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Midnightrider

Well-Known Member
PsyOps said:
Actually, as far as I understand it, once ICE knows they are here illegally they are supposed to be deported.

I'm not implying folks shouldn't be heard anyway. I'm concerned about all the other illegals that will come out of the woodowrk claiming they are gay or having some other sort of hardship to gain asylum.


Removal Proceedings
Removal hearings are heard before an immigration law judge, who can order deportation. Criminal proceedings are a separate procedure. There is no punishment with removal itself, other than being transported out of the country and barred from re-entry for a specified period of time.




They have always had hearings and the option to request asylum. Remember the Cuba imigration crisis. All of those folks had to have hearings before they were deported, or released. Many requested asylum from political persecution-and many times this persecution was becasue of their mental illness or previous criminal activity.
 

Bustem' Down

Give Peas a Chance
PsyOps said:
He entered into the country illegally. And you seem to have missed my point. This ruling opens the door for any illegal immigrant to present a case of mistreatment or persecution or whatever.
And then the illegals will be legal and everybody can stop whining about it.
 

Bustem' Down

Give Peas a Chance
PsyOps said:
I grew up in Texas for 20 years. I know all about illegal immigration, and quite frankly, find that most of the people up in arms about it are people who do not live in boarder states. Sure, it's a problem, but it's also the new "abortion issue", meaning that politicians will talk and talk and make token efforts, but not really do anything because it will cost too much. I don't mind them that much.
 

PsyOps

Pixelated
Bustem' Down said:
I grew up in Texas for 20 years. I know all about illegal immigration, and quite frankly, find that most of the people up in arms about it are people who do not live in boarder states. Sure, it's a problem, but it's also the new "abortion issue", meaning that politicians will talk and talk and make token efforts, but not really do anything because it will cost too much. I don't mind them that much.
Although the illegal immigration problem, as a whole, bugs the crap out of me especially when you hear about things like the state of MD granting in-state tuition to illegals while making out-of-state Americans pay double that. There is a place for most of these hard-working folks coming over. I just wish they would do it in accordance to our laws.

Aside from that I agree with you completely that our government isn't the least bit interested because of the cost. But how much the cost when some terrorists make it over (and I believe they are already here) and kill another 3000 or more? Because of this (not the Mexicans or Cubans or Puerto Ricans, etc...) we will eventually be forced to seal up our borders. Too much is said about the Hispanics, who mean us no harm, and not enough is said about who want to harm us taking advantage of our porous borders.
 

Midnightrider

Well-Known Member
PsyOps said:
Although the illegal immigration problem, as a whole, bugs the crap out of me especially when you hear about things like the state of MD granting in-state tuition to illegals while making out-of-state Americans pay double that. There is a place for most of these hard-working folks coming over. I just wish they would do it in accordance to our laws.

Aside from that I agree with you completely that our government isn't the least bit interested because of the cost. But how much the cost when some terrorists make it over (and I believe they are already here) and kill another 3000 or more? Because of this (not the Mexicans or Cubans or Puerto Ricans, etc...) we will eventually be forced to seal up our borders. Too much is said about the Hispanics, who mean us no harm, and not enough is said about who want to harm us taking advantage of our porous borders.
I dont remember hear that any of the terrorist involved in 911 entered the country illegally......
 

Bustem' Down

Give Peas a Chance
PsyOps said:
Although the illegal immigration problem, as a whole, bugs the crap out of me especially when you hear about things like the state of MD granting in-state tuition to illegals while making out-of-state Americans pay double that. There is a place for most of these hard-working folks coming over. I just wish they would do it in accordance to our laws.

Aside from that I agree with you completely that our government isn't the least bit interested because of the cost. But how much the cost when some terrorists make it over (and I believe they are already here) and kill another 3000 or more? Because of this (not the Mexicans or Cubans or Puerto Ricans, etc...) we will eventually be forced to seal up our borders. Too much is said about the Hispanics, who mean us no harm, and not enough is said about who want to harm us taking advantage of our porous borders.
Which is why I could really care less about it. I know the politicians this next election are going to talk it up because it's an easy subject, and ignore the really hard questions.
 

itsbob

I bowl overhand
Midnightrider said:
I dont remember hear that any of the terrorist involved in 911 entered the country illegally......
The didn't enter illegally, but most were here illegally..

AND a good enemy adapts.. if you close one door, they'll find another and in this case, an easier door.
 

Bustem' Down

Give Peas a Chance
itsbob said:
The didn't enter illegally, but most were here illegally..

AND a good enemy adapts.. if you close one door, they'll find another and in this case, an easier door.
And is becoming illegal really that hard? Fill some papers, get a visa...
 

protectmd

New Member
Heres my issue with it all. Im not discounting that there are many illegals that have been here for many years working in jobs living as law abiding americans should do. However here is where I have the problem with it all.

Other countries are dumping their problems on us. MS-13 from El Salvador has been screwing up the whole NoVa, Md, DC area. If you think it affects border states your wrong. It affects us when kids get stabbed at a middle school because they won't join the marked salvadorian army.

No doubt that illegals cross the border on a daily basis. Some come across barely making it only to find that there is hundreds of miles of open desert to cross without water or shade. Some die trying. These people come to find work in the US and establish a foothold. Many are skilled people.
However, there are also some who are bringing illegal drugs, guns and other contraband past our borders. Terrorists sneaking in bringing with them bombs and whatever else. These people are taxing the local resources of border states and elsewhere. They are testing americans patience.

It was recently on the news that the drug cartel type people are now setting up mirror posts to the national guard on the US-Mexican Border. The US border patrol can no longer use lights on their vehicles at night because it gives snipers a target. People are shooting from the mexican side of the border at american troops and law enforcement forcing the National Guard to retreat. This is a serious problem, and in some countries would be considered an act of war.

If you think it will not affect you, it will sooner or later. This is a national security issue. There are many who come to the US on student visas to study, or come to this country on work visas and work in jobs to make money to send home. They pass background checks and are documented with US authorities. The illegals are making it hard on the law abiding immigrants that come to this country. These people are the ones who come here and tax our healthcare system, fill our jails, overwhelm our civil services, and refuse to conform to modern day american society. They refuse to pay taxes, and think that they can get by taking what they want. They think they do not have to obey american laws, and start off by breaking them by entering this country illegally.
They don't believe they should have to. They would rather protest, fly the mexican flag over the american flag and turn the american flag upside down. They prefer to sing the star spangled banner in spanish. They think that by sheer numbers they can overwhelm the US and force us to change to coddle to them. I refuse. I am angered and outraged by them. I know alot of people of hispanic origin who feel the same way, because they come from other countries like el salvador and nicaragua, mexico, etc.... and earned their citizenship by servicing in the US military etc... all the while these other freeloaders get to enter the country and do whatever the hell they want, and what have they done for America?


I would like to thank those who volunteer their time to the minutemen project for helping bring light to the subject of illegal immigrants.


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