Herman Cain dead of COVID

Crabcatcher79

Well-Known Member
Show the proof, because I call your BS...

Among 139 clients exposed to two symptomatic hair stylists with confirmed COVID-19 while both the stylists and the clients wore face masks, no symptomatic secondary cases were reported; among 67 clients tested for SARS-CoV-2, all test results were negative. Adherence to the community’s and company’s face-covering policy likely mitigated spread of SARS-CoV-2.

 

itsbob

I bowl overhand
Among 139 clients exposed to two symptomatic hair stylists with confirmed COVID-19 while both the stylists and the clients wore face masks, no symptomatic secondary cases were reported; among 67 clients tested for SARS-CoV-2, all test results were negative. Adherence to the community’s and company’s face-covering policy likely mitigated spread of SARS-CoV-2.

ummm, I think that's what's called ANECDOTAL!! Not even close to being proof.

Were there any positives?? Were there any cases where neither wore masks and they were the only positive.. any case where only one was wearing a mask and they tested positive??

Because I can tell you personally that I had close contact with a Positive COVID over a good length of time (measured in hours).. NOBODY wore masks, and not one of us has had symptoms or tested positive.. so using your argument, 100% of people not wearing masks is 100% safe.
 

Bann

Doris Day meets Lady Gaga
PREMO Member
ummm, I think that's what's called ANECDOTAL!! Not even close to being proof.

Were there any positives?? Were there any cases where neither wore masks and they were the only positive.. any case where only one was wearing a mask and they tested positive??

Because I can tell you personally that I had close contact with a Positive COVID over a good length of time (measured in hours).. NOBODY wore masks, and not one of us has had symptoms or tested positive.. so using your argument, 100% of people not wearing masks is 100% safe.
Same with my son, the Firefighter/EMS. One of the bunkmates had it, the rest of them texted negative. AND continue to test negative. :yay:
 

Crabcatcher79

Well-Known Member
ummm, I think that's what's called ANECDOTAL!! Not even close to being proof.

Were there any positives?? Were there any cases where neither wore masks and they were the only positive.. any case where only one was wearing a mask and they tested positive??

Because I can tell you personally that I had close contact with a Positive COVID over a good length of time (measured in hours).. NOBODY wore masks, and not one of us has had symptoms or tested positive.. so using your argument, 100% of people not wearing masks is 100% safe.


First of all that wasn't my argument dummy.

I said there are no cases of transmission when both people wear a mask. Are you too dumb to follow your own conversation for more then 15 minutes?
 

GURPS

INGSOC
PREMO Member
Where the surge in Tulsa was directly linked to the rally.

Fantasy, Supposition, Innuendo and OPINION

Tulsa health official says Trump rally "likely contributed" to spike in coronavirus cases

' likely contributed ' ... NOT exactly Firm Attribution as to cause and affect ..... where is the contact tracing where are the reports WE Know X Number of people infected were at the Trump Rally

Anything Else is FANTASY Conjecture on YOUR Part.

8 people in Trumps entourage not 8 people total liar


NO Lies ...... Did you MISS the Question Mark
 

Toxick

Splat
Not really. He had advanced cancer, but since he also tested positive for the virus they say he died of COVID.


150014
 

Crabcatcher79

Well-Known Member
Fantasy, Supposition, Innuendo and OPINION

Tulsa health official says Trump rally "likely contributed" to spike in coronavirus cases

' likely contributed ' ... NOT exactly Firm Attribution as to cause and affect ..... where is the contact tracing where are the reports WE Know X Number of people infected were at the Trump Rally

Anything Else is FANTASY Conjecture on YOUR Part.




NO Lies ...... Did you MISS the Question Mark


Why do you keep denying what is obvious? Do you like to see Americans killed? Why is "likely contributed" enough for you to continue to deny science and common sense?

To what end?

If i told you 4 years ago you would be denying a pandemic and defending a doctor who thinks spirits and magic cause illness and gynecological problems you would have said "thats silly" No Way".


Look what Trump has done to you and how far you have to sink to defend the indefensible.
 

GURPS

INGSOC
PREMO Member
So it’s a coincidence he was diagnosed 12 days after the rally?

Can YOU Prove Cain was Exposed to The Chinese Bat Soup Flu @ Tulsa

even so. We know he was in a high risk group.

Yes He was.

We know how to prevent it.

No, No You don't ..... it is conjecture and OPINION .. it has been widely reported MOST of the infections came from people living in the same household


Only Trumps misinformation and Cains Hubris is to blame.

Just because YOU Believe it, and Say Something, That Does NOT Make It True or Everyone Will Have The SAME Opinion


how many anti mask idiots have to die before you guys realize a piece of cloth is not oppression. It’s protection.


DIY FACE MASKS ARE BASICALLY USELESS AGAINST THE CORONAVIRUS

Studies have confirmed the fact that homemade cloth masks are pretty terrible at catching viruses. A 2013 Cambridge University study found that tea towels and vacuum cleaner bags were far closer to the effectiveness of actual surgical masks in blocking a certain type of virus.

