Gas could fall to $2 a Gallon in 30 days

Geek

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Wouldn't that suck for the people that got in to one of those guaranteed $2.99 a gallon deals for buying a new car?
 
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CalvertNewbie

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figures that it would drop after my vacation.
Im around 1200 in gas so far and I dont even leave yellowstone for the return trip until tomorrow.


:faint:

Yellowstone, huh? I've never been there but will get there someday. I've always imagined it as being one of the most beautiful places in the country. Do you consider it worth the cost of gas you've paid?
 
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toppick08

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In the "words" of a German exchange student we had in High School....

Blulllschlit......on 2 bucks a gallon.
 

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CalvertNewbie

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I'll believe it when I see it!!! It would be really nice though!!

:yeahthat: If anyone wants to buy a gas guzzler (aka SUV), now's the time. I can't believe how much the prices have dropped because the demand is so much lower. You can buy a gently used (2007 or even 2008) SUV for cheap, compared to the prices 6 months ago. Trust me, I was thinking of getting rid of my Jeep Commander until I found out what I could get for it now. The value dropped 3,000 in the past few months. :frown:
 

Chasey_Lane

Salt Life
:yeahthat: If anyone wants to buy a gas guzzler (aka SUV), now's the time. I can't believe how much the prices have dropped because the demand is so much lower. You can buy a gently used (2007 or even 2008) SUV for cheap, compared to the prices 6 months ago. Trust me, I was thinking of getting rid of my Jeep Commander until I found out what I could get for it now. The value dropped 3,000 in the past few months. :frown:
I've been vehicle searching the last two weekends. I'm having a difficult time getting dealers to come down on price for anything. All I want to do is switch an SUV for another. :ohwell:
 

Caddyman

snazzy title here
it's only marketing genius if people actually buy the product. I haven't heard of any run on the Chrysler lots.


I agree, what do you mean "i haven't heard of any run"?

I'm just saying, it's costing them next to nothing even if gas hits $5 (God forbid) and I think it's a pretty good incentive.
 
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Bruzilla

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...of arguments based on time; "Why, it would be a decade before we'd even get a drop of oil out of ANWR! So, why bother?"

Bill Clinton 1996



One of the responsibilities of the government is to promote the general welfare. I read that to be constitutional actions, laws, that are aimed at a sense of fair opportunity and consistency and stability for the American people to build their lives around.

It's one thing for people to get rich and then have bursting bubbles in the stock market, true speculation that so and so's widget is going to be really big or no. It is another to have speculation going on, that same sort of high stakes, last one gets caught holding the bag type of action in the fundamental building blocks of our lives; housing, food and energy.

I already gave you and 2a credit, some time ago, for being right about the speculation in energy and that it was improper. It's time to make it unattractive. Increasing the margins and capital gain taxes for those that are not hedging on their own needs sounds good to me. The sooner, the better.

I agree that the time to do it is now, and we'll at least see some benefit in a few months. And I don't want to hear Congress saying we need to investigate first. That was already done in 2006 when the US Senate Permanent Subcommittee on Investigations reported on “The Role of Market Speculation in rising oil and gas prices,” that “…there is substantial evidence supporting the conclusion that the large amount of speculation in the current market has significantly increased prices.” Few paid any attention to that report back then, but it does exist.

The biggest problem for us is that since a change in the rules back in 2006, US oil futures can be traded on foreign markets (mostly London's), as Intercontinental Exchange (ICE) transactions, and none of these is regulated by the US government. I heard on one of the financial shows this weekend that oil futures trading on the London markets went from about $13 million dollars in 1995 to over $231 million today. There's a good write-up about ICE here ‘Perhaps 60% of today’s oil price is pure speculation’
 

Larry Gude

Strung Out
The biggest...

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The biggest problem for us is

...the BILLIONS in futures value that will be wiped out if we tax and regulate speculation out of oil. The largest holder of oil in all of New England is, if memory serves, Lehman Brothers. Imagine the political power behind that? How many congresspeople own oil? How many of their more powerful constituents? Whose gonna lift a finger to wipe out that much asset in a fragile economy?

At 20 million barrels a day at $130, that's something like $80 billion a month in contracts coming to market. Nearly a trillion dollars in a year, give or take. That's 1/12 of GDP, or roughly, 8%. Knock 1/3 to half of that out and that instantly puts us in a technical recession as it would wipe out growth for the year.

Of course, the counter argument is that you and I will put it back in anyway buying food, cars, paying out mortgage.
 

bcp

In My Opinion
Some of those grades have to be mismarked, I've been through that section and i swear the 9% grade changed to 10 or 11 without warning.

its beautiful country though
Just got to the campground after pulling that run.
you do seem to be correct.
from Yellowstone to Cody it was a gentle rise at 7%, some hill, some flat some down.
from Cody to Graybull? it was basically flat with the occassional 4%.
From Graybull to Sheridon? JFC!!!!!! The first hill was (no bs here) 14+ miles of 7% ~12% with no flat, and no down. Medicine Wheel was closed due to snow on the road!
then, the down hill was a steady 8% for 11 miles of steady winding around the mountain hairpin turns type of drive.
That uphill was the first time I have ever heard the axillary fans kick on for the engine.
that being said, it had to be one of the most beautiful runs Ive made in some time.
oh, and my final average on MPGs for the run today? 11.6. Not too bad considering I did it with 11800lbs stuck to the back of the truck.
 

Larry Gude

Strung Out
Good...

Just got to the campground after pulling that run.
you do seem to be correct.
from Yellowstone to Cody it was a gentle rise at 7%, some hill, some flat some down.
from Cody to Graybull? it was basically flat with the occassional 4%.
From Graybull to Sheridon? JFC!!!!!! The first hill was (no bs here) 14+ miles of 7% ~12% with no flat, and no down. Medicine Wheel was closed due to snow on the road!
then, the down hill was a steady 8% for 11 miles of steady winding around the mountain hairpin turns type of drive.
That uphill was the first time I have ever heard the axillary fans kick on for the engine.
that being said, it had to be one of the most beautiful runs Ive made in some time.
oh, and my final average on MPGs for the run today? 11.6. Not too bad considering I did it with 11800lbs stuck to the back of the truck.


...stuff there! Interesting...


Thank you
 
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Bruzilla

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...the BILLIONS in futures value that will be wiped out if we tax and regulate speculation out of oil. The largest holder of oil in all of New England is, if memory serves, Lehman Brothers. Imagine the political power behind that? How many congresspeople own oil? How many of their more powerful constituents? Whose gonna lift a finger to wipe out that much asset in a fragile economy?

At 20 million barrels a day at $130, that's something like $80 billion a month in contracts coming to market. Nearly a trillion dollars in a year, give or take. That's 1/12 of GDP, or roughly, 8%. Knock 1/3 to half of that out and that instantly puts us in a technical recession as it would wipe out growth for the year.

Of course, the counter argument is that you and I will put it back in anyway buying food, cars, paying out mortgage.

All that will happen is these folks will pull their money out of oil and move it somewhere else. As long as they move it somewhere that they can't ruin the economy they can make all the money they want.
 
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