I did not see this "biggest #####" tread. Point me in the general direction. TIA.Andys mind is somewhere else this week, heck he has a couple of threads going out there, people trying to get him laid, girls fighting over him, who's the biggest ##### on the forums, his plate is quite full at the moment.
Harvick's been sucking this year.
He hasn't done anything in anything this season.
I see Joe Gibbs is having Tony race the 20 cars the next few races. That's right Joe, don't let the development driver develop by running the Nationwide Series, just send in your pro drivers to run the amateur series.
I hate to say it needs to go this far, but NASCAR needs to ban Cup owners and drivers from running in Nationwide.
Harvick's been sucking this year.
He hasn't done anything in anything this season.
I see Joe Gibbs is having Tony race the 20 cars the next few races. That's right Joe, don't let the development driver develop by running the Nationwide Series, just send in your pro drivers to run the amateur series.
I hate to say it needs to go this far, but NASCAR needs to ban Cup owners and drivers from running in Nationwide.
It hurts NASCAR in the long run.
Cup drivers - 5 races
It hurts NASCAR in the long run.
Where's NASCAR going to find its talent? The Busch... oh wait, Camping World East Racing Series?
I like to watch the up-and-coming drivers. I'm a huge Joey Logano fan. I'm a huge Alli Owens fan. Joey's won in Camping World East, he's won in ARCA, he's even won in Nationwide Series. So what's next? He's gotta sit there and wait to be able to run another Nationwide Series.
Effing Stephen Leicht is a BACKUP DRIVER for Clint Bowyer...in Nationwide. He's got a Nationwide Series win and several top-fives, but no more possiblities.
We're starting to reach a point where drivers rise through their careers to the doorsteps of Nationwide, can't get a good ride and don't get the chance to make their way to Cup. Independent teams can only run one or two races before being run off by the big teams. Gilliland's team won a race before being bought out and shut down by Robert Yates.
There's no competition anymore. I'm all for getting fans' butts into the seats, but it reaches a point where there's no crop of talent anymore.
The Nationwide Series standalone events at Kentucky, Nashville, Milwaukee, Memphis and Gateway have done just fine for years without Spitcup drivers running in those races. We used to go to the Miami Busch Series race every year, and only a handful of Cup drivers raced there.
It's really a shame that here I am looking forward to being able to watch the up-and-comers race at New Jersey in an ARCA race. I don't even go to the Nationwide races anymore. When I do, I usually end up leaving early unless a NW driver has a shot at finishing in the top-five. But, I just can't wait to see Alli Owens, Scott Speed, Matt Carter, Matt Hawkins, Ricky Steinhouse, Justin Lofton and all the other up-and-comers race at New Jersey Motorsports Park. Plus, it'll be my first road course race and first Sports Car Club of America race the day after...
Where do you draw the line with the Cuppers?
Really?
If this doesn't prove my point, than nothing will.... 
Every single time NASCAR goes there, the criticism is amped up and the writers and bloggers ask the same thing: Why does Auto Club Speedway have 2 dates? If you have a decent short track, you're going to have butts in the seats every single race you run. Look at Virginia Motor Speedway and Eldora Speedway. When it comes to racing, the thing that sells tickets is the racing action. If your track doesn't put on a good show, fans will not come.
Which is why Bruton Smith wants to take a date from Dover or Atlanta and move it to Kentucky, right?
Really?
Joey Logano is sponsored by GameStop.
Alli Owens - ElectrifyingCareers.com, NECA
Chrissy Wallace - GEICO
Michael McDowell - Aaron's
Scott Speed - Red Bull
Michael Waltrip is sponsored by NAPA for chrissake.
Sponsors want someone who's marketable, someone who they can sell their product to, someone who investors will take a liking to. Sponsors want someone who will show up to their conventions and their big sponsorship events and will mention them on television win or lose.
Fans like the same respect from a driver. Why do you think Kenny Wallace, Bill Elliott, Dale Earnhardt Jr., and Ken Schrader are so popular? Wouldn't you agree that Wild Thing would have a lot more fans if he wasn't such a pompous ass all the time?
The other thing that sells is good hard racing. Richmond sells out every single time we go there. You know why? It's the action track, and action is guaranteed.
Go to a track like Fontana. They're in a large market, they have all the big names racing, and they can't even sell 80,000 friggin' tickets. Why? The racing sucks.
The biggest problem for the Nationwide Series is the fans are slowly dissenegrating. The series has no identity. Sponsorship rights for the title of the series sold for half of what NASCAR wanted, and the fans are complaining more than ever about Nationwide Series races being boring. Now, I'm a long time racing fan, and the Nationwide Series used to be the most exciting series in NASCAR. Well, not anymore.
Which is why Bruton Smith wants to take a date from Dover or Atlanta and move it to Kentucky, right?
- Seating Capacity: 75,000 - Seating Capacity: 92,000 - Seating Capacity: 81,687 - Seating Capacity: 76,812
Nope.
Wanna bet?
My league, my rules.
Call me Brian France.
You better be tallying up the results yourself then. Or at least beat me to it.
