political behavior marked by obsessive preoccupation with community decline, humiliation or victimhood and by compensatory cults of unity, energy and purity, in which a mass-based party of committed nationalist militants, working in uneasy but effective collaboration with traditional elites, abandons democratic liberties and pursues with redemptive violence and without ethical or legal restraints goals of internal cleansing and external expansion." [Robert O. Paxton, "The Anatomy of Fascism," 2004]

Communism
Com"mu*nism\, n. [F. communisme, fr. commun common.] A scheme of equalizing the social conditions of life; specifically, a scheme which contemplates the abolition of inequalities in the possession of property, as by distributing all wealth equally to all, or by holding all wealth in common for the equal use and advantage of all.

It seems to me that is it possible for any society to be dominated by a fascist and still be within that societal scheme where to be communist requires that you be struggling to make that societal scheme work so a Fascist would actually be worse.

 

[RadioPatrol]

Fascist:

Etymology

The term fascismo was brought into popular and demeaning usage by the Italian founders of Fascism, Benito Mussolini and the Neo-Hegelian philosopher Giovanni Gentile.[19] It is derived from the Italian word fascio, which means "bundle" or "union", and from the Latin word fasces. [20] The fasces, which consisted of a bundle of rods that were rarely tied around an axe, were an ancient Roman symbol of the authority of the civic magistrates; they were carried by his Lictors and could be used for corporal and capital punishment at his command.[20] Furthermore, the symbolism of the fasces suggested strength through unity: a single rod is easily broken, while the bundle is difficult to break.[21] This is a familiar theme throughout different forms of fascism; for example the Falange symbol is a bunch of arrows joined together by a yoke.[22] In 1919 Fasci italiani di combattimento was founded and the Fascist manifesto was published, outlining Italian fascism, which was the original meaning of the term.

Definitions

Main articles: Definitions of fascism and Fascism and ideology

The popular presentation of fascism in the publications of the Western world have been radically different in the period during and after World War II than in the period from 1919 to 1939, when Benito Mussolini and the Italian fascists were widely acclaimed.[23][24] Fascism was primarily associated with the Axis powers, who fought and lost the war, so it has been difficult to provide a neutral view of the topic. Historians, political scientists, and other scholars have engaged in long and furious debates concerning the exact nature of fascism.[25] Since the 1990s, scholars like Stanley Payne, Roger Eatwell, Roger Griffin and Robert O. Paxton have begun to gather a rough consensus on the system's core tenets. While various attempts to define fascism have been made, the problem scholars often run into is that each form of fascism is different from any other, leaving many definitions as too wide or too narrow.[26][27]

Griffin wrote:

[Fascism is] a genuinely revolutionary, trans-class form of anti-liberal, and in the last analysis, anti conservative nationalism. As such it is an ideology deeply bound up with modernization and modernity, one which has assumed a considerable variety of external forms to adapt itself to the particular historical and national context in which it appears, and has drawn a wide range of cultural and intellectual currents, both left and right, anti-modern and pro-modern, to articulate itself as a body of ideas, slogans, and doctrine. In the inter-war period it manifested itself primarily in the form of an elite-led "armed party" which attempted, mostly unsuccessfully, to generate a populist mass movement through a liturgical style of politics and a programme of radical policies which promised to overcome a threat posed by international socialism, to end the degeneration affecting the nation under liberalism, and to bring about a radical renewal of its social, political and cultural life as part of what was widely imagined to be the new era being inaugurated in Western civilization. The core mobilizing myth of fascism which conditions its ideology, propaganda, style of politics and actions is the vision of the nation's imminent rebirth from decadence.[28]

According to Paxton, fascism is

a form of political behavior marked by obsessive preoccupation with community decline, humiliation or victimhood and by compensatory cults of unity, energy and purity, in which a mass-based party of committed nationalist militants, working in uneasy but effective collaboration with traditional elites, abandons democratic liberties and pursues with redemptive violence and without ethical or legal restraints goals of internal cleansing and external expansion.[29]

Political spectrum

There is no clear consensus on where fascism is on the political spectrum. Common views include that fascism is far right or that it is outside the conventional left-right spectrum. Some have argued that it is extreme centrist, and others have claimed that it belongs on the political left.

