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Independence

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I need some guidance. My sister's neighbors (off of Chancellor's Run Road) have a German Shepard and a Min-pin that they leave tied out all day with no shelter. Yesterday those poor pups were out in the rain all day. We called Animal Control but they FINALLY took them in. I'm not sure if AC got there last night or not. The GS barks all the time when he's outside so they bought a bark collar. The collar shorted out and burned the dogs neck. They didn't even realize it until his neck got a bad infection. My mom wants to keep the peace but we can't allow these animals to be treated like that. Any guidance/suggestions would be appreciated.
 
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Bronwyn

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I need some guidance. My sister's neighbors (off of Chancellor's Run Road) have a German Shepard and a Min-pin that they leave tied out all day with no shelter. Yesterday those poor pups were out in the rain all day. We called Animal Control but they FINALLY took them in. I'm not sure if AC got there last night or not. The GS barks all the time when he's outside so they bought a bark collar. The collar shorted out and burned the dogs neck. They didn't even realize it until his neck got a bad infection. My mom wants to keep the peace but we can't allow these animals to be treated like that. Any guidance/suggestions would be appreciated.

Keep reporting it and sending AC out until they either get the message or lose their pups.
 
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jp2854

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i agree with catt. Poor pups yesterday was a very nasty day and today its very windy and cold out there. i hope htey don't chain the dogs up out there all day today.
 

Independence

New Member
We will keep calling. Yesterday was the last straw.. they do bring them in at night but they cannot be outside all day without any shelter.

Thanks so much for your help. I hope they will do the right thing by these dogs. It just makes me so mad. I try to do everything right and I lose my boy way to early and people like this...ugh....
 

thatguy

New Member
I need some guidance. My sister's neighbors (off of Chancellor's Run Road) have a German Shepard and a Min-pin that they leave tied out all day with no shelter. Yesterday those poor pups were out in the rain all day. We called Animal Control but they FINALLY took them in. I'm not sure if AC got there last night or not. The GS barks all the time when he's outside so they bought a bark collar. The collar shorted out and burned the dogs neck. They didn't even realize it until his neck got a bad infection. My mom wants to keep the peace but we can't allow these animals to be treated like that. Any guidance/suggestions would be appreciated.

isounds like you are overreacting and need to MYOB to me.

I am willing to bet that animal control found there to be shelter and didn't do anything as a result.
If these folks are bringing their dogs in at night they obviously care for them.
 

cattitude

My Sweetest Boy
isounds like you are overreacting and need to MYOB to me.

I am willing to bet that animal control found there to be shelter and didn't do anything as a result.
If these folks are bringing their dogs in at night they obviously care for them.

SHUT UP.
 

checkingthenews

C'mon...Smile!
We will keep calling. Yesterday was the last straw.. they do bring them in at night but they cannot be outside all day without any shelter.

Thanks so much for your help. I hope they will do the right thing by these dogs. It just makes me so mad. I try to do everything right and I lose my boy way to early and people like this...ugh....

I understand exactly. I have neighbors behind me. They keep their dog out 24/7, winter, spring, summer, fall. Rain, snow, thunder, lightening, you name it. I've called numerous times...AC went their twice and they still have the dog. AC told me this. As long as there is a dog house out in their backyard, they cannot take the dog. I told them they just tossed that out there one day and the dog DOES NOT use it. They also have 2 sheds in back and they keep the doors open...so they say this is shelter...dog only once in a great while will go in the sheds. they leave a 20lb bag of dog food outside....in the rain...It sickens me. I even called them myself and said, not sure you realize it but it is pouring down rain and your dog is outside. She thanked me and we hung up. That next day, she called me...she informed me that her dog is well taken care of and has protection from the weather and she didn't appreciate my call. So, I guess my note to you is good luck!
 

CountryLady

luvmyponies
I understand exactly. I have neighbors behind me. They keep their dog out 24/7, winter, spring, summer, fall. Rain, snow, thunder, lightening, you name it. I've called numerous times...AC went their twice and they still have the dog. AC told me this. As long as there is a dog house out in their backyard, they cannot take the dog. I told them they just tossed that out there one day and the dog DOES NOT use it. They also have 2 sheds in back and they keep the doors open...so they say this is shelter...dog only once in a great while will go in the sheds. they leave a 20lb bag of dog food outside....in the rain...It sickens me. I even called them myself and said, not sure you realize it but it is pouring down rain and your dog is outside. She thanked me and we hung up. That next day, she called me...she informed me that her dog is well taken care of and has protection from the weather and she didn't appreciate my call. So, I guess my note to you is good luck!


It is different when they have shelter available and do not use it.

My old rottie shepard would rather lay in the snow then go in his dog house. If it was light rain he may or may not go in. Heavy rain he usually would... and He def would if it was lightning. But I have also had a dog to leave the front porch and go out into the rain, because he liked the water.

