Here, cop haters, have some red meat

Will99

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Let me stop you right there.....

The woman is with a guy who beats her ass, in front of her child no less, and she is in the process of attacking him with a knife, also in front of her child.

We're not talking about rational people here.

In fact, cops rarely deal with rational people.

Now the question is, should cops be able to just shoot irrational dipshits who not only screw up their lives but drag their kids into it? When I'm Imperial Queen of the Universe, the answer will be a resounding yes. But until then the answer is no. Cops are trained to deal with irrational people and volatile situations. It's their job.

So while many if not most cops shootings are justified, this one probably isn't.
I’ll go back to what I said earlier. She was within inches of a person she was angry with with a large knife. I agree most cop shootings are justified and I’d say this one probably is. Are you watching the same video as me? Do you see the woman within an inch of the guy she’s mad at grabbing his arm with one hand with the knife in the other? What happens if she kills the guy? Who is wrong then?
 
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TPD

the poor dad
I’m not sure I understand what you’re saying. Are you saying her race had something to do with this?
I’m saying that blacks in general know the relationship between them and the cops - it is almost bred in them to be on the defensive with cops. Cops are not their friends.
 

vraiblonde

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I’ll go back to what I said earlier. She was within inches of a person she was angry with with a large knife. I agree most cop shootings are justified and I’d say this one probably is. Are you watching the same video as me? Do you see the woman within an inch of the guy she’s mad at grabbing his arm with one hand with the knife in the other? What happens if she kills the guy? Who is wrong then?

Honestly, if she'd killed the guy who was beating her and threatening her child.....yeah, not gonna weep over that. In fact is she wants to make a career of it, I can hook her up with a list of clients.

Now what's possible is that she was the aggressor and he is just a dumb guy on the receiving end. Where that falls apart is that apparently this isn't their first rodeo - cops had been called for domestics with this loving couple before. When I'm IQU, households will get one domestic call. If she takes him back after that, it's her problem to deal with.

You're not going to convince me that the cop wasn't in the wrong and being excessive. If more information comes out, that might change my mind. But as of this writing it's not looking good for him.
 

vraiblonde

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I’m saying that blacks in general know the relationship between them and the cops - it is almost bred in them to be on the defensive with cops. Cops are not their friends.

Right, and why is that? They don't call black people #1s for nothing. Which is a shame because I don't believe that black people are inherently more violent or criminally minded, and I have a whole diatribe about how Democrats have destroyed black people as a race and black people are their own worst enemies. I started to say "urban blacks are their own worst enemies" but some black guy with a great job and nice family who votes Democrat - that's what he's voting for: horrible Democrat policies that destroy black people.

I have more rant but I'll spare you... :lol:

Anyway, I'm thinking that the cops showed up in the heat of the moment and the woman answered the door while in a highly agitated state. This situation should be nothing new to a freaking LA cop, yet the guy started blasting within seconds.
 

Will99

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Honestly, if she'd killed the guy who was beating her and threatening her child.....yeah, not gonna weep over that. In fact is she wants to make a career of it, I can hook her up with a list of clients.

Now what's possible is that she was the aggressor and he is just a dumb guy on the receiving end. Where that falls apart is that apparently this isn't their first rodeo - cops had been called for domestics with this loving couple before. When I'm IQU, households will get one domestic call. If she takes him back after that, it's her problem to deal with.

You're not going to convince me that the cop wasn't in the wrong and being excessive. If more information comes out, that might change my mind. But as of this writing it's not looking good for him.
And you aren’t going to convince me that a police officer who shoots a person with a large knife who is within inches of a person she is angry with is wrong. Policing is not a pretty event sometimes. I‘m on the side of the cop unless it’s clear they are wrong. In this, I see the police officer saving the life of a person which is what most people expect them to do.

It kills me that people often forgive the bad actions of a person and blame a cop for what that person did wrong in order to get themselves killed or injured.
 

TPD

the poor dad
It kills me that people often forgive the bad actions of a person and blame a cop for what that person did wrong in order to get themselves killed or injured.
You know it wouldn't be like that if the cops didn't investigate themselves when something goes wrong and inevitably find that they are innocent in almost every situation. And we would also give you more credibility if there weren't so many videos out there of you all violating our rights and lying to us. Body cameras are the best invention for cops since since the siren. Now if we could just get our sheriff here in SMC to be more transparent and open up the police radio waves to the citizens...what have you got to hide?
 

vraiblonde

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It kills me that people often forgive the bad actions of a person and blame a cop for what that person did wrong in order to get themselves killed or injured.

