Ferguson Grand Jury, Your opinion

Hijinx

Well-Known Member
To be fair, in the press conference I saw the words were, "we expect there to be...". There was no promise of an announcement.
Honestly I don't know if they are still looking at evidence, discussing the evidence or simply twiddling their thumbs.
But what I do believe to be true, is the words were, "we expect". There was not hard and fast date announced.

One day they will have to sh*t or get off the pot.

Then they can get on with the riots.
 

b23hqb

Well-Known Member
One day they will have to sh*t or get off the pot.

Then they can get on with the riots.

They aren't looking at any evidence - they just want to get as far away as possible without any identification (which is justified) before their correct decision hits the proverbial fan. No doubt someone in the county system will attempt to leak Grand Jury members names and addresses to the media and public.

IMHO, of course.
 

Bay_Kat

Tropical
This evening on FOX they showed new pictures of the cop and they weren't very good so I couldn't tell if they were saying he was beat up or not. I hate when they do that.
 

mamatutu

mama to two
No indictment.
Early Christmas shopping.
In the news as long as MSM thinks it is useful to the liberals and our illustrious leader.
Does anyone care that Michael's mom was arrested for robbery and assault? There have been on going skirmishes even with no decision handed down yet.
Do these same people cry for their brethren being killed by each other every day in places like Chicago?

Racism is a one way street, and one that these 'protesters' want to burn down. They don't need an
excuse. Period.
 
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vince77

Active Member
Brian Williams (NBC) was doing his part to gin up the neighborhood tonight describing Brown as an unarmed teenager.
 

acommondisaster

Active Member
Brian Williams (NBC) was doing his part to gin up the neighborhood tonight describing Brown as an unarmed teenager.

The local Fox5 channel ALWAYS refers to it as "Officer Wilson, who shot unarmed teenager...." for weeks. I cringe every time I hear it.
 

protectmd

New Member
Indictment - No

Federal Civil Rights Charges to be filed - No

Early Christmas rampage - Yes, and with expansion of violence to other major cities and minority communities on various levels throughout America. If you fools haven't looked around, hoodrat madness has expanded with flash riots anywhere, anytime, able and willing to overwhelm law enforcement resources. Imagine a crowd of 2000+ headed to Tyson's Corner to overrun the mall there, the usual garbage, assaults, theft, vandalism, arson, beatdowns, etc. Imagine what would happen if there were 20+ days of riots after the decision... and most states went into "states of emergency." Imagine what would happen if the usual crowd numbering in the thousands started running through DC and then started towards the nearest white communities with ill intent. I think the violence will be there in Ferguson, St. Louis, and beyond. Expect nationwide mayhem as people use it to send an axe through the nearest window of a cop car or reasons to jump the nearest white guy for a perceived conspiracy theory. I personally think though that if the police don't get a handle on it all, people are going to start to fight back, and you'll see war erupt, anarchy.

Days in news - As long as it takes to bring sh*t under control and rebuild. Possibly as long as it takes to milk the snot out of the ratings that fuel the insanity on the streets.
 

Larry Gude

Strung Out
Indictment - No

Federal Civil Rights Charges to be filed - No

Early Christmas rampage - Yes, and with expansion of violence to other major cities and minority communities on various levels throughout America. If you fools haven't looked around, hoodrat madness has expanded with flash riots anywhere, anytime, able and willing to overwhelm law enforcement resources. Imagine a crowd of 2000+ headed to Tyson's Corner to overrun the mall there, the usual garbage, assaults, theft, vandalism, arson, beatdowns, etc. Imagine what would happen if there were 20+ days of riots after the decision... and most states went into "states of emergency." Imagine what would happen if the usual crowd numbering in the thousands started running through DC and then started towards the nearest white communities with ill intent. I think the violence will be there in Ferguson, St. Louis, and beyond. Expect nationwide mayhem as people use it to send an axe through the nearest window of a cop car or reasons to jump the nearest white guy for a perceived conspiracy theory. I personally think though that if the police don't get a handle on it all, people are going to start to fight back, and you'll see war erupt, anarchy.

Days in news - As long as it takes to bring sh*t under control and rebuild. Possibly as long as it takes to milk the snot out of the ratings that fuel the insanity on the streets.

:lol: Based on what? People who sit in little lives, frustrated, hopeless, yet free to leave any time they like and go anywhere in the nation to seek a better life and don't. Year after year after year. Content, generationally, to, in effect, sit in their dirty diapers blaming someone else, are now going to become organized and motivated and go do something about it? Load up and drive to some mall and take their show on the road?

Will there be random attacks and incidents? Sure. How is that going to mean a damn thing amongst the debris of the other daily incidents in these areas where violence, death, is a daily thing?
How does it follow that people who won't get up and do for themselves are going to go get up and do for some symbolic kid who thought it would be a good idea to attack a cop?

Will there be agitators, will there be people trying to get something started? Sure. But, what will sustain it? The riots of 46 years ago in the aftermath of Dr. Kings murder had real energy behind them. Real motivation based on real injustice. I have no doubt that the people of Ferguson are frustrated and do feel put upon but, 46 years ago there was no black president, no black attorney general and half the cops trying to keep order were not black. At some point, all of the understanding and sympathy of 46 years ago, the complete lack of it today given the realities that ALL of us, in general, are suffering under our governments policies, especially economic ones. will illustrate the emptiness of this thing and how , if there is anyone to be pissed at, he is sitting, a black man, in a little house on 1600 Pennsylvania Ave, Washington, DC.

The LA riots, there was something to them, the antagonism of a virtually all white police force, the irritants of crack, the time and place. Even those riots didn't last long nor were exportable into some sort of wider social war.

