Gay Sperm Donors???

[Larry Gude]

http://apnews.myway.com/article/20050505/D89TAFB00.html

Isn't this discriminatory?



Point:

It is likely to affect some lesbian couples who want a child
and prefer to use a gay man's sperm for artificial insemination.

...I mean, think about it.





Dissent!

Gay men are a major donor source at Traiman's Rainbow Flag sperm bank, and he said that practice would continue despite the new rules.

And this is just flat out ####ed up:

However, Traiman said some lesbian couples do not have a gay friend they know and trust well enough to be the biological father of their child, and would thus prefer an anonymous donor

:WTF?:





Bigotry:

said some lesbians prefer to receive sperm from a gay donor because they feel such a man would be more receptive to the concept of a family headed by a same-sex couple.

The fight for the right for men who don't want to do any of the ploughing yet still reap the harvest is on!

 

[RoseRed]

:QueerAsFolk:

 

[virgovictoria]

:inmybestchrisrockvoice: Why can't we all just get along???

 

[vraiblonde]

"Under these rules, a heterosexual man who had unprotected sex with HIV-positive prostitutes would be OK as a donor one year later, but a gay man in a monogamous, safe-sex relationship is not OK unless he's been celibate for five years," said Leland Traiman, director of a clinic in Alameda, Calif., that seeks gay sperm donors.

I have to agree with this. But who cares? Are gay men just lining up to be sperm donors and this is worth fighting for?

I think we should make a law that forbids gays from having sex with and/or marrying someone of the opposite sex. Then watch homosexuality go the way of the dinosaur.

 

[Larry Gude]

And THERE you have it!!!!!!

I think we should make a law that forbids gays from having sex with and/or marrying someone of the opposite sex. Then watch homosexuality go the way of the dinosaur.

It is BEYOND comprehension that a gay would have ANY interest in donating swimmers ACCEPT for being contrary.

My fav; The lez's, no sex with men people, who want to have a baby, the result of having sex with men, and want to get go go juice from MEN who don't want to have sex with women which precludes the result of having sex with the opposite sex, baby.

 

[Lenny]

What about the passage of an unacceptable orientation?

The news and FDA accentuate the risk of passing HIV through donation of anonymous semen. But that's not the risk we should be discussing.

Those on the lavender side of the rainbow claim that homosexuality is a trait "that I was born with!" rather than a learned trait. That says to me that the party line in the Lambda League and others like them is that homosexuality is congenital (not learned) and might be genetically determined.

If I was in a sterile heterosexual couple pondering in vitro fertilization from an anonymous donor, I would hate to have to fear my child might be born 'that way.'

 

[Cletus_Vandam]

The news and FDA accentuate the risk of passing HIV through donation of anonymous semen. But that's not the risk we should be discussing.

Those on the lavender side of the rainbow claim that homosexuality is a trait "that I was born with!" rather than a learned trait. That says to me that the party line in the Lambda League and others like them is that homosexuality is congenital (not learned) and might be genetically determined.

If I was in a sterile heterosexual couple pondering in vitro fertilization from an anonymous donor, I would hate to have to fear my child might be born 'that way.'

I agree with you 100%. I was thinking the same thing as I reading through the replies. I don't think that banning them from being a donor is appropriate, but who ever is receiving the semen should be informed as to the sexual orientation of the donor (due to the reasons that you stated in your reply).

Then we'll see how much of the gay versus straight semen gets used for fertilization.

Do they have similar restrictions/requirements on blood donors???

 

[vraiblonde]

If I was in a sterile heterosexual couple pondering in vitro fertilization from an anonymous donor, I would hate to have to fear my child might be born 'that way.'

Yeah, bring that up and watch them backpedal.

Homosexuality is probably something that one is born with but certainly not inherited genetically or (think about it) there wouldn't BE any gay people, since gays are low reproducers. But I have known gays who actively chose it, so who knows?

