Got a Speeding ticket...

jackers

New Member
As they should, All over the state. Too many people think they can "travel the speed I deem safe" with no regard to the laws and then ##### and complain about the ones who do obey.

Rt 4 is kind of like all the colleges getting hammered in the NCAA lately. If everyone is getting in trouble, maybe it's not the players and coaches that are bad, maybe its a result of idiotic rules. Maybe our all-knowing leaders should raise the speed limit to 65, which everyone knows is what the limit on Rt 4 should be.
 

bcp

In My Opinion
Rt 4 is kind of like all the colleges getting hammered in the NCAA lately. If everyone is getting in trouble, maybe it's not the players and coaches that are bad, maybe its a result of idiotic rules. Maybe our all-knowing leaders should raise the speed limit to 65, which everyone knows is what the limit on Rt 4 should be.

so, you are saying that if they raise the limit to 65, nobody will ever speed again?
what if they raise it to 65 then people start driving 75, should they raise it again?
 

Larry Gude

Strung Out
Wonder if that video was for real?

I'm going to just assume (there's that word) that it is and say, F-ing awesome.

but, it could have been much better if all the sheep would have maintained the same speed.

Of course it is for real. And don't pretend you don't know anything about sheep. :lol:
 

jackers

New Member
so, you are saying that if they raise the limit to 65, nobody will ever speed again?
what if they raise it to 65 then people start driving 75, should they raise it again?

Where did I say anything like that? Please don't put words in my mouth.

I am saying that if the limit was raised to 65, the overall flow of traffic would increase because of the decrease in differential speed, which is what the real problem is (slow and fast people on the same road).

Would every person now stick to 65, of course not. But at least history has shown that the differential speed would be reduced.
 

Larry Gude

Strung Out
well, I never lit mine up like that, don't really want them to be that noticeable at night if you know what I mean.

Point taken.

It seems in New Zealand, one is permitted, in fact encouraged, to publicly, and in groups, play with the sheep at night.

I am trying to imagine women that off putting.
 

bcp

In My Opinion
Where did I say anything like that? Please don't put words in my mouth.

I am saying that if the limit was raised to 65, the overall flow of traffic would increase because of the decrease in differential speed, which is what the real problem is (slow and fast people on the same road).

Would every person now stick to 65, of course not. But at least history has shown that the differential speed would be reduced.

You know, In just the last 4 years I have crossed country 3 times on vacations, and one thing I noticed is that people drive 10 to 15 over the speed limit on most roads.
If the limit is 65 you can bet that some are going to travel at 75 to 80, when the speed goes up to 75 those same people will up their speed accordingly.
Based on observation I can pretty much tell you that if people are doing 65 in a 55 and you raise the limit to 65, then those that did the speed limit before will step up to 65, and those that sped before will step up to 75. the differential wont change, only the amount of damage when the accident occurs will change.

I might agree with raising the limit on some roads to meet what seems to be general speed, but only if fines were seriously increased for those caught speeding after the limit was raised.
 

itsbob

I bowl overhand
Got a ticket yesterday morning on my bike. 64 in a 55 what a bitttch. $80.
Female sherriff cut no breaks. Tried to keep it around 60 but i guess i caught a gust of wind. It was kinda cold a somewhat windy.
Anyway does anyone know the procedure for maybe getting the points dropped ? I will reluctantly pay the fine.
On the citation it has three options:
1. pay the fine.
2. request waifer hearing.
3.request trial date.
I'm guessing #2.
Does Calvert offer Community service in lieu of points and maybe fine?
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
:whistle:

64 in a 55? I'd be ashamed to admit that on the forums.
 

bcp

In My Opinion
Point taken.

It seems in New Zealand, one is permitted, in fact encouraged, to publicly, and in groups, play with the sheep at night.

I am trying to imagine women that off putting.

I have to use great caution when speaking of sheep.
the last time I engaged in such conversation I ended up losing posting privilege for a few days and this still shows in my user CP
2-14-2008
11:42 AM Expired 5 Knock it off - you're not funny

So as you can see, it could be of great benefit not to go into any greater detail than I already have.. I might have gone too far this time.. we will see.
 
Where did I say anything like that? Please don't put words in my mouth.

I am saying that if the limit was raised to 65, the overall flow of traffic would increase because of the decrease in differential speed, which is what the real problem is (slow and fast people on the same road).

Would every person now stick to 65, of course not. But at least history has shown that the differential speed would be reduced.

Not so sure about that. There are many who feel 55 is just fine and won't go 65 just because the limit was raised. Now you have an even greater disparity between fast and slow and reduced time to react due to the higher speed of only some.

Most major highways with long straight stretches of clear road are only 65 mph. Rt 4 is a narrow, winding road with lots of blind turns, intersections, lights, and local traffic. 65 is too fast for most portions of that road.
 

glhs837

Power with Control
You know, In just the last 4 years I have crossed country 3 times on vacations, and one thing I noticed is that people drive 10 to 15 over the speed limit on most roads.
If the limit is 65 you can bet that some are going to travel at 75 to 80, when the speed goes up to 75 those same people will up their speed accordingly.
Based on observation I can pretty much tell you that if people are doing 65 in a 55 and you raise the limit to 65, then those that did the speed limit before will step up to 65, and those that sped before will step up to 75. the differential wont change, only the amount of damage when the accident occurs will change.

I might agree with raising the limit on some roads to meet what seems to be general speed, but only if fines were seriously increased for those caught speeding after the limit was raised.



Where you see a speed increase on a roadway after a change in the limit indicates that the limit was set artificially low, generally speaking. Speed limits are supposed to be set, barring other factors like a lot of driveways, to what the 85th percentile drives.

So, if %85 of the drivers on a roadway are doing 65 (and quite honestly, I really thing that's where the Rt 4 average is) and you raise it to 75, you wont see to many going over that. But, folks going 65 on Rt 4 are not going 65 because that's where they feel safe, but only because that's where they feel safe from the police giving them a ticket.

And while there are parts of Rt 4 that need to be 45 or 55, most of that roadway outside congested areas like PF and Dunkirk is fine at higher speeds, given attention to the road and any car that's not a pile of crap. visibility is good, and if folks wouldn't enter the roadway at 25mph and take 3 minutes to get up to speed, it would be a lot safer.
 

glhs837

Power with Control
Not so sure about that. There are many who feel 55 is just fine and won't go 65 just because the limit was raised. Now you have an even greater disparity between fast and slow and reduced time to react due to the higher speed of only some.

Most major highways with long straight stretches of clear road are only 65 mph. Rt 4 is a narrow, winding road with lots of blind turns, intersections, lights, and local traffic. 65 is too fast for most portions of that road.

That's because Maryland wont raise them, not for any reason related to safety.
 

calvcopf

Well-Known Member
The last ticket that I got, I went to court and the cop did not show up. There were 5 of us that all had tickets from the same cop. Charges were dismissed for all of us, but it did take a couple hours out of my day. So, if you can make it to court, it is worth your time, even if the cop does show up, the judge can impose a lesser fine or no points.
 

Papi4baby

New Member
Go to the court and speak with someone at the DA's office.

Asked if they will remove the tickets for some volunteer work.



And if you do go to court and have a good driving record. Ask for PBJ in lieu of the points and take some community service.
 
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