Forgiveness

[2ndAmendment]

God forgives sinners. It is that simple. We are sinners; at least I am. I know God forgives me, but I find it hard to forgive myself. There are those memories of what I did wrong to others and God. I still mess up. Most often, it is just in my mind, but sin starts with a thought. But God forgives if we just ask through Jesus. Even Isaiah tells how God chooses to forget our sin for His own sake; because He wants to.

Isaiah 43:24-26

24"You have bought Me not sweet cane with money,
Nor have you filled Me with the fat of your sacrifices;
Rather you have burdened Me with your sins,
You have wearied Me with your iniquities.
25"I, even I, am the one who wipes out your transgressions for My own sake,
And I will not remember your sins.
26"Put Me in remembrance, let us argue our case together;
State your cause, that you may be proved right.

Why? Is God forgetful? He does it because He loves us.

Paul testifies in Hebrews that God does not remember our sins.

Hebrews 10:10-25

10By this will we have been sanctified through the offering of the body of Jesus Christ once for all.

11Every priest stands daily ministering and offering time after time the same sacrifices, which can never take away sins;

12but He, having offered one sacrifice for sins for all time, SAT DOWN AT THE RIGHT HAND OF GOD,

13waiting from that time onward UNTIL HIS ENEMIES BE MADE A FOOTSTOOL FOR HIS FEET.

14For by one offering He has perfected for all time those who are sanctified.

15And the Holy Spirit also testifies to us; for after saying,
16"THIS IS THE COVENANT THAT I WILL MAKE WITH THEM
AFTER THOSE DAYS, SAYS THE LORD:
I WILL PUT MY LAWS UPON THEIR HEART,
AND ON THEIR MIND I WILL WRITE THEM,"
He then says,
17"AND THEIR SINS AND THEIR LAWLESS DEEDS
I WILL REMEMBER NO MORE."

18Now where there is forgiveness of these things, there is no longer any offering for sin.
A New and Living Way
19Therefore, brethren, since we have confidence to enter the holy place by the blood of Jesus,

20by a new and living way which He inaugurated for us through the veil, that is, His flesh,

21and since we have a great priest over the house of God,

22let us draw near with a sincere heart in full assurance of faith, having our hearts sprinkled clean from an evil conscience and our bodies washed with pure water.

23Let us hold fast the confession of our hope without wavering, for He who promised is faithful;

24and let us consider how to stimulate one another to love and good deeds,

25not forsaking our own assembling together, as is the habit of some, but encouraging one another; and all the more as you see the day drawing near.

God forgives our sins and forgets them. We need to forgive ourselves and those who sinned against us and who participated in our sin and do our best to put sin out of our mind. Forgiving others is key to forgiveness and forgiving ourselves. We must release, repent, rejuvenate, rejoice, give God the glory and our love. Then we shall bask in His forgiveness and love. It is free for the asking. God lives in our praises.

The blood of Jesus covers all our sins as soon as we repent and ask forgiveness. Satan is the one whispering in our minds that we are not forgiven; we are not good enough, we are dirt, we are bad, trying to get us to give up. Satan is a liar and a thief. He wants to rob us of the gift of salvation by convincing us that we are not forgiven so that we will walk away from our relationship with Jesus. There is no condemnation for those that believe in Jesus as Savior and Lord.

Romans 8:1-3

1Therefore there is now no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus.

2For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus has set you free from the law of sin and of death.

3For what the Law could not do, weak as it was through the flesh, God did: sending His own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh and as an offering for sin, He condemned sin in the flesh,

We, as Christians, as children of the Father, are forgiven by God. We must keep forgiving ourselves as God forgives us.

Love in Christ Jesus,
2A

 

[mv_princess]

So if I think about stepping on your toes, I can be forgiving?

