How To Get To Heaven When You Die

Do You Place Your Faith In Jesus Christ For Salvation, Believing That He Died & Rose Again For You?

  • YES

    Votes: 4 21.1%

  • No

    Votes: 4 21.1%

  • I Already Placed My Faith In Jesus Christ To Save Me

    Votes: 10 52.6%

  • Other

    Votes: 1 5.3%
  • Total voters
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xfrodobagginsx

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Eph 2:10 For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them. {ordained: or, prepared}
 
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xfrodobagginsx

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Kinnakeet said:
It appears there was incest going on with Adam and Eve because someone had to hump their child to have another child and so on to start the earths population is that not a sin in the bible...asking for a friends friend
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Not at that time. The DNA pool was freshly created and didn't have the errors that we see today. It wasn't a sin to marry relatives at that time. They had no one else to marry as you roughly stated. When the Law was given to Moses, incest was forbidden because the gene pool was becoming more corrupted and usually those bad genes are recessive. So, since the law was given by God, it became a sin. Now, with science showing us the Genetic issues with marrying close relatives we can see why. All races have their bad recessive genes, which is why It is best to marry your genetic opposite. Two gene pools that have been isolated from each other for hundreds or thousands of years is ideal.
 
seekeroftruth

seekeroftruth

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jrt_ms1995 said:
And Lot's daughters got him drunk and screwed him so they could have children. Your friend would like to know.
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After a horrific meteor storm, surviving in a cave, they thought they were the only ones alive. Lot's wife was encased in salt during the escape. Lot was not a willing participant. They had to get him drunk to sleep with him. So.... they thought they were saving the world. What would you do? If your friend is dealing with incest, maybe you should put your arm around them and tell them the truth. It's not that the daughters were whores... it was never condoned.... they thought they were the only women in the world... and they only had one option.

Now... if you want to argue... Why not bring up the fact that Mary was not married to Joseph when she found out she was pregnant? Jesus was, in fact, a bastard child to everyone who didn't know. Mary went to see her family who were priests in the Temple. They accepted the baby. They didn't talk about His lack of a human father.

The story of Lot's daughters, and Mary's dilemma are fascinating reads... You should take a look.

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Kinnakeet

Kinnakeet

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seekeroftruth said:
Actually..... that's how humans had to start.... like puppies.....

And King Solomon had 300 wives and 700 concubines..... so he was busy...

And we just read yesterday that Judah's daughter-in-law slept with Judah because her husband died, then his brother died after "pulling out" so Judah would let any more of his boys sleep with her..... as was the custom in the Old Testament.... so she disguised herself... slept with Judah and had twins.

The Bible is full of great stories.... there's even a left handed swordsman and a talking mule.

It's great.... read it... it's fun....

And yes... monogamy didn't start until recently in history..... for your friend.....
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Does the bible say incest is bad
 
seekeroftruth

seekeroftruth

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Kinnakeet said:
Does the bible say incest is bad
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Paul says incest caused problems in the church in Corinth. The story about Lot's daughters [Genesis] showed they had to make Lot drunk first, so he was not a willing participant. I don't know how that works in men... but willingness isn't necessary for women. Back in the book of Ruth, a widow automatically became the wife [property] of the dead man's brothers or father. Ruth had to wait until the family decided they had no use for her before Boaz could take her as his wife.

Does the bible say incest is bad? Well, that's way above my paygrade apparently. I don't think incest was bad... until the seed started to get tainted.

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seekeroftruth

seekeroftruth

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xfrodobagginsx said:
PLEASE TAKE THE TIME TO READ THIS. IT'S THE MOST IMPORTANT THING YOU COULD EVER DO AND IT ONLY TAKES A FEW MINUTES
ARE YOU 100% SURE THAT IF YOU DIED TODAY THAT YOU WOULD GO TO HEAVEN? (CLICK 'READ MORE')

There are some things that you should know:

1. Realize that you are a sinner and in need of a Savior:

Ro 3:23 "For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;"

Ro 3:10 "As it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one:"

It all began when the first humans, Adam and Eve were created and God put them in the garden of Eden. God created them perfect to live in fellowship with Him. There was no death or sorrow. God told them not to eat of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil. They disobeyed God and as a result, sin entered into the world. The pain, which this world sees, is the result of sin.

