High Fructose Corn Syrup

[Nickel]

The consumer drives everything. If we all stop eating corn products and byproducts, they will stop being subsidized. Actually, that's not true because of the foreign market. But regardless, those who are arguing against corn and corn subsidies, put your money where your mouth is. Stop eating anything that was made with subsidizes corn. Boycott, if you will.

They already do. There's a large movement (a Food Revolution, if you will ) to get back to simpler eating and local food production. Where it will lead is anybody's guess.

 

[vraiblonde]

I always like the commercials for California cows (though they aren't selling beef) I think it's true - a happy cow is a yummy cow. Holds true for just about anything I guess.

If cows are smart enough to be happy, they're smart enough to notice their pen-mates are disappearing regularly. This should make them very very unhappy.

 

[Nickel]

I bet if you tried some of the cow I buy from a local farmer, that's fed mostly grass, you'd think you'd died and gone to heaven. Not to mention it's more cost effective. There is a huge quality difference.

So comparing the two...steak that's been fed corn, crowded into pens, slaughtered, washed with ammonia, processed some more, sometimes even chemically dyed, shipped, and then on your plate versus a cow that was raised locally on a farm feed grass and hay, slaughtered, and handed over for me to cook, I'll take my steak over yours. :shrug:

I always like the commercials for California cows (though they aren't selling beef) I think it's true - a happy cow is a yummy cow. Holds true for just about anything I guess.

At the risk of sounding crazy, the part of Food Inc that resonated with me the most was the treatment of animals. We can decide what to eat, but those poor cows live terrible lives and are fed food they can't process and end up getting sick and abused. And the poor pigs and chickens...very sad.

 

[Nickel]

If cows are smart enough to be happy, they're smart enough to notice their pen-mates are disappearing regularly. This should make them very very unhappy.

A factory farm stampede. Wouldn't that be something?

 

[Cowgirl]

A factory farm stampede. Wouldn't that be something?

I caught a few minutes of Fast Food Nation on tv the other day, and it showed Avril Lavigne (and a group of other college kids) cutting holes in the fence to try to let the cows out of the feed lot. The cows didn't go anywhere and the kids were really upset. I didn't watch the whole movie though.

 

[vraiblonde]

I caught a few minutes of Fast Food Nation on tv the other day, and it showed Avril Lavigne (and a group of other college kids) cutting wholes in the fence to try to let the cows out of the feed lot. The cows didn't go anywhere and the kids were really upset. I didn't watch the whole movie though.

Was she arrested? I mean, if they have it on tape and everything...destruction of property, trespassing, attempted theft...

 

[lnmarsh]

Was she arrested? I mean, if they have it on tape and everything...destruction of property, trespassing, attempted theft...

Yea good point

 

[PrepH4U]

I bet if you tried some of the cow I buy from a local farmer, that's fed mostly grass, you'd think you'd died and gone to heaven. Not to mention it's more cost effective. There is a huge quality difference.

So comparing the two...steak that's been fed corn, crowded into pens, slaughtered, washed with ammonia, processed some more, sometimes even chemically dyed, shipped, and then on your plate versus a cow that was raised locally on a farm feed grass and hay, slaughtered, and handed over for me to cook, I'll take my steak over yours. :shrug:

I always like the commercials for California cows (though they aren't selling beef) I think it's true - a happy cow is a yummy cow. Holds true for just about anything I guess.

I am really enjoying this thread, next you guys ought to discuss all the growth hormones & antibiotics that are passed through the cows milk.

 

[Larry Gude]

I caught a few minutes of Fast Food Nation on tv the other day, and it showed Avril Lavigne (and a group of other college kids) cutting holes in the fence to try to let the cows out of the feed lot. The cows didn't go anywhere and the kids were really upset. I didn't watch the whole movie though.

Priceless.

 

[Merlin99]

This really is simple:

You all who are anti-corn...don't eat it. Don't eat anything sweetened with corn syrup, don't eat anything with corn filler or binder, don't eat anything processed with corn.

It can be done. But it will mean giving up most packaged foods, that you can easily make from scratch at home anyway so that shouldn't be a deal breaker.

But it really is annoying when someone gets a bugaboo about a specific food product, then tries to make it everyone else's problem. No different than the salt Nazis in NYC, or the fat Nazis in our government.

I gave up almost all of it after I diabetes. Also I do a lot of canning every year, but that's just because I like to do it, not for any health reasons.

 

[Nickel]

I caught a few minutes of Fast Food Nation on tv the other day, and it showed Avril Lavigne (and a group of other college kids) cutting holes in the fence to try to let the cows out of the feed lot. The cows didn't go anywhere and the kids were really upset. I didn't watch the whole movie though.

I wonder if it ever occurred to her that if a large group of massive cows wanted to go somewhere, they probably wouldn't need her there to arrange it.

 

[migtig]

I am really enjoying this thread, next you guys ought to discuss all the growth hormones & antibiotics that are passed through the cows milk.

That one really bothers me. I don't have children, but I think it should bother every parent out there the most. Of course our milk is illegal and banned in every other country out there.

However if this milk was banned here in the US, the corporation Monsato would lose money. Can't have that, because then their campaign contributions wouldn't be as large. :eyeroll:

If anyone is concerned they should spend the extra dollars on milk and cheese products that are marked "NO rBGH".

I wish I could buy unpasturized milk locally, but I can't for there is some law that's out there to keep me "healthy". I do spend more and buy whole organic milk at the stores instead. I choose to drink almond milk and use the other to cook with.

 

[Nickel]

I wish I could buy unpasturized milk locally, but I can't for there is some law that's out there to keep me "healthy". I do spend more and buy whole organic milk at the stores instead. I choose to drink almond milk and use the other to cook with.

I really like skim milk. Not because it's fat free - I just prefer the consistency. The thought of full fat milk (or even 2%) is gross to me. Too thick. I really like the taste of almond milk (particularly the vanilla), but it has that thick milky consistency that I don't like.

 

[Cowgirl]

Was she arrested? I mean, if they have it on tape and everything...destruction of property, trespassing, attempted theft...

It was a movie.

I am really enjoying this thread, next you guys ought to discuss all the growth hormones & antibiotics that are passed through the cows milk.

All milk has hormones in it. And I feel pretty safe that our milk is antibiotic residue free. When the milk truck collects at each farm, the driver takes a sample of milk from the bulk tank. They get back to the plant and test the milk that was collected at the farm. If a farmer's milk comes back with any traces of antibiotic, the farmer has to buy the WHOLE tanker truck of milk because it isn't useable. Dairy farmers are pretty careful about antibiotics.

Some farms are using rBST to increase milk production, but many consumers don't like that. Many companies advertise that their milk is rBST free. Just check on the cartons of milk you buy to see if they're rBST free or not. I'm against rBST, but mainly because of the stress it causes to the cows. Dairy cows have a very hard life.