EU [Germany] wants to break up Google .......

[GURPS]

German official mulls breaking up Google


On Thursday, some 400 companies—including major German and French publishers—announced they were submitting a new anti-trust complaint against Google. The grouping, calling itself Open Internet Project, alleges that Google promotes its own products in search results at the expense of rivals.

Gabriel's spokesman Stefan Rouenhoff said Friday that the Economy Ministry was examining various aspects of Google's business, including also its compliance with privacy rules and its use of legal tax-reduction measures that have irked European governments.

He stressed that a breakup of Google and other Internet companies, while legally possible, would be difficult.

"With a breakup of Google the global dimension would naturally raise questions of enforceability," Rouenhoff told reporters in Berlin. "Such a procedure would take a certain amount of time."

Rouenhoff indicated that instead of breaking up a company Germany seek to introduce new rules at the level of EU anti-trust regulation requiring companies like Google to guarantee that rivals feature in search results.

 

[Larry Gude]

Kewl. I support this. It is time to start breaking up some of these hideous monsters. Goldman and the others, Google, MS, BP, anything with more than 150 employees, chop it down.

 

[GURPS]

Kewl. I support this. It is time to start breaking up some of these hideous monsters. Goldman and the others, Google, MS, BP, anything with more than 150 employees, chop it down.

really ....

 

[Larry Gude]

really ....

Yeah. I prefer a land of lots and lots of little kings to a land of a few kings and lots and lots of serfs...

 

[Merlin99]

Kewl. I support this. It is time to start breaking up some of these hideous monsters. Goldman and the others, Google, MS, BP, anything with more than 150 employees, chop it down.

There's already multiple search engines, why would making twenty baby googles help anything?

 

[GURPS]

google isn't just a search engine .... but yeah there is more than ONE Web portal

MSN
Yahoo

...

 

[Larry Gude]

There's already multiple search engines, why would making twenty baby googles help anything?

Google is too ####ing big. Period.

 

[Merlin99]

Google is too ####ing big. Period.

So you want to punish success?

 

[GURPS]

Google - 1.1 billion
Bing - 350 Million
Yahoo Search - 300 Million
Ask - 145 Million
AOL Search - 75 Million
WOW - 66 Million
Web Crawler 65 Million [who knew they were still around]
My Web Search - 60 Million
Infospace - 24 Million
Info - 13.5 Million




at one time AOL was the King for Internet Service Providers, now look at them .....

Comcast
AT&T
Time Warner Cable
Century Link
Charter
Verizon
Cox
Optimum
Frontier
Suddenlink
Earthlink
Windstream
Cable One
NetZero
Juno
AOL

 

[Larry Gude]

So you want to punish success?

At what point, or, is there a point, where success becomes abuse? I'll wait for a reply but, keep in mind Standard oil, just for starters. Or Goldman or Morgan or...

There is a point when a concern is playing fair, working hard, innovating, being good to folks, vendors, customers, neighbors, the community, competing, successfully. Then, when enough competition has been beaten, the whole thing changes and you become big enough to start dictating. Then, you become even bigger. Then, everything you do, cause people to die, pollution, abuses, fraud, you become big enough and enough people invested in you that you are immune to ALL the rules and problems of when you were small.

Sorry. I couldn't wait.

 

[GURPS]

I'll repeat myself, what about AOL ..
... they don't even make the top 10 anymore

 

[Merlin99]

At what point, or, is there a point, where success becomes abuse? I'll wait for a reply but, keep in mind Standard oil, just for starters. Or Goldman or Morgan or...

There is a point when a concern is playing fair, working hard, innovating, being good to folks, vendors, customers, neighbors, the community, competing, successfully. Then, when enough competition has been beaten, the whole thing changes and you become big enough to start dictating. Then, you become even bigger. Then, everything you do, cause people to die, pollution, abuses, fraud, you become big enough and enough people invested in you that you are immune to ALL the rules and problems of when you were small.

Sorry. I couldn't wait.

there is no point, so the rest of this is moot.

 

[Larry Gude]

I'll repeat myself, what about AOL ..
... they don't even make the top 10 anymore

Is there a point to respond to????

I liked it when there were 1,000's of little ISP's all over the place, little grocery stores, little doctors offices, little gas stations, little garden centers.

For all the shortcomings of 'small', every single one of them was still beholden to their customers, directly. They were people.
Too Big To Fail is more efficient, cheaper, better and inhuman. People are nothing but numbers on a spreadsheet.

 

[Larry Gude]

there is no point, so the rest of this is moot.

Ok, good enough. We've at least set a starting point of disagreement.

 

[Merlin99]

Ok, good enough. We've at least set a starting point of disagreement.

You either believe in capitalism or you don't.

 

[GURPS]

I liked it when there were 1,000's of little ISP's all over the place, little grocery stores, little doctors offices, little gas stations, little garden centers.

For all the shortcomings of 'small', every single one of them was still beholden to their customers, directly. They were people.
Too Big To Fail is more efficient, cheaper, better and inhuman. People are nothing but numbers on a spreadsheet.

right because you were going to get some personal response from

Radio Shack for your TRS - 80' Commodore for your C-64, Atari 2600, Mattel Intelivision


some items required a business larger than 3 guys in a Garage 'home' building a Personal Computer ......

Oil companies ... are you going to refine your own gasoline

groceries have to come from somewhere .... even though mom and pop sell the goods

 

[Larry Gude]

right because you were going to get some personal response from

Radio Shack for your TRS - 80' Commodore for your C-64, Atari 2600, Mattel Intelivision


some items required a business larger than 3 guys in a Garage 'home' building a Personal Computer ......

Oil companies ... are you going to refine your own gasoline

groceries have to come from somewhere .... even though mom and pop sell the goods

Do you want everything to come from one entity?

 

[GURPS]

Do you want everything to come from one entity?

ofc not .... I am not saying that .... NOT Everything can be provided by mom and pop

do you want to go back to a Harley Davidson side valve w/ 31 Cu and 4.3 HP

 

[Larry Gude]

ofc not .... I am not saying that .... NOT Everything can be provided by mom and pop

do you want to go back to a Harley Davidson side valve w/ 31 Cu and 4.3 HP

You presume that's where we'd be absent giant corporations. The facts are quite different. Big doesn't innovate. Big doesn't take chances. Big doesn't try new ways. Big bullies its way. Big crams down your throat what they want. Big gets congress to mandate bulbs far more harmful to the environment than what we had in the name of the environment. Big is HD being able to sell lesser bikes simply because of marketing and branding.

 

[czygvtwkr]

You presume that's where we'd be absent giant corporations. The facts are quite different. Big doesn't innovate. Big doesn't take chances. Big doesn't try new ways. Big bullies its way. Big crams down your throat what they want. Big gets congress to mandate bulbs far more harmful to the environment than what we had in the name of the environment. Big is HD being able to sell lesser bikes simply because of marketing and branding.

Every big corporation started out as a small corporation at one point in time.