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vraiblonde

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IMO if we support Bush or Christie we are supporting a Democrat who who lies about their party affiliation.

Again, they are the elected representatives and party leaders. THEY are the Republicans. If you disagree with their politics, it is you who are the RINO with the incorrect party affiliation.

The Constitution Party, however, is looking for a few good men.
 
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Hijinx

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Again, they are the elected representatives and party leaders. THEY are the Republicans. If you disagree with their politics, it is you who are the RINO with the incorrect party affiliation.

The Constitution Party, however, is looking for a few good men.

How many have they ever elected to high office in this government.
 

This_person

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So you feel that if we do not support Bush, Christie or the other Democrats in drag we are supporting the Democrats.
IMO if we support Bush or Christie we are supporting a Democrat who who lies about their party affiliation.

I see little difference.

Do you believe McCain and Obama would have had essentially no difference to the country? That we'd have "McCaincare"?
 
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Hodr

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Republican used to = Fiscal, Small Gov. Conservative ..... not so much anymore
so yes, those of us that still want a limited gov. and claim to be Republican are the RINO's

Only if you conveniently forget about the first 50 years of the Republican party and the first 8 Republican presidents (Lincoln through TR). Back then the Republican party stood for larger government, creating and expanding social services, expanding civil rights, tightly regulating business (and fighting monopolies), and increasing taxes. Hell Lincoln invented the damn income tax.
 

GURPS

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Only if you conveniently forget about the first 50 years of the Republican party ....



were you living in the time of Lincoln ?


I wasn't
.... I am talking about since the late 1970's when I became aware of politics
 

kom526

They call me ... Sarcasmo
So you feel that if we do not support Bush, Christie or the other Democrats in drag we are supporting the Democrats.
IMO if we support Bush or Christie we are supporting a Democrat who who lies about their party affiliation.

I see little difference.

If I lie about my party affiliation, can I be in charge of the DNC? It worked for that lady up on Spokane.
 

Hijinx

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If I lie about my party affiliation, can I be in charge of the DNC? It worked for that lady up on Spokane.

I don't see why not. Boehner and McConnell lied about being Republicans and look at where they are.
 

This_person

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Certainly we learn It's one reason I am against Bush, Graham,Ryan, and Christie.

Given the choice of Gov Christie and Sec Clinton, for whom would you vote? I think part of the problem is that if that is the choice, people like you would probably still bash at every possible turn the likes of Christie, likely giving the win to Clinton. I believe the counter argument is get Christie and try and push him to the right.

The third argument is to vote for Humple Glottenfirst, because you agree with Humple 85% of the time. Which, of course, is also voting for a Clinton presidency.
 

LibertyBeacon

Unto dust we shall return
Given the choice of Gov Christie and Sec Clinton, for whom would you vote? I think part of the problem is that if that is the choice, people like you would probably still bash at every possible turn the likes of Christie, likely giving the win to Clinton. I believe the counter argument is get Christie and try and push him to the right.

The third argument is to vote for Humple Glottenfirst, because you agree with Humple 85% of the time. Which, of course, is also voting for a Clinton presidency.

Right. And this is the reason we continue to get crap for elected officials. The lesser of two evils is still evil. I hope it works out for you eventually though.
 

Midnightrider

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Given the choice of Gov Christie and Sec Clinton, for whom would you vote? I think part of the problem is that if that is the choice, people like you would probably still bash at every possible turn the likes of Christie, likely giving the win to Clinton. I believe the counter argument is get Christie and try and push him to the right.

The third argument is to vote for Humple Glottenfirst, because you agree with Humple 85% of the time. Which, of course, is also voting for a Clinton presidency.
That logic is going to get you more McCain, Romney and bushes while still watching Hillary get elected. Its not people bashing Christie that is the problem. The problem is that those who will bash him will then vote for him as soon as the GOP tells them too.

BTW, using your logic you voted for Obama, twice.
 

This_person

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Right. And this is the reason we continue to get crap for elected officials. The lesser of two evils is still evil. I hope it works out for you eventually though.

Do you vote for someone besides yourself? I presume you agree with you the vast majority of the time, but it's fair to also presume you pick and choose issues that are important from other-than-major party candidates and go with the one with whom you most agree. Assuming that you do not agree with anyone 100% of the time (a fair assumption), but only go with the people you agree with the most, than you are also picking the lesser of evils. It's simply a matter of practicality. Aside from Perot, who never really had a chance to win, there hasn't been a third-party candidate that could do anything but screw-over another candidate. Not enough people will join the "vote for Humple" campaign - that's just a practical reality.

If you choose to continue to vote for someone who will ensure the greater of two evils is in office, further declining the country at the more rapid rate, that is obviously your choice. It's not mine.

The primary is where your philosophy should be enforced. Pick the best of the field of actual potential winners (Humple, sadly, will never win), and push for that person to get into the real race, and push that person on the subjects that made you go for Humple in the first place. That's my practical advise.
 

Hijinx

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Do you vote for someone besides yourself? I presume you agree with you the vast majority of the time, but it's fair to also presume you pick and choose issues that are important from other-than-major party candidates and go with the one with whom you most agree. Assuming that you do not agree with anyone 100% of the time (a fair assumption), but only go with the people you agree with the most, than you are also picking the lesser of evils. It's simply a matter of practicality. Aside from Perot, who never really had a chance to win, there hasn't been a third-party candidate that could do anything but screw-over another candidate. Not enough people will join the "vote for Humple" campaign - that's just a practical reality.

If you choose to continue to vote for someone who will ensure the greater of two evils is in office, further declining the country at the more rapid rate, that is obviously your choice. It's not mine.

The primary is where your philosophy should be enforced. Pick the best of the field of actual potential winners (Humple, sadly, will never win), and push for that person to get into the real race, and push that person on the subjects that made you go for Humple in the first place. That's my practical advise.

I suppose the real problem is that Republican voters Have minds and Democrats do not. Democrats vote for the machine.
It doesn't matter to them about ethics, morality.corruption or whether or not the body was buried at Ft. Marcy.
They vote for the machine.
Republicans know the leadership sucks, but the states that the leadership comes from keep returning their incumbents and they continue to suck.

I would love to join a third party.but there isn't one with a snowballs chance of winning.

If we had a legitimate government Hillary Clinton would be in jail and unable to run.
 

This_person

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I'd be fine with a second party.

Right. And this is the reason we continue to get crap for elected officials. The lesser of two evils is still evil. I hope it works out for you eventually though.

Do you vote for someone besides yourself? I presume you agree with you the vast majority of the time, but it's fair to also presume you pick and choose issues that are important from other-than-major party candidates and go with the one with whom you most agree. Assuming that you do not agree with anyone 100% of the time (a fair assumption), but only go with the people you agree with the most, than you are also picking the lesser of evils. It's simply a matter of practicality. Aside from Perot, who never really had a chance to win, there hasn't been a third-party candidate that could do anything but screw-over another candidate. Not enough people will join the "vote for Humple" campaign - that's just a practical reality.

If you choose to continue to vote for someone who will ensure the greater of two evils is in office, further declining the country at the more rapid rate, that is obviously your choice. It's not mine.

The primary is where your philosophy should be enforced. Pick the best of the field of actual potential winners (Humple, sadly, will never win), and push for that person to get into the real race, and push that person on the subjects that made you go for Humple in the first place. That's my practical advise.
 
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