Larry Gude
Strung Out
I need some help, here. What is your point? Mine was that there is little risk of some sort of on going riots and I explained why I think that. I don't see in your response why there is real threat of widespread ongoing riots.
Ferguson Grand Jury, Your opinion
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I need some help, here. What is your point? Mine was that there is little risk of some sort of on going riots and I explained why I think that. I don't see in your response why there is real threat of widespread ongoing riots.
Larry Gude
Strung Out
As I read this again, what I gather from it is that we are in agreement that there are all sorts of reasons there won't be widespread riots.
kwillia
n/a
Well I think you missed the boat. His response clearly gave that we as a collective shore to shore society are all affected by the depressive state of affairs our country is in and THAT is why things are different this time. We are collectively a tinder box waiting for a spark. There is a majority feeling under utilized, under paid, under compensated, etc. and we have had local, state and federal authorities pretty much spend the last several years telling us laws don't matter and certainly won't be enforced. I believe there is basically a WTF mindset across the country that will result in increased violence and clashes all over. All it will take is a spark and Ferguson could very well be that spark.
Agreed. Tinder box surrounded by cans of gas. So my answer is yes to widespread rioting and mayhem across the country. Its going to happen, or will happen in the near future.
Hijinx
Well-Known Member
My opinion for what it's worth is this.
White people will not get involved until they are personally attacked.
As long as the riots are in black neighborhoods and the marauders stay out of white neighborhoods, whites will let the police handle it.
White as a rule do not riot. Yes some drunken college kids may tear through a city after a football game or for some other stupid reason, but basically whites do not riot.
You cannot get whites to stick together to do anything, that is why the Democrat party owns the black vote, and plays the game for the entitled vote , because blacks vote in a block and whites do not. It's why Obama is playing for the Hispanic vote.
Yes: If blacks start invading white neighborhoods , someone is going to die. The BS will be over and whites will start shooting.
I will protect my property.
Now some will say " Is anything you own worth killing someone for?"
Let me put it this way. If my house were on fire I would not want any firefighter to die trying to save it.
But you come to my house with the intention of setting it on fire and I would kill.
Kill to protect my home and protect my family in that home.
White people will not get involved until they are personally attacked.
As long as the riots are in black neighborhoods and the marauders stay out of white neighborhoods, whites will let the police handle it.
White as a rule do not riot. Yes some drunken college kids may tear through a city after a football game or for some other stupid reason, but basically whites do not riot.
You cannot get whites to stick together to do anything, that is why the Democrat party owns the black vote, and plays the game for the entitled vote , because blacks vote in a block and whites do not. It's why Obama is playing for the Hispanic vote.
Yes: If blacks start invading white neighborhoods , someone is going to die. The BS will be over and whites will start shooting.
I will protect my property.
Now some will say " Is anything you own worth killing someone for?"
Let me put it this way. If my house were on fire I would not want any firefighter to die trying to save it.
But you come to my house with the intention of setting it on fire and I would kill.
Kill to protect my home and protect my family in that home.
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http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Govern...onstrations-Upon-Release-of-Ferguson-Decision
http://www.naturalnews.com/047700_Ferguson_riots_state_of_emergency_National_Guard.html
These 2 above articles should show the impending violence to come.
http://www.cnn.com/2013/09/18/us/los-angeles-riots-fast-facts/
This is how many troops it took just to control 1 city, including police etc.
http://timelines.latimes.com/los-angeles-riots/
This is the "police response" or lack thereof at the beginning of the LA riots in 92.
The police aren't "handling" it anymore. They don't like the bad press so they let these morons do what they want. The leadership sees it better to have a dead white motorist or pedestrian killed by a mob than to have a angry white cop swinging sticks into the crowd. That seems to be the "response" to these types of incidents. You can read the lack of response as people are dragged from their cars in 92 and the police don't respond to calls for service to respond to motorists trapped in the hotzone being assaulted by random gangs. Go ahead do some research and read the articles, the audio tapes, the video.
I'll be frank, if I was a motorist that had to commute after this "verdict" I would carry some sort of weapon to defend myself "just in case" a random group of brainwashed goons decided to catch me on the freeway in traffic on my commute home. Just saying. The police aren't and won't come to your aid. The supreme court has ruled under Warren Vs DC that they are not required and cannot be held liable for failing to provide aid when your under attack.
Larry Gude
Strung Out
But, in the past, their was a system to focus and direct anger at. A white system. That is simply no longer the case. I'm telling you, if we just let it, Obama has, if nothing else, wore out the race cards. There is no longer the media control of 1968 or even the LA riots (early 90's???) There now IS an strong alternate view. MSNBC is not doing well, at all, featuring Sharpton.
If you work on base you can't take a firearm with you onto the base. So you would have to stow the firearm somewhere off base until you could go and get it before commuting home. Or you could risk bringing the firearm on base but could get caught with it and maybe lose base privileges.
That maybe true as far as carrying weapons on federal installations.
Not that I would recommend carrying a firearm which depending on the situation may be against the law, there are other options available for personal defense purposes.
My personal recommendations?