 

[Penn]

Quoting 2nd A:

"God forgives our sins and forgets them. We need to forgive ourselves and those who sinned against us and who participated in our sin and do our best to put sin out of our mind. Forgiving others is key to forgiveness and forgiving ourselves. We must release, repent, rejuvenate, rejoice, give God the glory and our love. Then we shall bask in His forgiveness and love. It is free for the asking. God lives in our praises."

"The blood of Jesus covers all our sins as soon as we repent and ask forgiveness. Satan is the one whispering in our minds that we are not forgiven; we are not good enough, we are dirt, we are bad, trying to get us to give up. Satan is a liar and a thief. He wants to rob us of the gift of salvation by convincing us that we are not forgiven so that we will walk away from our relationship with Jesus. There is no condemnation for those that believe in Jesus as Savior and Lord."<!-- BEGIN TEMPLATE: bbcode_quote -->

Great words!

We need to be reminded of these thoughts from time to time, when we get down on ourselves.

(thank you)

 

[2ndAmendment]

Forgiveness 11-16-2006 10:32 AM repeating the same sins does make sense to me

Point totally missed.

repent

Main Entry: 1re·pent
Pronunciation: ri-'pent
Function: verb
Etymology: Middle English, from Anglo-French repentir, from Medieval Latin repoenitEre, from Latin re- + Late Latin poenitEre to feel regret, alteration of Latin paenitEre -- more at PENITENT
intransitive verb
1 : to turn from sin and dedicate oneself to the amendment of one's life
2 a : to feel regret or contrition b : to change one's mind
transitive verb
1 : to cause to feel regret or contrition
2 : to feel sorrow, regret, or contrition for
- re·pent·er noun

The implication in repentance is you change your desire. You do not want to sin anymore.

Jude 4For certain persons have crept in unnoticed, those who were long beforehand marked out for this condemnation, ungodly persons who turn the grace of our God into licentiousness and deny our only Master and Lord, Jesus Christ.

licentious
One entry found for licentious.
Main Entry: li·cen·tious
Pronunciation: lI-'sen(t)-sh&s
Function: adjective
Etymology: Latin licentiosus, from licentia
1 : lacking legal or moral restraints; especially : disregarding sexual restraints
2 : marked by disregard for strict rules of correctness
- li·cen·tious·ly adverb
- li·cen·tious·ness noun

If you think you can get away with sin by repeatedly asking for forgiveness without repentance, that is licentiousness. You mock God by trying to turn His grace into license to sin. God knows your intent. Of course you can repent of any sin, but don't try to play games. It won't work.

 

[2ndAmendment]

Forgiveness 11-16-2006 03:14 PM No you missed the point. YOU can keep sinning because YOU desire to change? How smug you are, I don't need you to define words for me.

My, my. Testy aren't we?

Someone has to define them for you. You apparently don't understand on your own. Just trying to help.

Seriously, do I repeat the same sin. Yep. Did I want to? Flesh and Spirit at war. It is covered.

Romans 7:14-25

The Conflict of Two Natures

14For we know that the Law is spiritual, but I am of flesh, sold into bondage to sin.

15For what I am doing, I do not understand; for I am not practicing what I would like to do, but I am doing the very thing I hate.

16But if I do the very thing I do not want to do, I agree with the Law, confessing that the Law is good.

17So now, no longer am I the one doing it, but sin which dwells in me.

18For I know that nothing good dwells in me, that is, in my flesh; for the willing is present in me, but the doing of the good is not.

19For the good that I want, I do not do, but I practice the very evil that I do not want.

20But if I am doing the very thing I do not want, I am no longer the one doing it, but sin which dwells in me.

21I find then the principle that evil is present in me, the one who wants to do good.

22For I joyfully concur with the law of God in the inner man,

23but I see a different law in the members of my body, waging war against the law of my mind and making me a prisoner of the law of sin which is in my members.

24Wretched man that I am! Who will set me free from the body of this death?

25Thanks be to God through Jesus Christ our Lord! So then, on the one hand I myself with my mind am serving the law of God, but on the other, with my flesh the law of sin.

