morningbell
hmmmmmm
i was just having some fun i didnt take it personally
Thankfully, being on this forum is helping my thick skin grow. Now if could only apply it to the real worl with all those scary people.
Going Organic with the Kids
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Thankfully, being on this forum is helping my thick skin grow. Now if could only apply it to the real worl with all those scary people.
Cowgirl
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Geek, here's my opinion. If you're going to start getting some organic foods, I'd start with fruits/veggies and maybe chicken. Veggies are getting chemical sprayed directly on them. I just think there's a higher change of ingesting chemicals on plant materials rather than in meat or dairy. I would be the least concerned with dairy. Milk is tested every time it leaves the farm. The farmers are supposed to follow propery withdrawal protocols with antibiotics, and if they contaminate the milk supply, they're responsible for buying the whole milk tanker (thousands and thousands of dollars), so they're very careful. The only thing I'd look for in dairy is rBST free, and for me, I'm doing that for the cows' welfare, not my own. 
As for meat, I'd be more worried about chicken than beef, just because of what they're fed. I can't wait until I can raise all of my own meats.
As for meat, I'd be more worried about chicken than beef, just because of what they're fed. I can't wait until I can raise all of my own meats.
morningbell
hmmmmmm
Geek, here's my opinion. If you're going to start getting some organic foods, I'd start with fruits/veggies and maybe chicken. Veggies are getting chemical sprayed directly on them. I just think there's a higher change of ingesting chemicals on plant materials rather than in meat or dairy. I would be the least concerned with dairy. Milk is tested every time it leaves the farm. The farmers are supposed to follow propery withdrawal protocols with antibiotics, and if they contaminate the milk supply, they're responsible for buying the whole milk tanker (thousands and thousands of dollars), so they're very careful. The only thing I'd look for in dairy is rBST free, and for me, I'm doing that for the cows' welfare, not my own.
As for meat, I'd be more worried about chicken than beef, just because of what they're fed. I can't wait until I can raise all of my own meats.
That would be really nice!
PrepH4U
New Member
That's kinda a silly question, if someone wants to choose to go to a hairdresser whats the beef? So you are saying that by cutting out some chemicals is not a good thing? :shrug: Do you know how many chemicals are in deordorant and toothpaste? I would hope you would not give those up while looking for an alternative
SPF001
New Member
We looked into raising organic beef but the rules were crazy. Most local farms that have beef are not certified organic but use organic practices. When we thinking about it we thought about keeping the animals over the winter. Wrong idea hay is expensive but for the meat to be organic it has to eat only organic stuff. Not much organic hay around here. We just decided to raise 2 calves and not do antiboitics or steriods and have them hang out with the rest of our animals. Butchering is only .50/lbs so the plan is to keep one side for the family and sell the other sides to pay for hay, calves and butchering. We will see how it works out. The last side of beef we got was from the 4H auction and it is great.
Simple Pleasures Farm
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Cowgirl
Well-Known Member
It's not that hard to raise them organic if you have a feed source. You can even get your land certified. There's only a 3 year transition period for land. It's really expensive to certify organic though, so unless you were planning on raising a good number of beeves, you probably just want to do "natural."
MMDad
Lem Putt
That's kinda a silly question, if someone wants to choose to go to a hairdresser whats the beef? So you are saying that by cutting out some chemicals is not a good thing? :shrug: Do you know how many chemicals are in deordorant and toothpaste? I would hope you would not give those up while looking for an alternative
I'm not giving those things up, but I'm also not doubling my food bill because I have an irrational paranoia about food safety.
It just seems ironic to pay extra not to have chemicals in your food, then to pay to be exposed to chemicals. Don't you see the irony at all?
itsbob
I bowl overhand
I thought ALL honey was raw.. the reason you're not supposed to feed it to infants..
:sucker:
Cowgirl
Well-Known Member
morningbell
hmmmmmm
I dunno
but seriously, yes I did get my hair colored, I never did that ever before (I had red & pink berfore but they were Manic Panic dyes). I figured just try it because I'm starting to feel old. Plus I'm really starting to be lax about some things in my old age. I still juice, I still eat lots of raw and organic when I can and I still take fish oil and CoQ10. Pretty soon I'll be living the life in Del Boca Vista.
morningbell
hmmmmmm
Apperently the hive must be 2 miles away from any area that is sparyed.
You can buy honey in the raw state as well. Most honey is heat treated and pasturized to prevent crystalization.
Geek
New Member
I wouldn't be a sticker for certified organic if I knew the farmer was natural. I have a garden in the back, but I suck at gardening.
Thanks for all the opinions guys
Cowgirl
Well-Known Member
morningbell
hmmmmmm
Hmm, I didn't know that! I heard it on Dirty Jobs.
They find all sorts of ways to say something is organic. The bananas we get are from out of the country, labled organic but then are irradiated but the loop hole is that they are grown organically. Same goes for mango, pineapple and papaya.
itsbob
I bowl overhand
Is honey pasteurized?
No. Honey is by nature very low in bacteria and other microbes and does not benefit from a pasteurization process.
And 2 miles.. do they have an invisible force field to keep the bees away from my sprayed pear tree??
itsbob
I bowl overhand
Is honey pasteurized?
No. Honey is by nature very low in bacteria and other microbes and does not benefit from a pasteurization process.
Does honey spoil?
Honey will keep indefinitely if stored in a sealed container. It is best stored at room temperature. Refrigeration promotes granulation.
Does honey change as it ages?
Honey darkens with age and becomes a bit stronger in flavor. It will not spoil.
Even better!
And AGAIN.. :sucker:
No. Honey is by nature very low in bacteria and other microbes and does not benefit from a pasteurization process.
Does honey spoil?
Honey will keep indefinitely if stored in a sealed container. It is best stored at room temperature. Refrigeration promotes granulation.
Does honey change as it ages?
Honey darkens with age and becomes a bit stronger in flavor. It will not spoil.
Even better!
And AGAIN.. :sucker:
Cowgirl
Well-Known Member
I guess they assume bees won't travel farther than 2 miles. :shrug:
itsbob
I bowl overhand
2 miles isn't even half of their 5 mile range.
Cowgirl
Well-Known Member
:shrug: I don't make the rules.
Certified Organic has some bogus rules, that's why I wouldn't certify if I was growing/raising something.