Not me, honey. Ask anyone on here, if I can take the cop's side I will. I *want* to take the cop's side. But when they show up to a domestic and start blasting within seconds - killing the victim no less - it's tough to do.

If it were up to me cops wouldn't even respond to domestic disputes a second time. If she didn't learn the first time, she's not going to.
 

vraiblonde

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You know it wouldn't be like that if the cops didn't investigate themselves when something goes wrong and inevitably find that they are innocent in almost every situation.

:thewave:

Police your own, as they say. Get rid of dirty cops and stop protecting them. We want to back the blue, but cops have to help us out here.
 
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GURPS

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start blasting within seconds - killing the victim no less - it's tough to do.


Not just domestics ....

A couple of yrs back a teen is walking somewhere with an Air-soft Rifle next to a busy road with lots of traffic noise, a cop spots the teen, stops his car pulls his gun and starts shouting at the teen from behind him,, barking orders ... the teen who cannot hear clearly because of the traffic noise, turns to see what the racket behind him is all about

Bang
Bang
Bang

the cop guns down the teen, because after all the cop just wants to go home at the end of his shift

Time to Kill ... 9 SECONDS from the time the cop saw the teen to thew time the teen was on the ground dead or dying

9 SECONDS

This happened in California


I will concede 2 points

1. The Teen should NOT be WALKING to a friends house in this day an age with an AK-47 Air-Soft Rifle
Urban Environments this is asking for trouble from either trigger happy cops or a gang banger thinking you have real weapon
2. If he is going to walk, get scabbard or other carry bag

Teens do stupid things, the adults - in this case a cop - should be de-esclating a situation, this was totally on the cop he went from zero to one thousand in a couple of seconds
 

GURPS

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We want to back the blue, but cops have to help us out here.


Demilitarize
Stop Covering for Trash
Stop Robbing Citizens with Forfeiture Laws
Stop Shooting Citizens at the drop of a hat, just because you ' felt ' threatened and want to go home at the end of your shift
Git rid of the us vs them mentality - me cop you obey
Git Rid of the Cowboy mentality - I'm gonna bust a cap in a Mother f'er ass for looking sideways at me
 
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vraiblonde

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See, I don't expect cops to be perfect. They see a young guy walking down the street with an A-47 who doesn't respond to shouted commands, what are they supposed to do?

That's a real question - what should the cop have done instead? Be specific. "Not that" isn't an answer.

All you armchair quarterbacks, I'd love to see you be an urban cop. You'd be dead by the end of your first shift.

As far as not covering for their rogue/corrupt/criminal co-workers, I agree completely. THAT is something that needs to be addressed. But you can't say "all cops suck" any more than you can say all CPAs suck, or all construction workers suck, or all DoD contractors suck just because one or two make a mistake or are aholes.

I personally loathe doctors and frequently blanket condemn them, but that's just popping off because the doctor who did my health screening last month was terrific. Doctors make mistakes all the time. ALL THE TIME. But you don't see me digging around for malpractice incidents so I can go, "See??? ALL doctors suck!!!" And the media doesn't do it, either, although I will bet you money doctors kill more people than cops in any given year.

The media *wants* you to hate cops. That's why they go apeshit over every police brutality incident, and also make a bunch of them up. Notice they don't do that with any other profession, and yet you fall for it. Every. Single. Time.
 

stgislander

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Not just domestics ....

A couple of yrs back a teen is walking somewhere with an Air-soft Rifle next to a busy road with lots of traffic noise, a cop spots the teen, stops his car pulls his gun and starts shouting at the teen from behind him,, barking orders ... the teen who cannot hear clearly because of the traffic noise, turns to see what the racket behind him is all about

Bang
Bang
Bang

the cop guns down the teen, because after all the cop just wants to go home at the end of his shift

Time to Kill ... 9 SECONDS from the time the cop saw the teen to thew time the teen was on the ground dead or dying

9 SECONDS

This happened in California


I will concede 2 points

1. The Teen should NOT be WALKING to a friends house in this day an age with an AK-47 Air-Soft Rifle
Urban Environments this is asking for trouble from either trigger happy cops or a gang banger thinking you have real weapon
2. If he is going to walk, get scabbard or other carry bag

Teens do stupid things, the adults - in this case a cop - should be de-esclating a situation, this was totally on the cop he went from zero to one thousand in a couple of seconds
I remember that incident. (I thought it was Cincinnati, but am likely wrong.) I thought that incident would have made a better rallying point than many of the others BLM cited.
 
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