History Channel

[Penn]

Penn, a child can see this. This is what happens when people listen to other influences such as the TV. Jesus saw His mother(only one Mary was His mother) and John always referred to himself in the third person as the disciple whom Jesus loved. Put these together and it's very simple. Jesus told John to take care of his grieving/ailing mother.

Yes, I see what you're saying, and it does make sense.

Remember though, there are these "scientific" theologians out there, who are trying to convince the masses that Jesus and Mary Magdelene had a much deeper relationship than what the Holy Bible tells us. Some are suggesting they entered into marriage, and may have even had children.

I don't buy that, even in the face of the arguement that as a Jew of adult age, it would have been the custom for a man like Jesus to have taken a wife, etc.

Jesus was not just an everyday Jewish male. He was the Son of God, and as such, He came to this world for other purposes; to save us from our sins and show us the way to salvation, to name a few.

But, after reading that passage again, I can see where somebody who's looking for an alternative explanation, might read into John 19:27 - "Then he said to the disciple, "Behold, your mother!" And from that hour the disciple took her to his own home." - a different interpretation.

These kinds of deep thinkers, will argue to no end that He could have been referring Mary Magdelene to the disciple John, and thus informing him of this woman's maternal relationship to him.

Farfetched as it sounds, they consider that as a key phrase - another piece of the puzzle that Jesus and Mary were much closer than we're led to believe.

 

[ItalianScallion]

Thank you Penn, I feel much better but it sounded as if you believed their statements, so I'm glad you don't.

 

[2ndAmendment]

Yes, I see what you're saying, and it does make sense.

Remember though, there are these "scientific" theologians out there, who are trying to convince the masses that Jesus and Mary Magdelene had a much deeper relationship than what the Holy Bible tells us. Some are suggesting they entered into marriage, and may have even had children.

I don't buy that, even in the face of the arguement that as a Jew of adult age, it would have been the custom for a man like Jesus to have taken a wife, etc.

Jesus was not just an everyday Jewish male. He was the Son of God, and as such, He came to this world for other purposes; to save us from our sins and show us the way to salvation, to name a few.

But, after reading that passage again, I can see where somebody who's looking for an alternative explanation, might read into John 19:27 - "Then he said to the disciple, "Behold, your mother!" And from that hour the disciple took her to his own home." - a different interpretation.

These kinds of deep thinkers, will argue to no end that He could have been referring Mary Magdelene to the disciple John, and thus informing him of this woman's maternal relationship to him.

Farfetched as it sounds, they consider that as a key phrase - another piece of the puzzle that Jesus and Mary were much closer than we're led to believe.

Key word there is "mother." He was referring to His mother, otherwise He would have said, "Take care of my wife and family." He didn't!

 

[itsbob]

Bob, I have done more and better research than most have about God and that's why I believe. Call Him a "fictional being" if you want but you'll have eternity to wish you hadn't. I challenge you to prove that He doesn't exist, my friend, and let me know what you came up with. I can clearly see that you haven't done any research, never read the entire Bible and you've believed what someone else told you. You have NO basis for truth in what you say. Be careful, your words will condemn you.

Your research was flawed.

No, prove that he does exist would be my challenge.. and what makes your God more real or " a being" than everyone else's God's??

Jesus was a person, he was not the "Son of God" but a good person, with human values. Fiction writers have made him larger than life. It's the biggest hoax of mankind that's been going on for almost 2000 yers. Take the hook, write your check, buy your salvation.

 

[ItalianScallion]

Your research was flawed.

No, prove that he does exist would be my challenge.. and what makes your God more real or " a being" than everyone else's God's??

Jesus was a person, he was not the "Son of God" but a good person, with human values. Fiction writers have made him larger than life. It's the biggest hoax of mankind that's been going on for almost 2000 yers. Take the hook, write your check, buy your salvation.

Ouch! It sounds like you've had some BAD experiences with churches in your time.
It also sounds like you'll have no faith unless you see it in front of you. I'd say try to disprove that the Bible is true but I guess you'd say the same about it.
Jesus was SEEN living, then dead, then alive again by eyewitnesses. No other man has done this in his own power. The entire OLD testament has prophesies about the Messiah and Jesus fullfilled them all. While I can't "show you" Jesus in person, I know that everyone who truthfully tries to disprove His claims, ends up believing in Him. Just by the creation alone no rational person can rightly deny God's existence. All I'm saying is try to but, your mind is made up it seems. So, if I may ask one question of you? What will you do when you do meet Jesus one day and find out that what He said is true?

