Ethnic Cleansing in The Dominican Republic

GURPS

GURPS

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horrors brown people killing brown people .... no body cares unless its a white person
 
migtig

migtig

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I've been to the DR. As you fly over, you see Haiti - desolate and barren, and then you see the DR, lush and green.

While I was there, I discussed some tourist options with the hotel and American Express and was warned about driving towards Haiti. When we went to a cigar place run by a Dutch immigrant, he too warned us of the Haitians. Haitians were considered by many to be criminals/thugs/bandits, who would illegally cross into the DR and rob, rape, murder, kidnap, extort and wantonly destroy.

For all of the DRs initiatives (bringing in business, protection of the interior and vital resources, etc), it's still a third world country. So think how justice would be dispensed if you caught an aforementioned criminal. :shrug:

I think your article is slanted and skewed and cannot give it full consideration. However, it is not the responsibility of the people of the DR to care for, feed, clothe, etc. the Haitian people and any criminals in their country illegally. IMHO, it's not our responsibility either.
 
Gilligan

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Amused_despair said:
Jesus would say "take care of them as if they were I" But then again, Jesus isn't a capitalist with bills to pay.
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Last I checked..the bills have to be paid by somebody that knows how to make and manage money..or it will be all gone and everyone in the terlit.

Is that person you?....there might be a Nobel Prize in your future.
 
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Gilligan said:
Last I checked..the bills have to be paid by somebody that knows how to make and manage money..or it will be all gone and everyone in the terlit.

Is that person you?....there might be a Nobel Prize in your future.
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Jesus said "trust in the Lord; to provide for you", but I agree with you. Bills are more important
 
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This_person

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Amused_despair said:
Jesus said "trust in the Lord; to provide for you", but I agree with you. Bills are more important
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So, are you suggesting that the church (Christians only), be held legally responsible? Or, are you suggesting laws be based on religious texts? Why are you quoting Jesus on a legal issue?
 
Gilligan

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This_person said:
So, are you suggesting that the church (Christians only), be held legally responsible? Or, are you suggesting laws be based on religious texts? Why are you quoting Jesus on a legal issue?
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I took it to mean that there is a Jesus charge card with no spending limit.:lmao: Be interesting to see which merchants accept it.
 
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Hey I am just agreeing with you all, forget about worrying about your soul by ignoring the plight of those in need, worry about your wallet. Don't use that money you worked so hard for to those who need shelter, pay for that third TV in the gust room instead. That is what Jesus meant I think. After all what was the reply when Chuckt said that no matter what the story behind the persecution, there were 200,000 people in need?
 
Gilligan

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Amused_despair said:
Hey I am just agreeing with you all, forget about worrying about your soul by ignoring the plight of those in need, worry about your wallet.
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1. There are millions of people in need. Tens of millions.

2. Who are you to assume you know what any of us does to help people in need?

3. Worry about your own soul. I'll do the worrying about mine.

4. And no. Chuck tried to make it about "ethnic cleansing". That always has a louder "ring" to it.
 
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I am just agreeing with you and applauding your stand against celestial bullying. After all, in the "religious" forum is the best place to respond to someone asking what to do about people in need by saying "so find a place to put them, chuck". I am just agreeing with how you are interpreting what Jesus meant when he talked about us caring for those in need. When you argue with someone agreeing with you aren't you really arguing with yourself?
 
Gilligan

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Amused_despair said:
I am just agreeing with you and applauding your stand against celestial bullying. After all, in the "religious" forum is the best place to respond to someone asking what to do about people in need by saying "so find a place to put them, chuck". I am just agreeing with how you are interpreting what Jesus meant when he talked about us caring for those in need. When you argue with someone agreeing with you aren't you really arguing with yourself?
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:patonhead: It's OK..ole Chuck needs someone in his corner for a change. Good for you.
 
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No Sir, good on you for taking a stand against the constant wailing for attention by all these needy people. I applaud your embracing of true Christian values.
 
This_person

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Amused_despair said:
No Sir, good on you for taking a stand against the constant wailing for attention by all these needy people. I applaud your embracing of true Christian values.
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Given that the church, voluntarily funded by willing donors and unpaid volunteers, does more charitable work than any government agency ever attempted, I agree that good Christian help is warranted for those in need. And, they're likely getting more from that type of sourcing than any government will ever provide.

In my opinion, that is why Jesus taught us to render unto (the government) that which is (the government's), etc.

However, in reality, someone must pay for the food, clothing, and shelter. While Christians can and do provide for their fellow man more than any other voluntary entity on earth, there must be a way to do so.

I have always found it interesting that progressives and atheists (but, I repeat myself) like to quote scripture as if the way government should respond to things is by listening to the words of religion, yet will be the first to decry any religious person's attempt to suggest laws be based on the exact same thing. That's why I ask you, do you think government should respond by following the instructions from Jesus? Or, do you feel that is best left to individuals to do voluntarily within their belief systems and government should not be involved?
 
hotcoffee

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This_person said:
Given that the church, voluntarily funded by willing donors and unpaid volunteers, does more charitable work than any government agency ever attempted, I agree that good Christian help is warranted for those in need. And, they're likely getting more from that type of sourcing than any government will ever provide.

In my opinion, that is why Jesus taught us to render unto (the government) that which is (the government's), etc.

However, in reality, someone must pay for the food, clothing, and shelter. While Christians can and do provide for their fellow man more than any other voluntary entity on earth, there must be a way to do so.

I have always found it interesting that progressives and atheists (but, I repeat myself) like to quote scripture as if the way government should respond to things is by listening to the words of religion, yet will be the first to decry any religious person's attempt to suggest laws be based on the exact same thing. That's why I ask you, do you think government should respond by following the instructions from Jesus? Or, do you feel that is best left to individuals to do voluntarily within their belief systems and government should not be involved?
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Here's the way I see it. If you know someone that needs your help.... do it. If you can help that person and spread the Word.... even telling people how good it feels to help someone... then more people will do something nice for someone else.... pay it forward. That seemed to work for Jesus.

Should the government help? Humans came up with the big idea of kings. Government outside of the church was never what God had in mind for us. Humans kept asking God for a government so He let them have it. If people put in money through their taxes to be used for Humanitarian or Social Services Programs, then the government should be spending it there.

Should the government stop the church from helping out? Why would they?

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This_person

This_person

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hotcoffee said:
Here's the way I see it. If you know someone that needs your help.... do it. If you can help that person and spread the Word.... even telling people how good it feels to help someone... then more people will do something nice for someone else.... pay it forward. That seemed to work for Jesus.

Should the government help? Humans came up with the big idea of kings. Government outside of the church was never what God had in mind for us. Humans kept asking God for a government so He let them have it. If people put in money through their taxes to be used for Humanitarian or Social Services Programs, then the government should be spending it there.

Should the government stop the church from helping out? Why would they?

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I don't believe that the government should stop the church. That would be nonsensical.
 
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