forced acceptance of homosexuality.

[vraiblonde]

And how would you handle it if a Doctor found out something about your personal life and did the same thing to you?

I would say, thanks for the referral, and I would move on.

Lawsuits are expensive and time-consuming. Nobody enters into them lightly.

 

[dustin]

I wonder if this will get the same attention when a Muslim doctor refuses to treat a homosexual...

 

[Geek]

I would say, thanks for the referral, and I would move on.

Lawsuits are expensive and time-consuming. Nobody enters into them lightly.

So these women must have been offended greatly to start a lawsuit.

 

[Sonsie]

You know, IVF is VERY invasive and involved. I've went through it and I can tell you this, I wouldn't want a Doc who disliked or dissapproved of me being my caregiver. It's an emotional and hormonal nightmare with a supportive warm Doc. It's also a gamble and a game of tiny fractions. If your Doc didn't have your best interests at heart he could easily steer that tiny egg wrong. Or during the opening exams do less effective drugs and treatments and still be on the right side of the law. Forcing a Doc to do what he considers morally wrong when it's YOUR feet in the stirrups and your hopes on the line is stupid.

This muncher is probably just suing for big $$$ long after the fact anyway.

 

[Larry Gude]

*lol*

not include inseminating lesbians, and he referred her to a doctor that would.

He acted in a professional manner. She is just being a ##### with an agenda.

"I'm sorry. I am a medical professional and my training and experience and my professionalism tells me to not provide the service we offer to you because of what you do in the bedroom. It offends my faith. Have a nice day!"

 

[czygvtwkr]

She was denied the right to be served by the doctor she wanted to be served by.

The doctor's rights be damned.

Hmm when i go to McDonalds I want to be served by the girl with the big jugs that is in the back operating the frier. I think I will complain next time.

 

[bcp]

So these women must have been offended greatly to start a lawsuit.

or backed by some group with an agenda

 

[Larry Gude]

I...

I fit the mold. however, I would like to see others on the other side of the argument agree that they too fit that same mold.

If a gay can be born gay, why is it not possible that I could have been born to find those homosexual acts repulsive?

you should tolerate and accept my opinions as valid.

...do. I totally accept that homosexuals offend you and make you angry and hostile because you think they are mentally ill.

I reject that that provides a basis for discriminating against them publicly in terms of providing goods and services.

 

[Larry Gude]

I'll...

the lesbo bar in Norfolk?
we tried to get in, this stocky little woman bouncer told us it was ladies night, I said we could come back tomorrow, she said, tomorrow is ladies night, went on for each night of the week.
so then I asked, Is this a dyke bar?

she chased us across the parking lot. I almost wet myself while I was running because I was laughing so damn hard.

...bet you had a horrible time finding another bar in Norfolk, unlike artificial insemination clinics in California where there is one on every corner.

 

[bcp]

...do. I totally accept that homosexuals offend you and make you angry and hostile because you think they are mentally ill.

I reject that that provides a basis for discriminating against them publicly in terms of providing goods and services.

but its ok to force their agenda on others.
were does it stop?

are churches going to be forced to embrace them as normal and rewrite the Bible to correspond?
If I own a home and advertise for a roommate, do I have to accept a homo and put up with him butt humping some different guy every night in the other room?
where does their rights cross the line to my rights?

she was not denied service, she was referred to someone that would do it, she was not told to go without, she was told to go without at this location.

the suit is a BS suit that has no basis other than moving their agenda one step further.

 

[bcp]

...bet you had a horrible time finding another bar in Norfolk, unlike artificial insemination clinics in California where there is one on every corner.

true I dont know where they are, however, if at the door of that bar they said, this is a ladies only lesbian bar, you cant come in here. But let us give you this map and the location of a lesbian bar in town that will let you in.

see the difference? they were pointed in the right direction. so there is no issue.

 

[LastSon]

bcp, what can you not figure out about the fact that this Doctor's office is providing a PUBLIC service? The examples you listed are completely private entitiies, they are free to exclude anyone they choose, but a Doctor is to provide medical services to any and all, and cannot discriminate based on their personal feelings.

 

[czygvtwkr]

true I dont know where they are, however, if at the door of that bar they said, this is a ladies only lesbian bar, you cant come in here. But let us give you this map and the location of a lesbian bar in town that will let you in.

see the difference? they were pointed in the right direction. so there is no issue.

Do you still have that map

 

[Larry Gude]

*sigh*

but its ok to force their agenda on others.
were does it stop? My bad. I thought this woman wanted to have a baby. Not make the doctors lesbians. Wait. Are the doctors gay? Becuase, if not, they're already lesbo's! You're right! She may have made them into seeing women the way she does!! OHMYGOD!!!

are churches going to be forced to embrace them as normal and rewrite the Bible to correspond? She tried to get inseminated at a church?

If I own a home and advertise for a roommate, do I have to accept a homo and put up with him butt humping some different guy every night in the other room? No. However, if you open up an apartment building, you do.

where does their rights cross the line to my rights? I would think if you offer artificial insemination as a service, as long as the customer pays the bill, you're GTG.

she was not denied service, Yes, she was. She was told "no lesbos." she was referred to someone that would do it, she was not told to go without, she was told to go without at this location.

the suit is a BS suit that has no basis other than moving their agenda one step further.

So what?

As I've said time and again, if a community has the right to license business's then they have the right to make rules, pursuant to the constitution. These doctors are free to disagree with the conditions and go open up shop elsewhere. They do NOT have to serve her. They do if they want to do business in that community.

I do NOT see a constitutional violation in requiring a business to do what they say they do without discriminating based on personal issues.

 

[redhotmomma]

I believe everyone should have the same rights. It shouldn't matter what race or if you are gay or straight.

 

[Larry Gude]

If...

true I dont know where they are, however, if at the door of that bar they said, this is a ladies only lesbian bar, you cant come in here. But let us give you this map and the location of a lesbian bar in town that will let you in.

see the difference? they were pointed in the right direction. so there is no issue.

...you were so devastated, I think you should sue. You have a case in my view. Hurry, maybe the statue of limitations hasn't run out.

Your analogy is absurd, which you know. A better analogy would be that you went to an artificial insemination clinic and got refused.

But, again, I think you have a case.

 

[Larry Gude]

Not...

I believe everyone should have the same rights. It shouldn't matter what race or if you are gay or straight.

...me. I think the docs should be allowed to refuse to serve men. I think they should be allowed to refuse service to people who don't pay their bills. I think they should be allowed to refuse service to people who are jerks. I think if this woman was an a-hole to them, deliberately provocative, they should win the case and she should have to pay their court costs plus loss of business.

I think if she was simply told 'no' solely because she is a lesbian that they should have to pay for her procedure.

 

[redhotmomma]

If you can't refuse service because of the color of their skin then why refuse service because of their sexuality? I understand people have religious beliefs thats great. So if some works a WAWA and someone who is gay comes in can they refuse service to them? Should people start calling places to see what their beliefs are before going?

 

[thurley42]

I bet that they are ugly....if they were hot lesbians i'm sure he wouldn't have a problem with it

I just read through this entire thread and that's all I could contribute since this beast has been Barbaro since last evening sometime...

 

[Vince]

The more I read on this subject the more I get the feeling this womans agenda is all about the money. She ended up going elsewhere for her insemination and had a baby, but sued the other place for all her fees for the insemination and then some. So having a baby didn't cost her a penny. It's all about the money.