1. Be sure your car is in top condition, in case you need to run through a crowd that is attacking your car.
2. Go on the internet and get a fire extinguisher size can of OC spray. One that the police use for crowd control. It does wonders clearing the masses.
3. Items like a tire checker, tire iron, tow chain, anything that can be used to beat back marauders who plan to spoil your commute home, but might be overlooked as a "weapon."
4. Stay away from main thoroughfares and traditionally "bad" neighborhoods where violence is a normal mainstay. These areas will definately be worse during a time of unrest.
5. Invest in body armor, kevlar blankets, and possibly a helmet/eye protection if you can. Wearing it while driving home may slow down projectiles being thrown/fired at your car.
Any other recommendations?
Not that I would recommend carrying a firearm which depending on the situation may be against the law, there are other options available for personal defense purposes.
My personal recommendations?
1. Be sure your car is in top condition, in case you need to run through a crowd that is attacking your car.
2. Go on the internet and get a fire extinguisher size can of OC spray. One that the police use for crowd control. It does wonders clearing the masses.
3. Items like a tire checker, tire iron, tow chain, anything that can be used to beat back marauders who plan to spoil your commute home, but might be overlooked as a "weapon."
4. Stay away from main thoroughfares and traditionally "bad" neighborhoods where violence is a normal mainstay. These areas will definately be worse during a time of unrest.
5. Invest in body armor, kevlar blankets, and possibly a helmet/eye protection if you can. Wearing it while driving home may slow down projectiles being thrown/fired at your car.
Any other recommendations?
Larry Gude
Strung Out
mamatutu
mama to two
Thought this thread was a good a place as any to post this.. From Allen West's website...
Blatant racial hypocrisy: Death penalty off the table for black attackers charged in murder of white...
"The nation is walking on eggshells and the governor of Missouri has declared a state of emergency as we await the ruling from a Grand Jury hearing regarding the shooting death of Michael Brown by Ferguson Officer Darren Wilson. It seems that the premise of our judicial system and individual rights of “innocent until proven guilty” has no standing in this case. And if the evidence is proven to support charges not being brought against Officer Wilson, why is it that we must fear riots? Recent pictures of the city of Ferguson make it look like folks are preparing for a hurricane.
However, in the midst of all this, there’s another interesting case, which clearly demonstrates the hypocrisy surrounding Ferguson."
Read the story here:
http://allenbwest.com/2014/11/blata...black-attackers-charged-murder-white-officer/
Blatant racial hypocrisy: Death penalty off the table for black attackers charged in murder of white...
"The nation is walking on eggshells and the governor of Missouri has declared a state of emergency as we await the ruling from a Grand Jury hearing regarding the shooting death of Michael Brown by Ferguson Officer Darren Wilson. It seems that the premise of our judicial system and individual rights of “innocent until proven guilty” has no standing in this case. And if the evidence is proven to support charges not being brought against Officer Wilson, why is it that we must fear riots? Recent pictures of the city of Ferguson make it look like folks are preparing for a hurricane.
However, in the midst of all this, there’s another interesting case, which clearly demonstrates the hypocrisy surrounding Ferguson."
Read the story here:
http://allenbwest.com/2014/11/blata...black-attackers-charged-murder-white-officer/
itsrequired
New Member
So as of this Tuesday, 11/18/14, the grand jury was still hearing evidence. Care to change your mind?
Hijinx
Well-Known Member
Today is 11/20/14 and they are still afraid to announce a decision. Hell no I haven't changed my mind.
http://www.cnn.com/2014/11/19/justice/ferguson-grand-jury-ruling/
Then after they make a decision they have to wait 2 days to announce it? BS
This whole thing is fear and intimidation. So frightened they call out the National Guard because a culture of looters, thieves and law breaking brigands has the whole state scared shi*less.
To threaten to riot because one of their group of thieves got himself shot for attacking a police officer tells me a lot about the type of people who make such a threat.
Anyone who show up on that street to riot is no better than a thief and thug themself.
Do not be fooled by the BS asking for Justice. This whole thing has nothing to do with Justice.
Announce the decision and deal with rioters harshly.
itsrequired
New Member
So you want them to announce a decision BEFORE all the evidence is in and they had an opportunity to deliberate. I see how much about justice you are!
Hijinx
Well-Known Member
Man you are so full of sh*t.
They have seen all the evidence for days. They are holding off because they are frightened or told to.
Now if you don't believe that, that is your right. Just don't come here with your holier than thou BS and spit it at me.
Bay_Kat
Tropical
I saw on TV yesterday that the Grand Jury only meets on Thursdays, but today I saw that they are having a special meeting tomorrow. I think tomorrow it's going to come down.
Some Q&A
http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/answers-common-questions-grand-juries-26974494
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mamatutu
mama to two
I think you are absolutely right. Timing is everything, and Obama is an insider; especially since the Feds are involved in Ferguson. His 'amnesty' speech didn't happen tonight for no reason, plus the fact it was aired to postpone the Latin American Music Awards. This admin wants to think Americans are stupid, but we are not. Obama is playing with fire.