Regardless, screen them for HIV or any other diseases, just like you would a heterosexual person, and that should be the end of it.

 

[truby20]

Do they have similar restrictions/requirements on blood donors???

Actually the rules against giving blood are much more stringent.

From the American Red Cross (they will not take your blood because):

(if you) are a male who has had sexual contact with another male, even once, since 1977

That just seems a bit extreme to me....

 

[Lenny]

. . . but certainly not inherited genetically or (think about it) there wouldn't BE any gay people, since gays are low reproducers.

Which is why I contend they continue to recruit people to their dark side. And if they are recruiting, it is the responsibility of society to stop them.

 

[virgovictoria]

This thread cracks my sh#t up!

 

[Bustem' Down]

I think that until we can scientifically determine whether or not homosexuality is genetic or not they shouldn't be allowed. If we find out later that it's just a choice, go ahead and let them, if it's genetic, then no. And before anyone responds with scripture, I say since it's a medical thing, let's let science determine.

 

[Bustem' Down]

Yeah, bring that up and watch them backpedal.

Homosexuality is probably something that one is born with but certainly not inherited genetically or (think about it) there wouldn't BE any gay people, since gays are low reproducers. But I have known gays who actively chose it, so who knows?

Regardless, screen them for HIV or any other diseases, just like you would a heterosexual person, and that should be the end of it.

But you get into that whole recesive gene thing, If it is genetic and they start reproducing more, you have more of a probability of one coming up gay.

 

[virgovictoria]

But you get into that whole recesive gene thing, If it is genetic and they start reproducing more, you have more of a probability of one coming up gay.

HAHAHAHAHAHA

P.S. With probability, each output has the same chance of turning up, so to speak, with each attempt, if this were indeed a genetic issue... Such as eye color. If you have a one in four chance of having a child with blue eyes... Each child you have has a one in four chance of having blue eyes with each conception... It's not an increase in chance with an increase number of children...

 

[vraiblonde]

But you get into that whole recesive gene thing, If it is genetic and they start reproducing more, you have more of a probability of one coming up gay.

I think everyone should go gay - less people in the world that way and I could maybe get good parking spot at the mall.

 

[Bustem' Down]

HAHAHAHAHAHA

P.S. With probability, each output has the same chance of turning up, so to speak, with each attempt, if this were indeed a genetic issue... Such as eye color. If you have a one in four chance of having a child with blue eyes... Each child you have has a one in four chance of having blue eyes with each conception... It's not an increase in chance with an increase number of children...

I failed Biology, just grasping at what little I know hoping someone with more knowledge will explain it better and clearer.

 

[Lenny]

I failed Biology, just grasping at what little I know hoping someone with more knowledge will explain it better and clearer.

You were right. If they produce more the recessive gene becomes more prevalent in the population. VV's point deals with the odds of an individual product of conception having the trait.

 

[truby20]

I think that until we can scientifically determine whether or not homosexuality is genetic or not they shouldn't be allowed. If we find out later that it's just a choice, go ahead and let them, if it's genetic, then no. And before anyone responds with scripture, I say since it's a medical thing, let's let science determine.

So you are suggesting that if we can determine that homosexuality is 100% genetic we should do what we can to prevent persons carrying this trait from reproducing, making it possible that a generation many centuries from now is 100% heterosexual?

Is homosexuality that abhorrent to you?

 

[vraiblonde]

Homosexuality is not an inherited genetic trait. It can't possibly be unless it's so recessive that it has become random. Plus we know that biological children of gays are typically not gay themselves.

So that's a dumb reason to forbid gay men from becoming sperm donors. A better reason would be because they are significantly more likely to have contracted the AIDS virus. And even then, you test their blood and screen them out.

And one more thing:

If the gay guy can produce healthy sperm, and the hetero guy can't, who is the biological mistake here?

 

[dems4me]

I think everyone should go gay - less people in the world that way and I could maybe get good parking spot at the mall.

and better selection of hair dressers and waiters once inside the mall