If they have shelter available and choose not to go, that is ok IMO. And to continue to call animal control in that case could be considered harassment.

The problem here is it sounds like they do not have shelter available.
BIG DIFFERENCE.
 

checkingthenews

C'mon...Smile!
It is different when they have shelter available and do not use it.

My old rottie shepard would rather lay in the snow then go in his dog house. If it was light rain he may or may not go in. Heavy rain he usually would... and He def would if it was lightning. But I have also had a dog to leave the front porch and go out into the rain, because he liked the water.

If they have shelter available and choose not to go, that is ok IMO. And to continue to call animal control in that case could be considered harassment.

The problem here is it sounds like they do not have shelter available.
BIG DIFFERENCE.

Your CAPS show you are angry...why? There isn't much difference really. When they got this dog as a puppy it had no dog house, no sheds to go into...so as an older dog, it just doesn't know to go into the dog house. Like I said, it rarely goes in the shed, yes, appears to be a dumb dog but still similar situation as yours in regards to taking care of a dog. Like today for example, the dog is outside laying up as close to the house as it can...and I have to see it every time I look out my kitchen window.
 

CountryLady

luvmyponies
Your CAPS show you are angry...why? There isn't much difference really. When they got this dog as a puppy it had no dog house, no sheds to go into...so as an older dog, it just doesn't know to go into the dog house. Like I said, it rarely goes in the shed, yes, appears to be a dumb dog but still similar situation as yours in regards to taking care of a dog. Like today for example, the dog is outside laying up as close to the house as it can...and I have to see it every time I look out my kitchen window.

Not angry at all, just emphasizing the fact it is a big difference in having a dog house and choosing not to use it vs. no dog house at all. The difference is HUGE in comparison.


I’m not sure I buy that the dog doesn’t know to seek shelter if available.

I think that most dogs are born with basic survival instincts. Seeking food and water being on the top and shelter when needed close behind. Depending on the breed, shelter requirements (more so the animals' need to seek shelter), may vary.

The law says to provide it, not force them to use it.
My rottie Sheppard HATED BEING in the house until his last few years.
He paced the floor all night. As soon as somebody got up, he wanted OUT!
He had a thick undercoat and hated to be inside even in the summer. In the summer we provide him a swimming pool which he also loved, (not required by law, just by our lovable big dog).

The other side of the storey is that He LOVED to be on the "look-out" outside!

Instinctively, Dogs seek:
shade when they are hot –( I never had to teach my dogs to seek shade under a tree or porch or whatever else they can find to crawl under when they need to)

water when they are thirsty -(I never had to teach my dogs how to drink out of a mud puddle or pond when they were thirsty)

food when they are hungry

shelter accordingly as required by them.

I think a lot of the time we insist that if we are cold and wet and miserable, that the animal must be too. :whistle:

The problem is when humans force them to be confined to an area, where the shelter is NOT PROVIDED (or they can't get to it).

Having horses we provide them VERY NICE run-in shelters and a large canopy of trees for them to use as they wish. AND quite often I arrive at the farm to see them standing in the rain. The shelter is available to them , they just choose not to use all the time.
:buddies:

So what i am hearing is, "that it pulls on your heart strings" to see the dog outside up against the house in the rain. There is a house that the dog doesn't appear to like (or understand how to use) due to lack of use.

But what I am guessing is that the dog probably prefers to be "on the look-out" keeping a watchful eye on its owners place, and that if it really wanted to it could seek shelter in the means provided to it which it apparently has (up against the house). I am sure that was all that was required by the dog at the time. ((this is assuming that the dog house is adequate in size etc...) some doghouses are actually colder inside than lying on the ground)

Just another way of looking at it.
:coffee:
 

CountryLady

luvmyponies
I need some guidance. My sister's neighbors (off of Chancellor's Run Road) have a German Shepard and a Min-pin that they leave tied out all day with no shelter. Yesterday those poor pups were out in the rain all day. We called Animal Control but they FINALLY took them in. I'm not sure if AC got there last night or not. The GS barks all the time when he's outside so they bought a bark collar. The collar shorted out and burned the dogs neck. They didn't even realize it until his neck got a bad infection. My mom wants to keep the peace but we can't allow these animals to be treated like that. Any guidance/suggestions would be appreciated.

so,...... does the dog inquestion have a dog house available to it at all?
 

BeverlyJ

New Member
Keep calling. If there truely is no shelter available to them, this is against the law so call the cops and call the AC. The min-pin is especially at risk as that breed does not have enough body mass or coat thickness to stay warm in cold weather, even when dry.
 