Fascism rejects the idea of class conflict in favor of class collaboration,[30] and internationalism in favor of statist nationalism.[31] In 1932, Italian fascist philosopher Giovanni Gentile described fascism as a collectivist and statist right-wing ideology:

Granted that the 19th century was the century of socialism, liberalism, democracy, this does not mean that the 20th century must also be the century of socialism, liberalism, democracy. Political doctrines pass; nations remain. We are free to believe that this is the century of authority, a century tending to the "right", a Fascist century. If the 19th century was the century of the individual (liberalism implies individualism) we are free to believe that this is the "collective" century, and therefore the century of the State.[32]

Eugen Weber places fascism on the right: "...their most common allies lay on the right, particularly on the radical authoritarian right, and Italian Fascism as a semi-coherent entity was partly defined by its merger with one of the most radical of all right authoritarian movements in Europe, the Italian Nationalist Association (ANI)."[33] Walter Laqueur says that historical fascism "did not belong to the extreme Left, yet defining it as part of the extreme Right is not very illuminating either", but that it "was always a coalition between radical, populist ('fascist') elements and others gravitating toward the extreme Right".[34] Stanley Payne notes the alliances and sometimes fusion between fascists and right-wing authoritarians, but stresses the important differences between the two.[35]

A. James Gregor argues that the most "uninspired effort to understand fascism" is to simply place it on the right-wing, or the radical right.[25] The founders of fascism in Italy included people from different parts of the political spectrum, including futurists, nationalists, ex-socialists, syndicalists and ex-anarchists.The Fascist Manifesto's initial promises included nationalization of property, but many of their policies were moderated or removed. A few advocates of laissez faire capitalism, such as Ludwig von Mises, defining socialism as any ideology that advocates a society in which the means of production are socialized, argue that Nazi Germany and Fascist Italy were socialist countries according to this definition.[36] Zeev Sternhell sees fascism as an anti-Marxist form of socialism.[37]

A number of fascist movements described themselves a "third force" that was outside the traditional political spectrum altogether. Many scholars accept fascism as a search for a third way between capitalism and communism.[38][39][40][41][42][43][44][45][46] Roger Griffin argued, "Not only does the location of fascism within the right pose taxonomic problems, there are good ground for cutting this particular Gordian knot altogether by placing it in a category of its own "beyond left and right."[44] Sir Oswald Mosley, leader of the British Union of Fascists, described his position as "hard centre" in the political spectrum.[47] Lipset sees fascism as "extremism of the center".[37]

Fascism as epithet

Main article: Fascist (epithet)

Following World War II, the word fascist has become a slur throughout the political spectrum, and since the end of the war, it has been uncommon for political groups to call themselves fascist. In contemporary political discourse, adherents of some political ideologies tend to associate fascism with their enemies, or define it as the opposite of their own views. In the post-war era, the terms fascism or neo-fascism have commonly been associated with white supremacy, anti-Semitism and racism. However, fascist movements have existed in non-white societies and racially mixed societies such as Brazil, and Japan, and arguably the former Zaire (now the Democratic Republic of Congo) under the rule of Mobutu Sese Seko.[48][49][50] Some have argued that the term fascist has become hopelessly vague over the years and that it has become little more than a pejorative epithet. George Orwell wrote in 1944:

The word ‘Fascism’ is almost entirely meaningless. In conversation, of course, it is used even more wildly than in print. I have heard it applied to farmers, shopkeepers, Social Credit, corporal punishment, fox-hunting, bull-fighting, the 1922 Committee, the 1941 Committee, Kipling, Gandhi, Chiang Kai-Shek, homosexuality, Priestley's broadcasts, Youth Hostels, astrology, women, dogs and I do not know what else... almost any English person would accept ‘bully’ as a synonym for ‘Fascist’. – George Orwell, What is Fascism?. 1944.[51]

Richard Griffiths argued in 2005 that the term fascism is the "most misused, and over-used word of our times".[27]

 

[RadioPatrol]

Communist:

Communism is a socioeconomic structure and political ideology that promotes the establishment of an egalitarian, classless, stateless society based on common ownership and control of the means of production and property in general.[1][2][3] Karl Marx posited that communism would be the final stage in human society, following a socialist stage, which would be achieved through a proletarian revolution. "Pure communism" in the Marxian sense refers to a classless, stateless and oppression-free society where decisions on what to produce and what policies to pursue are made democratically, allowing every member of society to participate in the decision-making process in both the political and economic spheres of life.