 

[Penn]

2A's feeling better!!

Yep, definitely feeling better it would seem!

He's human, just like the rest of us(don't tell him I said that ) and is subject to the same ups and downs everyone of us goes through.

Thanks for your posts, 2nd A.

 

[Railroad]

Well said, 2A! Thank you!

 

[2ndAmendment]

Forgiveness 11-20-2006 09:00 AM pompous douch, you think your opinion is the only valid one? YOURE WRONG

My, someone sure has a problem with forgiveness.

 

[Ghetto Smurf]

Yea its a beautiful system i tell ya, i can do what i want, as long as i get my confession on im golden!

 

[crabcake]

Everytime I see this thread title, I keep hearing that chick in "Just Friends" singing that song "Forgiveness".

 

[2ndAmendment]

Yea its a beautiful system i tell ya, i can do what i want, as long as i get my confession on im golden!

Doing what you want is called licentious. Already been covered in this thread, so you might want to rethink your statement.

 

[2ndAmendment]

Forgiveness 11-28-2006 08:38 AM isnt their something in the bible about being a false prophet? well your attitude in this forum and your blasphemous AV definately indicate that you think you are some kind of prophet- youre not

My AV is in no way blasphemous.

Who appoints prophets? God. As to whether I am a prophet or not is not for you to decide. Actually I have been given the gift of prophesy as well as the gifts of tongues and translation of tongues.

Mark 3:16-18 16"He who has believed and has been baptized shall be saved; but he who has disbelieved shall be condemned.

17"These signs will accompany those who have believed: in My name they will cast out demons, they will speak with new tongues;

18they will pick up serpents, and if they drink any deadly poison, it will not hurt them; they will lay hands on the sick, and they will recover."

Acts 2:16-21

16but this is what was spoken of through the prophet Joel:
17'AND IT SHALL BE IN THE LAST DAYS,' God says,
'THAT I WILL POUR FORTH OF MY SPIRIT ON ALL MANKIND;
AND YOUR SONS AND YOUR DAUGHTERS SHALL PROPHESY,
AND YOUR YOUNG MEN SHALL SEE VISIONS,
AND YOUR OLD MEN SHALL DREAM DREAMS;
18EVEN ON MY BONDSLAVES, BOTH MEN AND WOMEN,
I WILL IN THOSE DAYS POUR FORTH OF MY SPIRIT
And they shall prophesy.
19'AND I WILL GRANT WONDERS IN THE SKY ABOVE
AND SIGNS ON THE EARTH BELOW,
BLOOD, AND FIRE, AND VAPOR OF SMOKE.
20'THE SUN WILL BE TURNED INTO DARKNESS
AND THE MOON INTO BLOOD,
BEFORE THE GREAT AND GLORIOUS DAY OF THE LORD SHALL COME.
21'AND IT SHALL BE THAT EVERYONE WHO CALLS ON THE NAME OF THE LORD WILL BE SAVED.'

1 Corinthians 12
The Use of Spiritual Gifts
1Now concerning spiritual gifts, brethren, I do not want you to be unaware.

2You know that when you were pagans, you were led astray to the mute idols, however you were led.

3Therefore I make known to you that no one speaking by the Spirit of God says, "Jesus is accursed"; and no one can say, "Jesus is Lord," except by the Holy Spirit.

4Now there are varieties of gifts, but the same Spirit.

5And there are varieties of ministries, and the same Lord.

6There are varieties of effects, but the same God who works all things in all persons.

7But to each one is given the manifestation of the Spirit for the common good.

8For to one is given the word of wisdom through the Spirit, and to another the word of knowledge according to the same Spirit;

9to another faith by the same Spirit, and to another gifts of healing by the one Spirit,

10and to another the effecting of miracles, and to another prophecy, and to another the distinguishing of spirits, to another various kinds of tongues, and to another the interpretation of tongues.

