Firm hired by Trump to investigation election":No evidence of fraud"

StmarysCity79

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Just to be consistent here, when the FBI said they found no Russian collusion from Trump y'all said "That just means they didn't find anything" but now this firm doesn't find anything and it means there wasn't any?

Personally I don't believe there was any true fraud, I believe the system was gamed to get people that never wouldn't bothered or didn't know who the hell was even running to vote. What I hate is the double standards you and your butt buddies have.

You keep saying y'all.

IS there any indication that i said that?

They didn't find any direct links to Trump or Russia but many of his associates were arrested and charged.

Now Trumps own firms have twice run investigations that have turned up no fraud or issues in the election. As well as the hand recounts and rerunning the tallies via machine all showed the system safe and secure.

When you say "gamed the system" do you realize that all you are saying is allowing the most amount of people to vote in the most convenient way? What exactly is wrong with that?

Many states already had widespread mail in ballots before this with no complaints until Donny started screaming fraud.
 

StmarysCity79

Well-Known Member
Hmm…truthful in more way than one.

Please dont change my words. If you have an idea use your words to explain it and have a discussion.

Thats the whole point of this forum.

Case in point Abortion restrictions. Republicans continue to pass more and more restrictive laws that are out of step with the general population. Even most Republicans.
 

Bare-ya-cuda

Well-Known Member
Please dont change my words. If you have an idea use your words to explain it and have a discussion.

Thats the whole point of this forum.

Case in point Abortion restrictions. Republicans continue to pass more and more restrictive laws that are out of step with the general population. Even most Republicans.
Not so great when hypocrisy is pointed out is it? You really think the majority of the country wants abortion to be unrestricted? I think not.
 

GURPS

INGSOC
PREMO Member
Republicans continue to pass more and more restrictive laws that are out of step with the general population.


UNPOPULAR IN BLUE STATES .... laws are being changed in RED States because the RED STATE CITIZENS Do not want to have abortions in their state
 

StmarysCity79

Well-Known Member
Not so great when hypocrisy is pointed out is it? You really think the majority of the country wants abortion to be unrestricted? I think not.


Again please don't change my words. I never said unrestricted. Which would mean abortion at full term.

The majority of the country wants access to abortion services and the decision left up to a woman and her doctor.

At 6 weeks (which is what many states are now trying push) many women dont even know they are pregnant yet. That is radical.

"Broad support for abortion rights: Gallup polls show Americans’ support for abortion in all or most cases at 85% as of May 2022, higher than when polling began in 1975 (76%), and the Pew Research Center finds 62% of adults believe abortion should be legal, compared to 60% in 1995—though there has been fluctuation, with support dropping to a low of 47% in 2009.

Support remains steady post-Dobbs: Americans’ broad support for abortion has largely remained steady since the Supreme Court overturned Roe v. Wade last June in Dobbs v. Jackson Women’s Health Organization, with Pew’s polling finding that it went up from 61% in March 2022 to 62% in July, after the court’s ruling, and a Public Religion Research Institute (PRRI) poll finding that while support for abortion has broadly grown since 2010 (now at 64%), there was little change in the months before and after the court’s ruling."

 

Bare-ya-cuda

Well-Known Member
Again please don't change my words. I never said unrestricted. Which would mean abortion at full term.

The majority of the country wants access to abortion services and the decision left up to a woman and her doctor.

At 6 weeks (which is what many states are now trying push) many women dont even know they are pregnant yet. That is radical.

"Broad support for abortion rights: Gallup polls show Americans’ support for abortion in all or most cases at 85% as of May 2022, higher than when polling began in 1975 (76%), and the Pew Research Center finds 62% of adults believe abortion should be legal, compared to 60% in 1995—though there has been fluctuation, with support dropping to a low of 47% in 2009.

Support remains steady post-Dobbs: Americans’ broad support for abortion has largely remained steady since the Supreme Court overturned Roe v. Wade last June in Dobbs v. Jackson Women’s Health Organization, with Pew’s polling finding that it went up from 61% in March 2022 to 62% in July, after the court’s ruling, and a Public Religion Research Institute (PRRI) poll finding that while support for abortion has broadly grown since 2010 (now at 64%), there was little change in the months before and after the court’s ruling."

