Fetterman doubles down on support for Biden amid calls for him to withdraw: 'He's been a great president'

[vraiblonde]

But the right wing press is the only way I know of his criminality.

See, and I didn't know any of that stuff until Joe started running for President. This would have been good information to have when he was VP, but they - including Fox etc - spiked it. Even after he began his campaign they tread lightly around the subject and didn't really go after him.

So again I ask, why?

 

[Hijinx]

See, and I didn't know any of that stuff until Joe started running for President. This would have been good information to have when he was VP, but they - including Fox etc - spiked it. Even after he began his campaign they tread lightly around the subject and didn't really go after him.

So again I ask, why?

The can only be two reason. Power or Money.
probably a little of each.

 

[SamSpade]

See, and I didn't know any of that stuff until Joe started running for President. This would have been good information to have when he was VP, but they - including Fox etc - spiked it. Even after he began his campaign they tread lightly around the subject and didn't really go after him.

So again I ask, why?

I guess I have no answer. Perhaps you don't watch or read the same stuff I do. Known about all the Burisma crap since the impeachment - known about the bribe from the Moscow mayor's ex-wife for a long time - known about the dozens of shell companies and beneficiiaries being CHILDREN in the Biden family - the "big guy" - all of that - for years. None of it has ever been news to me. Tony Bobulinski has been on FOX before, and he appeared on Tucker's show at LEAST once. The firing of Victor Shokin - which wasn't so much to protect HUNTER as it was to protect Ukrainians Hunter was working with.

Biden family has been so corrupt for years, I think it's like water to fish, to them. They're so used to the way things happen in Washington, they don't blink.

The biggest problem about nailing Biden on some of these schemes is indefatigable proof -no "receipts" as it were. They sure have a lot of money and wealth, but not a lot of how they got it. ANYONE ELSE would be going to jail.

 

[vraiblonde]

I guess I have no answer. Perhaps you don't watch or read the same stuff I do. Known about all the Burisma crap since the impeachment - known about the bribe from the Moscow mayor's ex-wife for a long time - known about the dozens of shell companies and beneficiiaries being CHILDREN in the Biden family - the "big guy" - all of that - for years. None of it has ever been news to me. Tony Bobulinski has been on FOX before, and he appeared on Tucker's show at LEAST once. The firing of Victor Shokin - which wasn't so much to protect HUNTER as it was to protect Ukrainians Hunter was working with.

Biden family has been so corrupt for years, I think it's like water to fish, to them. They're so used to the way things happen in Washington, they don't blink.

The biggest problem about nailing Biden on some of these schemes is indefatigable proof -no "receipts" as it were. They sure have a lot of money and wealth, but not a lot of how they got it. ANYONE ELSE would be going to jail.

Right, but you're talking about things that came out when Joe started his 2020 presidential campaign, which is what I said. The first Bobulinski interview was in late 2020 and as far as I'm aware Tucker was the only major TV person who covered it.

The Burisma story didn't break until late 2019, and the usual suspects couldn't call it fake fast enough - just Donald Trump lying and trying to strongarm Ukraine to hurt his opponent (which was the basis of the first impeachment, IIRC).

Not a word of any of it came out in the 8 years Biden was VP. Not Ukraine, or Burisma, or Hunter, or the shell companies, or any of it. Certainly not in the 872 years he was a Senator.

What I'm saying is that the so-called conservative news media and GOP should have been on these things while Biden was still a Senator. Certainly after Obama announced him as his VP.

So why didn't they?

 

[Hijinx]

Right, but you're talking about things that came out when Joe started his 2020 presidential campaign, which is what I said. The first Bobulinski interview was in late 2020 and as far as I'm aware Tucker was the only major TV person who covered it.

The Burisma story didn't break until late 2019, and the usual suspects couldn't call it fake fast enough - just Donald Trump lying and trying to strongarm Ukraine to hurt his opponent (which was the basis of the first impeachment, IIRC).

Not a word of any of it came out in the 8 years Biden was VP. Not Ukraine, or Burisma, or Hunter, or the shell companies, or any of it. Certainly not in the 872 years he was a Senator.