11But one and the same Spirit works all these things, distributing to each one individually just as He wills.

12For even as the body is one and yet has many members, and all the members of the body, though they are many, are one body, so also is Christ.

13For by one Spirit we were all baptized into one body, whether Jews or Greeks, whether slaves or free, and we were all made to drink of one Spirit.

14For the body is not one member, but many.

15If the foot says, "Because I am not a hand, I am not a part of the body," it is not for this reason any the less a part of the body.

16And if the ear says, "Because I am not an eye, I am not a part of the body," it is not for this reason any the less a part of the body.

17If the whole body were an eye, where would the hearing be? If the whole were hearing, where would the sense of smell be?

18But now God has placed the members, each one of them, in the body, just as He desired.

19If they were all one member, where would the body be?

20But now there are many members, but one body.

21And the eye cannot say to the hand, "I have no need of you"; or again the head to the feet, "I have no need of you."

22On the contrary, it is much truer that the members of the body which seem to be weaker are necessary;

23and those members of the body which we deem less honorable, on these we bestow more abundant honor, and our less presentable members become much more presentable,

24whereas our more presentable members have no need of it. But God has so composed the body, giving more abundant honor to that member which lacked,

25so that there may be no division in the body, but that the members may have the same care for one another.

26And if one member suffers, all the members suffer with it; if one member is honored, all the members rejoice with it.

27Now you are Christ's body, and individually members of it.

28And God has appointed in the church, first apostles, second prophets, third teachers, then miracles, then gifts of healings, helps, administrations, various kinds of tongues.

29All are not apostles, are they? All are not prophets, are they? All are not teachers, are they? All are not workers of miracles, are they?

30All do not have gifts of healings, do they? All do not speak with tongues, do they? All do not interpret, do they?

31But earnestly desire the greater gifts. And I show you a still more excellent way.

 

[forever jewel]

Actually I have been given the gift of prophesy as well as the gifts of tongues and translation of tongues.

So, when did you discover this?

 

[C-Murda]

dis be y priest be rapin little school boyz, cuz they be knowin dat god will forgive them.

 

[Midnightrider]

My AV is in no way blasphemous.

Who appoints prophets? God. As to whether I am a prophet or not is not for you to decide. Actually I have been given the gift of prophesy as well as the gifts of tongues and translation of tongues.

:davidkoresh:

 

[2ndAmendment]

So, when did you discover this?

1978

 

[Midnightrider]

My AV is in no way blasphemous.

Who appoints prophets? God. As to whether I am a prophet or not is not for you to decide. Actually I have been given the gift of prophesy as well as the gifts of tongues and translation of tongues.

now i could understand if you said you felt you were doing gods work by spreading the word, but most people would consider your above assertion a sure sign of mental illness

 

[sugarmama]

now i could understand if you said you felt you were doing gods work by spreading the word, but most people would consider your above assertion a sure sign of mental illness

Be nice, MR.
I don't get why you think he has a mental illness because of what he said. That is definitely NOT what crossed my mind.

 

[Midnightrider]

Be nice, MR.
I don't get why you think he has a mental illness because of what he said. That is definitely NOT what crossed my mind.

If you told me god gave you the ability to speak/understand/translate in tongues i'd think you were crazy too.

 

[2ndAmendment]

now i could understand if you said you felt you were doing gods work by spreading the word, but most people would consider your above assertion a sure sign of mental illness

Only those that don't read the Bible, which, by your measure, is probably most people since many of those that call themselves Christian never read or have read the Bible much less the average person. Many ministers never read the entire Bible even once and that is a travesty. Many don't believe in the gifts of the Holy Spirit but many do. Jesus said Christians would receive the gifts. The gifts don't make me special. They are not my powers. They are the powers of the Holy Spirit. I just give my life, body, and soul to God for His use. The Holy Spirit lives within me and it is the Holy Spirit that uses those gifts. I am only a vessel.