2. Because of our sins, we die both spiritually and physically, but God sent His Son to die so that you can have a chance not to have to go to hell by accepting what He did on the cross:

Ro 6:23 "For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord."

Ro 5:8 "But God demonstrates His own love toward us, in that while we were still sinners, Christ died for us."

Every person who has ever lived is a sinner and is not righteous because we do bad things. A sin is a crime against God, just as if you steal something at the store, it is punishable by going to jail. It's the same thing with sin. Lying, stealing, sex before marriage, pride, hatred, ect. are all sins. Hell is a prison for those who commit crimes against God. That’s because you must be perfect in order to get to heaven. No matter how well you live your life from then on, you have already sinned, which will be punished if you are not pardoned. If you commit a crime, and then live as a good citizen you still will go to jail for the crime you committed. Right? Just as the President can pardon a crime so you won't go to jail, Jesus can pardon your sins so that you do not go to hell, and can go to heaven when you die. You won’t have to pay for your own sins because Jesus already did that for you, But if you reject the pardon that He offers, you will have to pay for your own sins by going to hell. He is the only one qualified because He is the only one ever to live a sinless, perfect life.

3. If you will confess Jesus Christ as Your Lord, place your Faith in Him and Believe in your heart that He died, shed His blood and rose again as a sacrifice for your sins, you will be saved (from hell).

Heb 11:6 But without faith it is impossible to please Him, for he who comes to God must believe that He is, and that He is a rewarder of those who diligently seek Him.

Heb 9:22 And almost all things are by the law purged with blood; and without shedding of blood is no remission.

You cannot get to heaven by being a good person, going to church, baptism or any other way other than by turning to Jesus, believing in your heart that He died on the cross and rose from the dead for your sins and placing your Faith in Him. While these are good things to do, some people believe that they will get to heaven, but your Faith must be in Christ and His sacrifice alone and nothing else, giving your life to Him.

Eph 2:8,9 For by grace you have been saved through faith, and that not of yourselves; it is the gift of God, not of works, lest anyone should boast.

Ro 10:9,10;13 "that if you confess with your mouth the Lord Jesus and believe in your heart that God has raised Him from the dead, you will be saved...For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved."

4. You must submit your life to Jesus Christ and His will in Faith, believing in your heart that He died and rose again shedding His blood to pay for your sins as a sacrifice to God. If you want to accept Jesus free gift of salvation, or if you have any doubts about whether or not you are going to heaven, YOU COULD HUMBLY PRAY SOMETHING LIKE THIS TO GOD FROM YOUR HEART IN FAITH:

”Dear Lord Jesus I know that I am a sinner and need you to save me. I believe that You are the Lord and believe in my heart that You died on the Cross and Rose from the dead, shedding your blood as a Sacrifice for my sins. I turn to You as the only way of Salvation, I submit my life to you, I submit my will to yours, I place my Faith and Trust in You alone as Lord of my life, Please save me and I thank You for it, in Jesus holy name, Amen.”

If you have truly placed your faith in Jesus Christ as your Lord, submitting your life to Him, you can know that you are a child of God and on your way to heaven. Now that you are on your way to heaven, you should attend a bible believing church and follow in baptism.
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Y'all should not miss this post. Y'all should let your heart lead you.

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xfrodobagginsx

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The Church is the Bride of Christ. The true Church, is not a Denomination. It is made up of true believers who have placed their faith in Christ alone for Salvation, believing that He died and rose again, shedding His blood as a Sacrifice for our sins.
 
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xfrodobagginsx

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‭‭Matthew‬ ‭7:21‭-‬23‬ ‭KJV‬‬
[21] Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven. [22] Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? [23] And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.
 
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