And then there’s the fact that people might think their cloth face masks can do more than they actually can — in fact, a false sense of security could actually do more harm than good. By touching a contaminated surface and then the mask could actually end up with you getting infected yourself. Besides, homemade masks aren’t properly sterilized.



Surgical and Cloth Masks are Useless Against COVID-19, Says New Study

Both the cotton and surgical masks are ineffective for filtering the SAD-CoV-2 and don’t prevent the dissemination of virus from the sneeze or cough of patients suffering from COVID-19. The study was conducted at two hospitals in South Korea and Seoul, which demonstrated that face masks are ineffective as virus droplets release to the external mask surface and the environment when patients coughed into either type of face mask.

The findings of the research report are published in the Annals of Internal Medicine.

Face masks are thought to prevent virus transmission during respiratory viral infections, leading healthcare professionals to recommend the use of masks during coronavirus pandemic. With the shortage of N95 and surgical face masks, which thought to prevent the virus spread, cotton masks are now used as a substitute. But it is not confirmed if these masks are worn by COVID-19 patients actually prevent the transmission of the virus to the environment.

COVID-19 – Your Mask Is Useless, and You’re Using it Wrong

Disclaimer: the information contained within this article was gathered from the following sources:

Now, if you paid attention to the words I used so far, you’ll have noticed that I’m only mentioning surgical masks. You know, those cheap masks, usually blue or green, that you see everywhere in Hong Kong. Well, those masks are useless against 2019-nCoV. And for three reasons.

First off, surgical masks are loose-fitting. Try as you might, you will never obtain a perfect seal around your mouth and nose with a surgical mask. This allows smaller airborne droplets, which may -or may not- carry viruses, to find their way through gaps between the mask and you skin, and into your respiratory system, hence infecting you even though you are wearing a surgical mask.

As a matter of fact, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) indicates that the surgical mask “(d)oes NOT provide the wearer with a reliable level of protection from inhaling smaller airborne particles and is not considered respiratory protection”[1].

One could argue, though, that surgical masks may be useful in case an infected person coughs directly in your face. Although incredibly rude, it happens (this is Hong Kong, after all). And in such case, a surgical mask may offer some protection against splashes of fluids and larger droplets.

However, one must bear in mind the mode of transmission of coronaviruses. And 2019-nCoV, as most human coronaviruses, spreads from an infected person to another through the air (coughing or sneezing), through fecal contamination (albeit rarely), or through contact (direct or indirect) between a contaminated surface and your mouth, nose, or eyes. Yes, you could also get infected with 2019-nCoV through the eyes.

Now, let’s bring back that infected person coughing directly in your face. In such a scenario, wearing a surgical mask would help prevent contamination directly through the respiratory system. It wouldn’t protect you from a contamination through the eyes, though.




The Science Turns Against America’s Mask Fascists


No less than the New England Journal of Medicine has dealt a body blow to America’s growing army of mask fascists with the news that “wearing a mask outside health care facilities offers little, if any, protection from infection.”

The reasons for this are both simple and logical:

We know that wearing a mask outside health care facilities offers little, if any, protection from infection. Public health authorities define a significant exposure to Covid-19 as face-to-face contact within 6 feet with a patient with symptomatic Covid-19 that is sustained for at least a few minutes (and some say more than 10 minutes or even 30 minutes). The chance of catching Covid-19 from a passing interaction in a public space is therefore minimal. In many cases, the desire for widespread masking is a reflexive reaction to anxiety over the pandemic.

Cloth Masks Are Useless Against COVID-19

The idea that cloth masks will protect anybody from contracting COVID-19 is magical thinking, Lisa Brousseau, ScD, expert on infectious diseases, Professor (retired), University of Illinois at Chicago, tells Infection Control Today.

 

GURPS

INGSOC
PREMO Member
Wrong. It has been shown that reaching herd immunity will certainly kill many times more people and no one is suggesting that.
They tried it in Britain and Sweden and are paying for it now


Liar ..... Sweden's infection rate is BELOW The US



The WHO on Thursday said several countries and territories were seeing a rise in infections. Eleven were in the UN agency's Europe region.

Dr Tegnell told Swedish TV it was a "total misinterpretation of the data".

Sweden had seen a rise in cases, he argued, because it was testing more.

But the WHO said the proportion of those testing positive for coronavirus remained "at about 12-13%" despite increased testing.

This and other data indicates "that Sweden is still faced with community transmission", a spokesperson told the BBC.



Coronavirus: Qatar, Bahrain have highest global COVID-19 infection rate per capita
 

Crabcatcher79

Well-Known Member
Can YOU Prove Cain was Exposed to The Chinese Bat Soup Flu @ Tulsa



Yes He was.



No, No You don't ..... it is conjecture and OPINION .. it has been widely reported MOST of the infections came from people living in the same household




Just because YOU Believe it, and Say Something, That Does NOT Make It True or Everyone Will Have The SAME Opinion





DIY FACE MASKS ARE BASICALLY USELESS AGAINST THE CORONAVIRUS

Studies have confirmed the fact that homemade cloth masks are pretty terrible at catching viruses. A 2013 Cambridge University study found that tea towels and vacuum cleaner bags were far closer to the effectiveness of actual surgical masks in blocking a certain type of virus.

