Well Americans are still losing out on jobs ... the workers brought here are working below the growing rate
H1B Visa Drama [ IS Over - Elon Surrenders ]
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Well Americans are still losing out on jobs ... the workers brought here are working below the growing rate
PeoplesElbow
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Got to be honest, you post so much crap from twitter feeds I don't read 99% of what you post.
Yeah Fair Enough, there is a lot going on in the world, and commentary on Twix posts are generally comedy gold
BOP
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Clem72
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Not particularly good for anything except padding corporate bottom lines. Intended to be used to bring in skilled labor where none can be found. Instead they are used to bring in bottom tier talent to work under conditions few natives would agree to regardless of remuneration.
For instance, far and away the #1 use of H1B visas is for temp-work agencies like TaTa. That shouldn't be allowed because by nature those aren't critically needed jobs, their customers may have critical needs but if so they should go through the process themselves.
Clem72
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Typically they aren't. They actually make decent wages (they need to be paid the prevailing wage for the industry/position/location being filled). But you can guarantee they are working a lot more hours and not getting things like sick/holiday/401k. I knew an H1B working for SRI on the development team for Siri (which they sold to Apple) and he was actually a talented developer and amazingly was from Germany rather than India. He was making around $300k a year like 20 years ago, but he also basically lived at the office. His plan was to work 4 or 5 years then return home with enough money to start his own business. There are H1Bs working at Google, making Google money. But for every 1 H1B who is good enough to head a team at a FAANG company there are 20 that completely fabricated their qualifications and end up at temp agencies like Tata to be used for the most menial IT tasks and worked like dogs (but well paid dogs).
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22AcaciaAve
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I believe Trump has the best interests of Americans at heart. I do not trust the other two in that respect. I don't think eliminating the program is the right way to go, but perhaps some reform and tighter controls are needed. I hope Trump follows his instinct instead of listening to the douche brothers. Time will tell. Let Uncle Elon go to war on this issue. He has no real power. The only power he has comes from Trump and at some point maybe Trump will put him in his place.
WingsOfGold
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I might read some of your stuff but computer won't fit on shitter. Now maybe........ .02%
Looks to me like the entire process has been worked - and Vivek wants to blame US for being lazy. Yeah - we weren't watching the system being played.
I always thought the purpose of these programs was to do sometimg the U.S. has been doing a long time - and I am in favor of it. Attracting the best and the brightest from all around the world. They like to call it "brain drain".
Seems like too many have been gaming it for too long. We're not getting the benefit.
I always thought the purpose of these programs was to do sometimg the U.S. has been doing a long time - and I am in favor of it. Attracting the best and the brightest from all around the world. They like to call it "brain drain".
Seems like too many have been gaming it for too long. We're not getting the benefit.
Hijinx
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All of a sudden we are worried about H-1 Visa's Like they just started existing because Trump was elected.
Where were these complaining mother truckers for the last 4 years. The Dems had plenty of time to fix it if it is broken, but they were too busy haunting Trump with BS lawfare .
If Musk used H-1 so what? It's like the loopholes that are in the tax laws. Why bitch about someone using them? Don't we all use them. If there is a problem you Congressional dipshts make the rules, Fix it.
It seems high priced employees in high paying jobs are the ones complaining, they didn't complain when millions of illegals took the jobs of low income workers. They were all for it.
Where were these complaining mother truckers for the last 4 years. The Dems had plenty of time to fix it if it is broken, but they were too busy haunting Trump with BS lawfare .
If Musk used H-1 so what? It's like the loopholes that are in the tax laws. Why bitch about someone using them? Don't we all use them. If there is a problem you Congressional dipshts make the rules, Fix it.
It seems high priced employees in high paying jobs are the ones complaining, they didn't complain when millions of illegals took the jobs of low income workers. They were all for it.
I'd prefer to think Vivek is saying our college/university education system is f'ed. We're handing out loan money like candy for BS degrees that will never pay back on the investment. Want more American engineers, give the loans to STEM degrees?
We had a few H1B hires over the last 30+ years of operations. They were needed because they had very specialized maritime industry skills and experience not available from anyone in the US at the time. It was freaking expensive to go through the process of hiring them too!....I don't recall how much exactly but I do recall it was a big chunk and a significant factor in deciding to go ahead with a hire like that.
Hill monkeys need love too!
Except he explicitly says it starts before college. He goes to absurd lengths to blame it on a culture that rewards mediocrity.
Well it does start before college. Look at SMC's latest math and reading proficiency scores. Educators get excited if students break 25% in math. We HAVE become a culture that rewards mediocrity.