News articles are nothing more than opinions and polls can and are usually skewed. If the state you live in has abortion laws you don’t like then move to one that does. That simple.
 

StmarysCity79

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News articles are nothing more than opinions and polls can and are usually skewed. If the state you live in has abortion laws you don’t like then move to one that does. That simple.

Poor people cant move. Minors cant move. Stop being an idiot and think. Some states take hours to drive out of and may people cant take a day off work to travel to another state or cant afford it.

If your dauighter was raped would that be your response?

You cantmake blanket statements about the opinions of americans and the reject the very data when it is preseneted to you.

Why would anyone waste their time discussing anything with you when you dismiss any facts or articles you don't agree with.
 

Clem72

Well-Known Member
It was a deliberate attempt to keep low information voters from voting for Obama becuase they werent sure. Just like he lies about everything.

Just like all the Hillary stuff.
I disagree, much of the Hillary stuff had legs. But again we should know the "in" people never have to answer until they are no longer useful.
 

StmarysCity79

Well-Known Member
I disagree, much of the Hillary stuff had legs. But again we should know the "in" people never have to answer until they are no longer useful.


Didnt you just get mad at me for when you claimed i said the same after the Russia investigation?

Seems pretty hypocrticial to mad about something i never even said then go ahead and say the exact same thing about a similair scenario

Both were cleared by investigations yet here you are still saying there was something there.

While also saying it's unfair people said there was still some thing there about Trump after he was cleared.
 

OccamsRazor

Well-Known Member
IS there any indication that i said that?
Please dont change my words.
Again please don't change my words. I never said...
Why would anyone waste their time discussing anything with you when you dismiss any facts or articles you don't agree with.
Is any of this "Correct?"
Seems that even when it is pointed out to you when you double-speak, you simply ignore it.
 

Bare-ya-cuda

Well-Known Member
Poor people cant move. Minors cant move. Stop being an idiot and think. Some states take hours to drive out of and may people cant take a day off work to travel to another state or cant afford it.

If your dauighter was raped would that be your response?

You cantmake blanket statements about the opinions of americans and the reject the very data when it is preseneted to you.

Why would anyone waste their time discussing anything with you when you dismiss any facts or articles you don't agree with.
Oh now all of a sudden moving is an issue? It sure isn’t an issue when it comes to the second amendment now is it. Governors of these blues states tell people who don’t agree with their gun laws to move. Abortion isn’t a constitutional right either.
 

Clem72

Well-Known Member
Didnt you just get mad at me for when you claimed i said the same after the Russia investigation?

Seems pretty hypocrticial to mad about something i never even said then go ahead and say the exact same thing about a similair scenario
cleared.

Who? Are you confusing me with someone else? I made a comment about Trump going after Obama's birth certificate. I didn't say anything about Russia investigations.

Do we all just look alike to you?
 

StmarysCity79

Well-Known Member
Oh now all of a sudden moving is an issue? It sure isn’t an issue when it comes to the second amendment now is it. Governors of these blues states tell people who don’t agree with their gun laws to move. Abortion isn’t a constitutional right either.

You brought up moving
 

Bare-ya-cuda

Well-Known Member
You brought up moving
I know I did. You live in a state with restrictive laws and want to abort your unborn child move to one that doesn’t have the restrictive laws. If it’s good enough solution for a constitutional right then It should be good enough for abortion.

Do you disagree?
 

OccamsRazor

Well-Known Member
I know I did. You live in a state with restrictive laws and want to abort your unborn child move to one that doesn’t have the restrictive laws. If it’s good enough solution for a constitutional right then It should be good enough for abortion.

Do you disagree?
AND... just like gun ownership, if you live in a state with restrictive laws against abortion and you cannot afford to move, then maybe you should think about that before deciding to go through with the act.
 

StmarysCity79

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I know I did. You live in a state with restrictive laws and want to abort your unborn child move to one that doesn’t have the restrictive laws. If it’s good enough solution for a constitutional right then It should be good enough for abortion.

Do you disagree?

SOME PEOPLE CANT MOVE DUMMY
 
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