And then there’s the fact that people might think their cloth face masks can do more than they actually can — in fact, a false sense of security could actually do more harm than good. By touching a contaminated surface and then the mask could actually end up with you getting infected yourself. Besides, homemade masks aren’t properly sterilized.



Surgical and Cloth Masks are Useless Against COVID-19, Says New Study

Both the cotton and surgical masks are ineffective for filtering the SAD-CoV-2 and don’t prevent the dissemination of virus from the sneeze or cough of patients suffering from COVID-19. The study was conducted at two hospitals in South Korea and Seoul, which demonstrated that face masks are ineffective as virus droplets release to the external mask surface and the environment when patients coughed into either type of face mask.

The findings of the research report are published in the Annals of Internal Medicine.

Face masks are thought to prevent virus transmission during respiratory viral infections, leading healthcare professionals to recommend the use of masks during coronavirus pandemic. With the shortage of N95 and surgical face masks, which thought to prevent the virus spread, cotton masks are now used as a substitute. But it is not confirmed if these masks are worn by COVID-19 patients actually prevent the transmission of the virus to the environment.

COVID-19 – Your Mask Is Useless, and You’re Using it Wrong

Disclaimer: the information contained within this article was gathered from the following sources:

Now, if you paid attention to the words I used so far, you’ll have noticed that I’m only mentioning surgical masks. You know, those cheap masks, usually blue or green, that you see everywhere in Hong Kong. Well, those masks are useless against 2019-nCoV. And for three reasons.

First off, surgical masks are loose-fitting. Try as you might, you will never obtain a perfect seal around your mouth and nose with a surgical mask. This allows smaller airborne droplets, which may -or may not- carry viruses, to find their way through gaps between the mask and you skin, and into your respiratory system, hence infecting you even though you are wearing a surgical mask.

As a matter of fact, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) indicates that the surgical mask “(d)oes NOT provide the wearer with a reliable level of protection from inhaling smaller airborne particles and is not considered respiratory protection”[1].

One could argue, though, that surgical masks may be useful in case an infected person coughs directly in your face. Although incredibly rude, it happens (this is Hong Kong, after all). And in such case, a surgical mask may offer some protection against splashes of fluids and larger droplets.

However, one must bear in mind the mode of transmission of coronaviruses. And 2019-nCoV, as most human coronaviruses, spreads from an infected person to another through the air (coughing or sneezing), through fecal contamination (albeit rarely), or through contact (direct or indirect) between a contaminated surface and your mouth, nose, or eyes. Yes, you could also get infected with 2019-nCoV through the eyes.

Now, let’s bring back that infected person coughing directly in your face. In such a scenario, wearing a surgical mask would help prevent contamination directly through the respiratory system. It wouldn’t protect you from a contamination through the eyes, though.




The Science Turns Against America’s Mask Fascists


No less than the New England Journal of Medicine has dealt a body blow to America’s growing army of mask fascists with the news that “wearing a mask outside health care facilities offers little, if any, protection from infection.”

The reasons for this are both simple and logical:



Cloth Masks Are Useless Against COVID-19

The idea that cloth masks will protect anybody from contracting COVID-19 is magical thinking, Lisa Brousseau, ScD, expert on infectious diseases, Professor (retired), University of Illinois at Chicago, tells Infection Control Today.





You are stunningly stupid.

Are cloth masks the only ones available and being used? My cloth mask has a vent to add a coffee filter or tea bag just like your study confirms provides more than adequate protection.

Why are you cherry picking disinformation?

Even if a cloth mask offered 10% protection when properly used is that not better than 0?
 

GURPS

INGSOC
PREMO Member
Adherence to the community’s and company’s face-covering policy likely mitigated spread of SARS-CoV-2.


likely

like·ly | \ ˈlī-klē \
likelier; likeliest
Definition of likely 1: having a high probability of occurring or being true : very probable


affirmative
adjective


af·fir·ma·tive | \ ə-ˈfər-mə-tiv \

Definition of affirmative 1: asserting that the fact is so
 

GURPS

INGSOC
PREMO Member
Why do you keep denying what is obvious?

Opinion, Conjecture, Fantasy and Supposition ....

Do you like to see Americans killed?

Ad Hominem: When People Use Personal Attacks in Arguments


Why is "likely contributed" enough for you to continue to deny science and common sense?

YOU offer NO Proof, NO Facts ....... and make personal attacks when challenged ....
There is NO PROVEN Science on MASKS .... Hypothesis and Conjecture

Look what Trump has done to you and how far you have to sink to defend the indefensible.

YOU have NOTHING so you make personal attacks and play pedantic passive aggressive word games


If i told you 4 years ago you would be denying a pandemic

Liar ..... no one is Denying the Chinese Bat Soup Flu is going around

and defending a doctor who thinks spirits and magic cause illness and gynecological problems you would have said "that's silly" No Way".

What does ANY of that have to do with her analysis on Covid-19 and masks

Her OPINION of Covid does NOT fit YOUR world view so you engage in personal attacks ......
 
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