Mama_Mia08

New Member
I need some guidance. My sister's neighbors (off of Chancellor's Run Road) have a German Shepard and a Min-pin that they leave tied out all day with no shelter. Yesterday those poor pups were out in the rain all day. We called Animal Control but they FINALLY took them in. I'm not sure if AC got there last night or not. The GS barks all the time when he's outside so they bought a bark collar. The collar shorted out and burned the dogs neck. They didn't even realize it until his neck got a bad infection. My mom wants to keep the peace but we can't allow these animals to be treated like that. Any guidance/suggestions would be appreciated.

I get so annoyed with this type of thing. I think you should call AC when you think the dog is being mistreated as long as it is within reason. They collar shorting out and burning the dog is horrible. People want animals but yet they don't want to take care of them. Also, if the dog barks all the time that is so disrespectful to the neighbors. I am dealing with that now and it is soooo frustrating.

As far as the dog house argument on here IMO, if the dog has a house and doesn't use it I don't think that is neglect or abuse. However, if the owners cared for the dog then they wouldn't keep the dog outside.

What does AC say when you call and make a report? Can you report anonymously? I am thinking of calling them myself regarding the neighbors "pet cats" that are outside cats. I'm fed up with the messes.
 

thatguy

New Member
I get so annoyed with this type of thing. I think you should call AC when you think the dog is being mistreated as long as it is within reason. They collar shorting out and burning the dog is horrible. People want animals but yet they don't want to take care of them. Also, if the dog barks all the time that is so disrespectful to the neighbors. I am dealing with that now and it is soooo frustrating.

As far as the dog house argument on here IMO, if the dog has a house and doesn't use it I don't think that is neglect or abuse. However, if the owners cared for the dog then they wouldn't keep the dog outside.

What does AC say when you call and make a report? Can you report anonymously? I am thinking of calling them myself regarding the neighbors "pet cats" that are outside cats. I'm fed up with the messes.

there is no reason to thionk that people who keep their pets outside do not care for them. In fact, if the yard is properly fenced, it might be the best situation for the dog.
as for outside cats, AC will suggest you put out live traps and they will happily take them to the pound. I am sure that will be much better than the live they lead now :sarcasm:
i suggest you all myob until there is a real reason to call AC
 

Mama_Mia08

New Member
there is no reason to thionk that people who keep their pets outside do not care for them. In fact, if the yard is properly fenced, it might be the best situation for the dog.
as for outside cats, AC will suggest you put out live traps and they will happily take them to the pound. I am sure that will be much better than the live they lead now :sarcasm:
i suggest you all myob until there is a real reason to call AC

I don't think ALL people who keep their pets outside don't care about them. I said if there is a house and the dog doesn't use it then maybe they shouldn't keep it outside. Meaning, find an alternative bc obviously the dog isn't happy outside and doesn't like the shelter. Also, why should neighbors deal with barking dogs????

As far as the cats I've dealt with this since we bought our house and I am sick of going outside everyday and cleaning up messes. I have an indoor cat that I take care of and I shouldn't have to clean up after the neighbors cats. The cats are missing chunks of hair, I can hear them fighting, and the one hisses at my daughter. When it's around she won't go outside. I know the shelter isn't much better but why don't you come get these damn cats and take care of them your self since you're so righteous? I do mind my business and rarely even speak to my neighbors bc they're trashy ways piss me off and I don't want to offend them. So I MMOB and am miserable as a result. It's my fault though for not staking out the street 24/7 to begin with. I swear the previous owners had the neighbors keep their animals inside and quiet during the selling process bc I was looking for this crap when house hunting....Ugh!
 

thatguy

New Member
I don't think ALL people who keep their pets outside don't care about them. I said if there is a house and the dog doesn't use it then maybe they shouldn't keep it outside. Meaning, find an alternative bc obviously the dog isn't happy outside and doesn't like the shelter. Also, why should neighbors deal with barking dogs????

As far as the cats I've dealt with this since we bought our house and I am sick of going outside everyday and cleaning up messes. I have an indoor cat that I take care of and I shouldn't have to clean up after the neighbors cats. The cats are missing chunks of hair, I can hear them fighting, and the one hisses at my daughter. When it's around she won't go outside. I know the shelter isn't much better but why don't you come get these damn cats and take care of them your self since you're so righteous? I do mind my business and rarely even speak to my neighbors bc they're trashy ways piss me off and I don't want to offend them. So I MMOB and am miserable as a result. It's my fault though for not staking out the street 24/7 to begin with. I swear the previous owners had the neighbors keep their animals inside and quiet during the selling process bc I was looking for this crap when house hunting....Ugh!

i dont have a problem with your neighbors cats.....

as for other peoples animals and minding our own biz, all i have to say is if you think it is bad enough that the animal should be put down, then call animal control, because if they take them, that is what is going to happen most of the time. I wouldn't kill a dog that barks or has the misfortune to be kept outside by its owners, or a cat that is given free range. If thats what you think is necessary, call animal control, they have the needle ready
 
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