 

[itsbob]

Ouch! It sounds like you've had some BAD experiences with churches in your time.
It also sounds like you'll have no faith unless you see it in front of you. I'd say try to disprove that the Bible is true but I guess you'd say the same about it.
Jesus was SEEN living, then dead, then alive again by eyewitnesses. No other man has done this in his own power. The entire OLD testament has prophesies about the Messiah and Jesus fullfilled them all. While I can't "show you" Jesus in person, I know that everyone who truthfully tries to disprove His claims, ends up believing in Him. Just by the creation alone no rational person can rightly deny God's existence. All I'm saying is try to but, your mind is made up it seems. So, if I may ask one question of you? What will you do when you do meet Jesus one day and find out that what He said is true?

Prove the Harry Potter books aren't true, without using ANY evidence other then the books themselves..

I've tried, and I've found the truth.. There are many religions and GOds on this planet, some even pre-date Christianity by thousands of years.. All becasue Man is uncomfortable with his own mortatlity and feels the need for someone, something to tell them how to live a good life, to be a good person. I konw when this life is over there is nothing, but I also know that without a book, without someone calling me a sinner on a weekly basis, I can still be, basically, a good person.

Man is uncomfortable with the fact that this is it, there is no afterlife, this is the one shot you get, make the best of it. BUT some people need this to keep them on the good and narrow path. WIthout it they would do things that would make them happy, and live their own lives to the fullest, knowing there are no "do-overs".

If all the money given to organized religion was given to an organization that could make a difference, there would be not poverty in this country, no starving kids.. nothing to be used by religion factions for their unending fundraising.

 

[Agee]

Every year at this time, Passover/Resurrection week, (easter), the nutcases come out from the pits. Last year it was the Davinci code, this year it was the bones of Jesus, the gospel of Judas and the mary magdalene thing! My advice to you each is to NEVER believe anything about religion that the Bible speaks against. If, what they say on the history channel agrees with what the Bbile says about Mary Mag, then believe it. Our days are coming to a close soon and the devil will work overtime to deceive as many as possible. Don't be one of them. Turn off the tube and open the Book.

Thank-You, although mine was mearly an observation on how Hollywood, specifically, the History channel (gasp) too gets caught-up in the game...

 

[2ndAmendment]

itsbob would be right if Jesus was just a man. Was He? No. He is God come as man. Why do I believe that? Lets take a look at the account of the trial, crucifixion, resurrection of Jesus through the lives of the disciples and the Jews of the day.

• When Jesus was arrested, the disciples scattered. They were terribly afraid of receiving the same fate as Jesus. Peter denied Jesus three times when confronted.
• Jesus was tried and crucified very publicly.
• He was put in a tomb hewed out of stone with an entrance that had a large stone in front of it.
• The Romans sealed the tomb.
• Guards were posted because the Jews were afraid someone would steal the body because of the claim of the resurrection.
• The guards stayed in place from the evening of the first day to the morning of the third day without incident.
• The entrance stone was apparently very large and heavy, because the women wondered how they would get into the tomb to properly care for the body of Jesus.
• The tomb was empty.
• Jesus appeared to the disciples.
• The disciples saw Jesus ascend into heaven.
• The disciples became very bold in their proclaiming of Jesus as the Son of God, as Savior, and as Lord even under the threat of death.

That is quite a change in the attitude of the disciples. They went from being scared for their lives to bold proclaimers not fearful for their own life.

The Jews were afraid something like that would happen. They would prevent it or quench it at any cost. All they had to do was any one of the following:

• Produce the body of Jesus.
• Get the guards to identify who stole the body.
• Get just one of the disciples to refute the account of the resurrection and ascension.

They never did any of those things. The Romans and Jews controlled the city. They could search anywhere they chose. They could detain, question, scourge, or even crucify people to get information or get people to recant their witness. They never accomplished anything to refute the resurrection and ascension of Jesus.

Jesus is God as man. No one, even the Jews of the time of the crucifixion have ever proved differently.

 

[migtig]

Mig...are you playing baseball again?

Softball...:shrug:
http://www.mediasoftball.net/

 

[Tonio]

Thank-You, although mine was mearly an observation on how Hollywood, specifically, the History channel (gasp) too gets caught-up in the game...

From the listings, the channel focuses a lot on religious and secular prophecy (such as Nostradamus) as well as conspiracy theories about JFK and UFOs. There's also a strong military focus, even running fictional movies such as "Clear and Present Danger. So I doubt that the channel has any kind of "Da Vinci Code" agenda.