Girls Locker Rooms, Gov, Trans[people]

[GURPS]

Countdown: District Has 30 Days to Change Transgender Student Locker Room Policy or Lose Federal Funds


Students should not be forced to share open changing areas with students who retain the anatomy of a different sex, even if such students identify as being the same sex. This is just common sense. It also honors the privacy rights of students, who understandably may feel uncomfortable with open area changing that includes students of both biological sexes.

In a report released Monday, the Department of Education’s Office of Civil Rights acknowledged the arguments made by District 211 regarding the privacy rights of the non-transgender students:

The District raised two specific constitutional privacy concerns. First, the District contends that ‘permitting Student A to be present in the locker room would expose female students to being observed in a state of undress by a biologically male individual.’ The District’s second stated privacy concern is that it would be inappropriate for young female students to view a naked male in the locker room in a state of undress. The District stated that ‘[g]ranting Student A the option to change her clothes in the girls’ locker room would expose female students as young as fifteen years of age to a biologically male body.’​

The Department of Education’s response? “OCR [Office of Civil Rights] finds the concerns unavailing in this case.”

It’s clear that the federal government is putting the preferences of transgender students ahead of the privacy rights of other students. That’s discrimination—against students who, reasonably and fairly, don’t want to be forced into intimate situations with those of the opposite sex biologically.

the needs of the few or the one, don't out weigh the needs of the many

 

[Hodr]

Seems like such a trivially easy answer. You shower with the people with matching private parts, because the thought should be "I have one(s), therefore I am not interested in yours". Unless they are also contemplating removing all gay children from showers as well.

If the transgendered student is actually on hormone therapy and has had the big surgery, then they now have the matching bits.

But honestly, why are we still taking communal showers like cattle? Even when I graduated school (way, way back when) we had separate clothing for P.E. and a half dozen private shower stalls for those that felt they needed to shower before the next period. I never saw anyone using them.

 

[vraiblonde]

But honestly, why are we still taking communal showers like cattle?

Space and money.

Since transgender is such a small wee little bitty infinitesimal demographic, why not simply install a separate unisex bath facility? Many public venues have "family" restrooms or one specifically outfitted for handicapped persons, so why not a unisex one? That seems like an easy solution and should (but probably won't) make everyone happy.

 

[Hijinx]

Space and money.

Since transgender is such a small wee little bitty infinitesimal demographic, why not simply install a separate unisex bath facility? Many public venues have "family" restrooms or one specifically outfitted for handicapped persons, so why not a unisex one? That seems like an easy solution and should (but probably won't) make everyone happy.

That would sound like the smart way to work out the problem.

Not the Government way.

As soon as they had a separate shower either the transgender would feel it wasn't as good as the other shower, or the other shower users would say that the transgender shower was better and complain. Or the transgender would complain that he wasn't treated the same way as the real girls.

 

[GURPS]

That seems like an easy solution and should (but probably won't) make everyone happy.

Nope, these people want to make your daughter shower with boys

 

[Monello]

I don't think they can have a single bathroom with a door that locks. If they did, I'm sure lots of teens will find a way to get in there, lock the door, and do who knows what.

 

[GURPS]

.... teens will find a way to get in there, lock the door ...

boinking my gf

 

[glhs837]

I don't think they can have a single bathroom with a door that locks. If they did, I'm sure lots of teens will find a way to get in there, lock the door, and do who knows what.

Oh come now, Sir, you know exactly what......

 

[Hijinx]

Well the easy answer is for the girls to not shower until this guy leaves the room. If that makes them late for their next class eventually a schedule will be worked out.

 

[GURPS]

yeah and of 'HE' gets a boner, kick his ass out ... he is obviously still attracted to girls - oh wait, he'll claim to me a lesbian