Gun classes
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NextJen
Raisin cane
Hopefully you aren't mistaking me for a liberal. My statement about taking a life was not meant to be some sort of gun ownership bashing. People are killed accidentally with guns.
Why not bring classes back to schools? Maybe liberals would be less 'afraid' of guns if they were taught that guns are not inherently evil? In the proper hands, very useful...in the hands of the uneducated or mentally unstable, then we have problems.
Chasey_Lane
Salt Life
How about let parents decide if they want their child(ren) to know proper gun use and safe handling.
How would safe gun handling prevent a death if guns are not allowed in schools?
GWguy
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You'd have a lot of opposition, first because of the zero gun tolerance in schools, and second because you'd have more parents opposing it than for it. Also not sure that would help matters, because the responsible kids would take it responsibly as usual, and the ones that could potentially be a problem would either not take it seriously or figure out a way to use it to their (dis)advantage.
When I was in High School back in the 70's, I was on the Rifle Team. The range was below the gym. It wasn't even a second thought to allow us to have and use competition rifles. Walked out of practice with pockets full of ammo, on to the bus and home. One year when the range was being worked on, we were all given our rifles to take home for the summer. Again, on the bus and home. There was never a thought that it would ever be used as a weapon, and that thought never crossed the minds of the kids with the guns.
There is something radically different between today's kids and when I was growing up.
When I was in High School back in the 70's, I was on the Rifle Team. The range was below the gym. It wasn't even a second thought to allow us to have and use competition rifles. Walked out of practice with pockets full of ammo, on to the bus and home. One year when the range was being worked on, we were all given our rifles to take home for the summer. Again, on the bus and home. There was never a thought that it would ever be used as a weapon, and that thought never crossed the minds of the kids with the guns.
There is something radically different between today's kids and when I was growing up.
NextJen
Raisin cane
How about let parents decide if they want their child(ren) to know proper gun use and safe handling.
How would safe gun handling prevent a death if guns are not allowed in schools?
Parents should decide if their kids take the class. That is why I said as an elective class, so it is not required. Maybe even have the parents sign a permission slip in addition to just a student signing up.
Ok, I realize that guns are not allowed in school. But, kids don't have sex in sex ed either (well, they aren't supposed to). I'm talking a course where there are handouts, gun safety rules tests on paper, and possibly plastic or polymer gun simulators that teach the basic mechanics of the gun. No real guns and certainly no ammunition.
NextJen
Raisin cane
You made me think of an argument used for teaching sex ed in schools where people say kids won't have sex just because you teach them sex ed.
Maybe a 'gun safety' class could be billed similarly? Knowing how to safely handle a firearm doesn't mean you will run out and use one.
Larry Gude
Strung Out
GWguy
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That just brought back memories of going to matches with other schools. We'd pile on to a bus, 10-15 of us, wearing our competition rifle jackets, all hand-carrying our rifles, and drive away down crowded highways.
Can you imagine the horror today if anyone saw that?
Anyway, back to the topic: maybe the local gun club or NRA could provide training as an extra-curricular activity. It would take a lot for schools to sponsor a gun training program.
Can you imagine the horror today if anyone saw that?
Anyway, back to the topic: maybe the local gun club or NRA could provide training as an extra-curricular activity. It would take a lot for schools to sponsor a gun training program.
Heck a couple of the boys walked in my home with their rifles after target practice and the neighbor totally freaked out. Made our police neighbor come over to check things out. He thought it was hilarious.
GWguy
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Goes back to the thought that only responsible people will follow the law. Those who want to break the law and obtain guns illegally still will, and those are the people to be concerned with, not the folks willing to get licensed.
Exactly.
Cheeky1
Yae warsh wif' wutr
Great idea. First, though, change the language.
Gun = Firearm. Say firearm, or rifle. . .whatever, anything but 'gun'. I know what you are talking about, but to a person who may be scarred by a criminal with a 'gun'. . .you have to be aware of who you are presenting this to.
Two, it is really up to the parents. The reason the classes were removed was because the right parents, showed up to the right meeting, and #####ed the right way to the right people to get what they want. To reverse the decision and re-instate the material in the classroom, the same thing needs to happen. That requires active involvement. Are you active?
NextJen
Raisin cane
Good point! I slipped up. I usually always try to say 'firearm' in discussions. Many people love to use the word 'weapon'. I try hard NEVER to say that.
itsbob
I bowl overhand
Progressive's Came to Power in more places ...........
awesome story - the shooting range at my wife's school was under the basket ball court
AND OSHA and the EPA have ensured almost all of those are now closed..
Many are still there because of the cost of Lead Mitigation and Clean Up, they just seal up the ranges and leave them.
Many of our National Guard Armories have VERY nice ranges (how is a week-end warrior going to stay proficient when there is no place local to shoot?).. that are locked up and sealed, never to be used again. Now they have to climb on a bus, and in most cases travel to a military base to use their outdoor ranges to qualify (if they do at all).
Vince
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Back when schools still had rifle teams. Wonder if you can find a school today that has one?