What I'm saying is that the so-called conservative news media and GOP should have been on these things while Biden was still a Senator. Certainly after Obama announced him as his VP.

So why didn't they?

I don't know the answer as to why didn't they, My question is how many others are they helping to hide.? Where is Schumer's hidden facts.Where are Bernie's? Schiff? Waters ?

 

[SamSpade]

Right, but you're talking about things that came out when Joe started his 2020 presidential campaign, which is what I said. The first Bobulinski interview was in late 2020 and as far as I'm aware Tucker was the only major TV person who covered it.

The Burisma story didn't break until late 2019, and the usual suspects couldn't call it fake fast enough - just Donald Trump lying and trying to strongarm Ukraine to hurt his opponent (which was the basis of the first impeachment, IIRC).

Not a word of any of it came out in the 8 years Biden was VP. Not Ukraine, or Burisma, or Hunter, or the shell companies, or any of it. Certainly not in the 872 years he was a Senator.

What I'm saying is that the so-called conservative news media and GOP should have been on these things while Biden was still a Senator. Certainly after Obama announced him as his VP.

So why didn't they?

Same reason the local robbery at a convenience store doesn't make national news. Because when he was a Senator, he was just Joe Biden. Not Majority Leader - not Majority Whip. Not leading any significant committee. A Senator, yes, but nobody. Flying under the radar.

It's different if he had been Senator Menendez, more prominent, more significant.

It's not the fault of conservative media - it's just that there's just so many fish to fry. If Kamala gets the nomination - you'll hear how dirty SHE has been for the past twenty years. It's just the nature of news, not people falling down on the job.

 

[vraiblonde]

It's different if he had been Senator Menendez, more prominent, more significant.

A two-term VP is pretty prominent, and yet they were hiding his criminality then, too.

 

[BOP]

They're conveniently unburdened by principles.

Stealing that and adding it to the list.

If it weren't for double standards, the left wouldn't have any.

If their lips are moving, they're lying.

If they couldn't lie, they wouldn't have anything to say.

They're conveniently unburdened by principles.

 

[BOP]

You speak as though Joe is making this decision. He isn't. Dr. Jill is.

Yeah, I heard someone say on a video a day or two after the debate debacle that Jill is the one they have to convince, and she's holding firm. I forget who said it; Megyn Kelly, maybe. Or Emily, my heart throb, Compango, perhaps.

 

[BOP]

What have you not been following? The LLC's, the clear bribes from Moscow, and Beijing. The weaponization of government, the collusion with high tech for censorship - I mean, damn, he's the dirtiest since Hillary. I sure didn't hear all about that from mainstream media.

Grant you - it's not gaining traction in MAINSTREAM media - heck, you tell everyone he's senile, and they laugh it off in late night, at the WHPC, in the leftie press. But the right wing press is the only way I know of his criminality. And people like Jordan and Comer have been relentless.

We know about all that NOW, but before Trump, not so much.

Bongino even said it, that Biden projects this kindly, bumbling, old grandpa image, but don't be fooled: Biden is an evil man.

But 50 years in the Senate and 8 years as VP, and none of that stuff started coming out until he made his run for President.

 

[SamSpade]

We know about all that NOW, but before Trump, not so much.

Bongino even said it, that Biden projects this kindly, bumbling, old grandpa image, but don't be fooled: Biden is an evil man.

But 50 years in the Senate and 8 years as VP, and none of that stuff started coming out until he made his run for President.

I just don't agree with DJ on the idea that somehow, the GOP and conservative media either KNEW about it when he was President, or somehow just let it slide. I don't think so. I've only been paying attention to politics since becoming an adult - but I've always known that corruption and scandal is only dug out when there's a bona fide political NEED to do so. You can't investigate everyone, and even the ones you do - everyone in Washington seems to be made of Teflon - even when we have them dead to rights, they always brush it right off.

Nobody gives a crap about OUR two Senators, but I have little doubt they're corrupt also. Unless one runs for President, or otherwise stirs the waters a lot.