As a political ideology, Communism is usually considered to be a branch of socialism; a broad group of economic and political philosophies that draw on the various political and intellectual movements with origins in the work of theorists of the Industrial Revolution and the French Revolution.[4] Communism attempts to offer an alternative to the problems with the capitalist market economy and the legacy of imperialism and nationalism. Marx states that the only way to solve these problems is for the working class (proletariat), who according to Marx are the main producers of wealth in society and are exploited by the Capitalist-class (bourgeoisie), to replace the bourgeoisie as the ruling class in order to establish a free society, without class or racial divisions.[2] The dominant forms of communism, such as Leninism, Stalinism, Maoism and Trotskyism are based on Marxism, but non-Marxist versions of communism (such as Christian communism and anarcho-communism) also exist.

Karl Marx never provided a detailed description as to how communism would function as an economic system, but it is understood that a communist economy would consist of common ownership of the means of production, and eventually the negation of the concept of private ownership (which is not to be confused with personal possessions). Unlike socialism, which is compatible with a market economy, a communist economy consists of local or communal democratic planning.

Marxist schools of communism

Self-identified communists hold a variety of views, including Marxism-Leninism, Trotskyism, council communism, Luxemburgism, anarchist communism, Christian communism, and various currents of left communism. However, the offshoots of the Marxist-Leninist interpretations of Marxism are the most well-known of these and have been a driving force in international relations during most of the 20th century.[2]

 

[RadioPatrol]

...how many pinko, infiltrator, sleeper cell Al and his Quedas types we got around here anyway?

The story of two cows

I have come across this satirical humour. It goes like this:

DUBAI SYSTEM:
You have two cows. You create a website for them and advertise them in all the magazines. You create a Cow City or Milk Town for them. You sell off their milk before the cows have even been milked to both legit and shady investors who hope to resale the nonexistent milk for a 100% profit in two years time. You bring Tiger Woods to milk the cow first to attract attention.

QATAR SYSTEM:
You have two cows. They've been sitting there for decades and no one realized that cows could produce milk. You see what Dubai is doing; you go crazy and start milking the heck out of the cows in the shortest time possible. Then you realize no one wanted the milk in the first place.

SAUDI SYSTEM:
Since milking the cow involves nipples the Gov't decides to ban all cows in public. The only method to milk a cow is to have a cow on one side of a curtain and a guy milking the cow on the other or to hire females and train them to milk the cows ... The debate is still going on.

BAHRAIN SYSTEM:
You have two cows. Some high Gov't official steals one, milks it, sells the milk and pockets the profit. The Gov't tells you that there is just one cow and not enough milk for the people. The people riot and scream death to the Gov't and carry Iranian flags. The Parliament, after thinking for 11 month, decides to employ ten Bahrainis to all milk the cow at the same time and so cutting back on unemployment.

LEBANON SYSTEM:
You have two cows. One is owned by Syria and the other is controlled by Hizbollah.

EGYPTIAN SYSTEM:
You have two cows. Both are voting for Mobarak!

AMERICAN SYSTEM:
You have two cows. You sell one, and force the other to produce the milk of four cows. Later, you hire a consultant to analyze why the cow dropped dead.

FRENCH SYSTEM:
You have two cows. You go on strike because you wanted three cows.

RUSSIAN SYSTEM:
You have two cows. You count them and learn you have five cows. You count them again and learn you have 42 cows. You count them again and learn you have 2 cows. You stop counting cows and open another bottle of vodka.

BRITISH SYSTEM:
You have two cows. Both are mad.

PAKISTAN SYSTEM:
You have 2 cows, though there are 500 people who claim that they belong to them because either cow may or may not have stepped on their land at one stage or has a link to their family farming history.

Several people will die as a result of this argument due to shootings. The govt claims the cows and says that they are govt property but offer no explanation and as the army will come along and take them, no one will query it.

All the proceeds of the milk will go in to the pockets of the 1 or 2 govt officials from whichever department they came from. If they sold the milk to local companies then they will have sold it for an inflated price and will have actually given less milk if any at all, and will have made up some 'official explanation' for this.

Though if the customer is external ...from the UK or US then they would give the milk AND cows and will be convinced to waive the fee as it will mean 'diplomatic relations' will exist and that they will be considered an 'ally'.