You people would do well to look at the broader context here. Society has been about lowering the bar for two generations now. As such, the problems of being a minority have spread, the necessity needing to know someone, of getting a break, as immigration and productivity increases have narrowed opportunity for the middle and lower classes. It's not just black folks idled these last 6 years. It's not just black folks feeling frustration and not seeing much of a future. It's not just black folks who don't trust the government any more. It's not just black folks who have trouble with the American dream being off limits.

Under Barack Obama, we're all niggas now.
 

Pushrod

Patriot
No, people are just too lazy to bother to stand up for whatever they believe in, no matter how misguided, and too mind-numbed by all the video games, reality tv and sports to give a #### about anything of importance. In other words this nation has turned into a conglomerate of lazy idiots.

The caveate to that is that those who think society always owes them something for nothing will take an opportunity, when it presents itself, to steal stuff by looting, and only when they have the cover of a bunch of like-minded lazy idiots.
 

Larry Gude

Strung Out
No, people are just too lazy to bother to stand up for whatever they believe in, no matter how misguided, and too mind-numbed by all the video games, reality tv and sports to give a #### about anything of importance. In other words this nation has turned into a conglomerate of lazy idiots.

The caveate to that is that those who think society always owes them something for nothing will take an opportunity, when it presents itself, to steal stuff by looting, and only when they have the cover of a bunch of like-minded lazy idiots.

Yes, but, said looting and uprisings will soon be replaced by returning to victim state. Uprising takes effort and thought and commitment.
 

protectmd

New Member
The LA riots, there was something to them, the antagonism of a virtually all white police force, the irritants of crack, the time and place. Even those riots didn't last long nor were exportable into some sort of wider social war.

You need to consider several things.

LA riots while at first were against the white man. Then it it was about retaliation. By the 3rd day though, it was an orgy of violence, with no racial division, but more of a pissed off city burning itself alive. If you look back to the LA riots, the national guard and police could not control what went on. They called in the marines from Pendleton after several days because it was so out of control, and it was only then that it all came to an end. You speak of how blacks have Barry as president, and Holder as AG, and all of these other things, how much advanced they are. The reality is, he hasn't done anything for minority communities, and they have realized that. Sure people were excited that he was black and elected to office, but most are seeing that he isn't doing anything to make their lives better.

Look at occupy. That didn't fizzle out over night, it became a reason to fight and argue with police, with ridiculous images of cops beating the snot out of crazed veterans dressed in partial military uniforms, dragging modern day hippies out of parks, and the right to protest vs's the right to maintain sanitation and cleanliness in city parks. Occupy had alot of support too.. from people both on the right and the left. The reality is that America, the "American dream" is gone. The jobs are taken by illegals, this is why minorities and high school kids can't go out and find a job. No matter how hard you work, you can't get ahead. All of the money and programs set aside by the government are on the brink of collapse. But worst of all, the banks, the financial officials entrusted with peoples money are swindling, sneaking, snaking people out of their money, while their CEO's get richer and richer, as the country collapses around them.

Lets look at the present day majority black community. Are they better off than they were during the civil rights era? No. In fact, theres a struggle within, between those who want to work, move up and out, and those who do not. Their communities are often plagued by violence, often perpetrated by their own neighbors. The idea of "family" is long gone, sometimes several generations back, with kids raising kids, kids raised in foster homes, no order, structure or anything. Drug trade and government dependence is a mainstay in many of these communities, gangs rule the streets, and everyone there is sold some sort of "idea" on "what needs to happen" but often nothing is actually done. The police often have an idea of what "needs" to happen, but either way them or the government is doomed in their plans. Locking up drug dealers = taking away fathers and brothers, loss of income, etc. Not locking up dealers = more turf/business based violence/killings, more poison sold on playgrounds and in schools, etc. Barry promised to fix this never ending cycle of destruction that occurs there, but he knows he can't. He understands what goes on there, but he doesn't care, theres no plan to fix this cycle and he knows it. They now know it too. Much of the frustration vented towards police there, is based on the fact that the police often come in and take said bad guys away, but it takes away incomes, it takes away role models and fathers, it doesn't fix the "problem." There aren't any decent jobs, theres no job training available, and even if there was, many cannot afford cars to get to work, or day care like other modern families. In some houses, the only reason the water and power is still on is because its illegal for power companies and water suppliers to shut it off in some areas. Social services is tapped to the brink, foster homes have become "group homes" and defacto modern day orphanages. There is no system of crime and punishment, because the courts are so liberal that its literally a revolving door for many offenders. These communities literally exist in a hot zone for this reason, filled with part 1 violent repeat offenders, high concentrations of murderers, violent sex offenders, and robbers/carjackers.

As a result of all of this, there is rage and frustration. Sheer anger towards the government and police for trying to put a band aid on this. The younger and older ones condone them going out, protesting, and even resorting to violence against the occupying government force. Gangs see it as a chance to take a shot at cops. Even the more vocal and political of the crowd, the black panthers urge violence against the authorities. Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton may not openly condone it, but are secretly rooting for it. Heres why. Because Martin Luther King and the entire movement of civil rights didn't fix anything. People really didn't care when sit in's happened, and people marching around chanting, but America and the world paid attention when cities burned, and violence erupted. This is why there will be rioting and outbreaks of violence in this case. The case is simply an excuse to express rage for a bigger problem, by a growing group of people who simply weren't "raised" at all, for one reason or another.

With that being said, I defend my house and property with an assortment of firearms, bow, crossbow, and hand weaponry. If all these fools understand is violence, then I shall bring violence to them when they fail to obey the rules of society by breaking into my residence during one of their outbreaks of violence. I urge others to do the same, if you have the means to do so, and stand ready to defend your neighborhoods, homes, cars, and whatever else you worked hard for, against people who seek to take it because its "free" for the taking to them.
 
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