Hypocritter

Larry Gude

Strung Out
Amusing as that is, it's not even remotely similar.

I couldnt' even tell you who the #### she is, as I don't spend my time doting over celebrities. The nature of the statement on the shirt is what was of significance to me.

I could care less if Arnold Schwarzenegger, Marie Osmond or Eddie Bracken were the template photo.

Really doesnt take much to get you Lefties spun up now days, does it?


So, challenge yourself to do the opposite.

A t shirt that says 'We hate Obama because he's not American; You hate Trump because you're not American"

How does that make you feel? What is gained, or lost, from it?
 

Kyle

Beloved Misanthrope
PREMO Member
So, challenge yourself to do the opposite.

A t shirt that says 'We hate Obama because he's not American; You hate Trump because you're not American"

How does that make you feel? What is gained, or lost, from it?

If it fits the narrative, it would apply.

For me? Nothing lost, nothing gained.
 

vraiblonde

Board Mommy
PREMO Member
Patron
A t shirt that says 'We hate Obama because he's not American; You hate Trump because you're not American"

How does that make you feel? What is gained, or lost, from it?

I think that's hilarious and if it makes one prog head explode, mission accomplished.
 

This_person

Well-Known Member
So, challenge yourself to do the opposite.

A t shirt that says 'We hate Obama because he's not American; You hate Trump because you're not American"

How does that make you feel? What is gained, or lost, from it?

Maybe it's just me, but I believe that the hypocrisy is to assume Trump haters (which is a hypocrisy in and of itself, since these haters routinely preach love and acceptance) believe they hate for substance but no one can hate their guy for substance. Add to that a third level of lumping all people together based on a single factor and judging them, accusing them of lumping all people who have a different single factor together and judging those people, is a pretty funny hypocrisy.
 

Larry Gude

Strung Out
Maybe it's just me, but I believe that the hypocrisy is to assume Trump haters (which is a hypocrisy in and of itself, since these haters routinely preach love and acceptance) believe they hate for substance but no one can hate their guy for substance. Add to that a third level of lumping all people together based on a single factor and judging them, accusing them of lumping all people who have a different single factor together and judging those people, is a pretty funny hypocrisy.

Right but that's a circle, a mirror if you will. What YOU are saying is that there is reason, sounds ones, to think Obama and Obama supporters as un-American, right? While at the same time, those just opposite have the exact same thoughts, feelings and DNA as you; They think there is sound reason to see Obama haters as racist and it being proper to hate them for it.
 

This_person

Well-Known Member
Right but that's a circle, a mirror if you will. What YOU are saying is that there is reason, sounds ones, to think Obama and Obama supporters as un-American, right? While at the same time, those just opposite have the exact same thoughts, feelings and DNA as you; They think there is sound reason to see Obama haters as racist and it being proper to hate them for it.

No, I'm not saying that there are sound reasons to believe they are un-American. I say there are sound reasons to dislike the person Obama and the policies. They're saying that there are no sound reasons so I must be racist. Meanwhile, they don't like Trump, therefore he's racist (no valid reasons given).
 

SamSpade

Well-Known Member
No, I'm not saying that there are sound reasons to believe they are un-American. I say there are sound reasons to dislike the person Obama and the policies. They're saying that there are no sound reasons so I must be racist. Meanwhile, they don't like Trump, therefore he's racist (no valid reasons given).

I think the constant "you're a racist if you don't agree with Obama" had a LOT to do with Trump's election.
I think a lot of voters got sick to death of being marginalized because they disagreed with something they had a legitimate reason to disagree with.
 

This_person

Well-Known Member
I think the constant "you're a racist if you don't agree with Obama" had a LOT to do with Trump's election.
I think a lot of voters got sick to death of being marginalized because they disagreed with something they had a legitimate reason to disagree with.

Exactly. There are certainly sound reasons to like and to dislike Obama, Trump, etc. We would do a disservice to ourselves and our fellow citizens to deny that.
 

Larry Gude

Strung Out
No, I'm not saying that there are sound reasons to believe they are un-American. I say there are sound reasons to dislike the person Obama and the policies. They're saying that there are no sound reasons so I must be racist. Meanwhile, they don't like Trump, therefore he's racist (no valid reasons given).

Just for fun, make the case for Obama and his polices and make the case against Trump and his. If you understand them, their views, then intelligence doesn't require you to believe either, but it does require you be able to explain them. Otherwise, if you can't do that, if you really don't even know your opponents positions, on what basis, other than feelings, do you oppose them or, how could you be able to persuade them otherwise?
 
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