AUSTRALIAN SYSTEM:

You have two cows. You give one to the Americans and one to the British and you go back to shagging sheep!

 

[RadioPatrol]

These are collected from various sources and do not represent the opinions of TheCapitol.Net. Many were contributed by visitors to a personal website 1995-1999, although others have been sent more recently and posted on Hobnob Blog. Also see "World's smartest cow - what if there were 2 of them?"

ANARCHISM: You have two cows. The cows decide you have no right to do anything with their milk and leave to form their own society.

ARISTOCRATISM: You have two cows. You sell both and buy one really big cow - with a pedigree.

ARTIST -- VISUAL: You have two cows. You stuff them and put them in glass display boxes. In London.

BRITISH -- MAJOR: You have two cows. One has BSE. You get a vet to give the other one the all clear, and then declare there is no problem from BSE in your country.

BUREAUCRACY: You have two cows. At first the government regulates what you can feed them and when you can milk them. Then it pays you not to milk them. Then it takes both, shoots one, milks the other and pours the milk down the drain. Then it requires you to fill out forms accounting for the missing cows.
CANADIANISM: You have two cows. The bank takes both of them, shoots one, throws away the milk and you shoot yourself.

CAPITALISM: You have two cows. You sell one and buy a bull.

CAPITALISM -- HONG KONG You have two cows. You sell three of them to your publicly listed company, using letters of credit opened by your brother-in-law at the bank, then execute a debt / equity swap with associated general offer so that you get all four cows back, with a tax deduction for keeping five cows. The milk rights of six cows are transferred via a Panamanian intermediary to a Cayman Islands company secretly owned by the majority shareholder, who sells the rights to all seven cows' milk back to the listed company. The annual report says that the company owns eight cows, with an option on one more. Meanwhile, you kill the two cows because the feng shui is bad.

 

[RadioPatrol]

...how many pinko, infiltrator, sleeper cell Al and his Quedas types we got around here anyway?

SUNKEN BURRITOS

1 lb. hamburger
1 pkg taco seasoning mix
1 pkg flour tortillas
1 can Hormel chili without beans
Velveeta cheese
sour cream

Brown hamburger in skillet, drain grease. Add taco seasoning packet and water as detailed on taco mix package. Simmer ingredients for approximately 15 minutes, until water is absorbed into meat, being careful not to burn.

In microwavable bowl, heat canned chili till warm.

Assembly: Spread taco meat in line on flour tortilla, wrap and place on microwavable plate, seam down. Top rolled tortilla with warmed chili, slices of Velveeta cheese on top.

Cover with plastic wrap, microwave for about 60 seconds, or until cheese melts.

Garnish with sour cream and/or shredded lettuce.

Submitted by: Marie Violette

 

[RadioPatrol]

...how many pinko, infiltrator, sleeper cell Al and his Quedas types we got around here anyway?

YANSB Recipe

Toucan Taco, an old, hole-in-the-wall family-owned and operated restaurant in Laurel, Maryland, serves some of the best and most unique Mexican food I have ever tasted. Until I was diagnosed with congestive heart failure, I had gone to Toucan Taco at least once a week for a delicious Sunken Meat Burrito. But now that I am on a low sodium diet, Toucan Taco is "off limits" to me. So I embarked on a mission to clone these sunken beauties and, after numerous “close-but-no-cigar” attempts, I did it! I have isted “regular” ingredients, but it’s incredibly easy to significantly reduce the sodium content by using reduced-sodium, low-sodium, or sodium-free beef stock, tomato paste, canned tomatoes, and tortillas.

SERVES 4 , 4 burritos (change servings and units)

Ingredients

* 4 flour tortillas, at least 9-inch diameter
* dried onion flakes
* shredded colby cheese or shredded monterey jack cheese
* hot sauce (optional)
* crumbled tostados (optional)
* sour cream (optional) or guacamole (optional)

THE FILLING

* 1 lb lean ground beef
* 1 1/2 ounces all-purpose flour
* 1 red bell pepper, roughly chopped
* 1/4 teaspoon cocoa powder
* 1 tablespoon chili powder (or more, to taste)
* 1-2 tablespoon recaito (optional)
* 1 teaspoon salt or salt substitute
* 2 ounces onions, finely chopped
* 1/2 teaspoon dried onion flakes
* 1/2 teaspoon paprika
* 1/4 teaspoon onion powder
* 1 dash garlic powder
* 3 ounces beef stock
* 1 ounce white vinegar

GRAVY FOR SINKING

* 3 tablespoons bacon fat (or cooking oil of choice)
* 1 onion, roughly chopped
* 3-4 ounces mushrooms, roughly chopped
* 3 tablespoons all-purpose flour
* 3 cups beef stock
* 6 ounces tomato paste
* 1 1/2 tablespoons Kitchen Bouquet (or Marmite, or other prepared seasoning/browning sauce)
* 1 teaspoon liquid smoke
* 1 (14 1/2 ounce) can crushed tomatoes or crushed diced tomatoes, , drained
* 2 teaspoons chili powder (or more, to taste)
* 1/2 teaspoon red pepper flakes
* 1 dash white pepper
* 3 tablespoons prepared jalapeno relish (or other hot pickle or pepper relish)
* 1 tablespoon minced onion
* 1/2 teaspoon onion powder
* 1 jalapeno pepper, finely chopped (or more, to taste)
* 6 ounces cider vinegar
* 3 ounces molasses

Directions

1. ------TheFilling--------------.
2. In a medium bowl, combine the ground beef with the flour, red pepper, chili powder, salt, minced onion, paprika, onion powder, and garlic powder.
3. DO NOT include the cocoa powder.
4. Use your hands to thoroughly mix the ingredients into the ground beef.
5. Add the seasoned beef mixture and all the liquid to a crock pot.
6. Sprinkle a little cocoa powder on the mixture.
7. Cook on low for about 2 hours.
8. Every 20 to 30 minutes, sprinkle a tiny amount of cocoa powder on the mixture, and mash with a potato masher.
9. Remove meat and water to saucepan.
10. Add refried beans, if desired.
11. Simmer gently until water evaporates.

12. ----------TheSinking Gravy---------------.
13. Melt bacon fat or oil.
14. Gently sauté chopped onion and mushrooms until tender.
15. Set this mixture aside.
16. Combine ¼ cup of the beef stock with the flour in a jar with a tight-fitting lid- shake mixture vigorously until smooth.
17. Combine stock/flour mixture with remaining stock in a heavy saucepan.
18. Add tomato paste and whisk until tomato paste is thoroughly mixed in.
19. Bring the stock mixture to a boil, and then reduce heat to low and simmer for 10-15 minutes or so, whisking frequently, until mixture begins to thicken.
20. Add all remaining ingredients as well as onion/mushroom/fat mixture.
21. Simmer until heated throughout.
22. Add salt, pepper and other spices to taste.

23.---PUTTINGIT ALL TOGETHER----.
24. Preheat oven to 375 degrees.
25. Place 3 to 4 ounces of beef or beef/bean mixture in the center of each tortilla.
26. Sprinkle minced onion and then cheese, generously, on top of beef.
27. Fold the filled tortillas into oblong burritos.
28. Place each burrito, folded side down, into an 8" x 4" baking pan OR place all the burritos into a baking pan large enough to accommodate them without letting them touch one another.
29. Pour gravy into baking pan until burrito is barely covered.
30. Sprinkle more cheese, generously, on top of each burrito.
31. Bake for 15 to 20 minutes OR bake 10 to 15 minutes and then broil until cheese is bubbling.
32. Add hot sauce, crumbled tostados, sour cream and/or guacamole, if desired.
33. Serve with a taco salad (or other salad of your choice) on the side.

 

[Xaquin44]

my god.

copied and pasted.





in my soul.

 

[Larry Gude]

my god.

copied and pasted.





in my soul.

You can fake it by getting whatever frozen burritos any decent American has stocked up on and putting two of them in a BAB (big ass bowl) nuke 'em 1/2 way to ready, then bury them in two cans of Hormel (no beans, of course) and a can of some cheap azz re-fried beans and nuke them the rest of the way, stirring a couple times to keep the edges of the burritos from becoming stone then put about 8 pounds of whatever shredded cheddar/Mexican/3cheese you have for another minute. Let it sit for a couple minutes so as not to burn the total crap out of your mouth.

Then, get you a BAS (big as spoon) a couple of beers and feed.

 

[Xaquin44]

mmmmm