Illegal immigrants moving out

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EmptyTimCup

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Plane?
Pedro managed to walk from taco land to where he is now without any money, seems to me that he can walk his refried bean smelling self back the same way.

I see no need to waste money on them.

if you give them the option of walking home, they will just stay longer. a bus of plane flight speeds up the process.
 

Larry Gude

Strung Out
People...

...what would you do? Our immigration policies, such as they are, mean you would wait a decade or more if you followed the rules.

In the mean time states like Maryland are re-writing everything in Spanish.
States have been doling out all sorts of assistance and other services, for years, that one might rightly think makes illegal immigration welcome if not outright encouraged.

In the mean time 1/2 the people you know are going to the US and making a living. Many send more money back than you could ever hope to make 'back home'. You gonna just stay in abject poverty? Not try to do better?

Obviously, whatever an illegal is making here, it is worth the journey v. staying home.

How many of us keep it under 10 mph over the speed limit because it's pretty much accepted that the law will let it go?

It is the same thing only more so; illegals have been welcomed with open arms to buy and rent and work and basically become Americans. Any ire and frustration should more rightly be directed at our politicians for not enforcing existing laws. Hell, they don't even throw out illegals who commit far more serious crimes than coming here to work and raise a family.

We gotta keep this in mind.
 

citysherry

I Need a Beer
...what would you do? Our immigration policies, such as they are, mean you would wait a decade or more if you followed the rules.

In the mean time states like Maryland are re-writing everything in Spanish.
States have been doling out all sorts of assistance and other services, for years, that one might rightly think makes illegal immigration welcome if not outright encouraged.

In the mean time 1/2 the people you know are going to the US and making a living. Many send more money back than you could ever hope to make 'back home'. You gonna just stay in abject poverty? Not try to do better?

Obviously, whatever an illegal is making here, it is worth the journey v. staying home.

How many of us keep it under 10 mph over the speed limit because it's pretty much accepted that the law will let it go?

It is the same thing only more so; illegals have been welcomed with open arms to buy and rent and work and basically become Americans. Any ire and frustration should more rightly be directed at our politicians for not enforcing existing laws. Hell, they don't even throw out illegals who commit far more serious crimes than coming here to work and raise a family.

We gotta keep this in mind.

:yay:That deserves a second read by all!

Very nicely put and without any derrogatory terms - Thank you!
 

cwo_ghwebb

No Use for Donk Twits
My latest karma: Don't go overseas - you're only contributing to our negative image by traveling outside our borders.


What negative image?

I can't go overseas to see my half-breed kids? :bawl:
 

This_person

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How many of us keep it under 10 mph over the speed limit because it's pretty much accepted that the law will let it go?

It is the same thing only more so; illegals have been welcomed with open arms to buy and rent and work and basically become Americans. Any ire and frustration should more rightly be directed at our politicians for not enforcing existing laws. Hell, they don't even throw out illegals who commit far more serious crimes than coming here to work and raise a family.
This is very true. Doesn't make it right, but very true. I just think it takes the situation too lightly.

Speeding is not breaking and entering. What you're saying, effectively, is that if you can get away with a crime, and you profit from that crime, you should allow yourself to commit the crime and blame the cops for not catching you, the courts for not providing enough deterrant to stop you, and the law makers for not pushing the cops and the courts. And, the people you hurt should not be upset with you, but with the mild law enforcement.

If the effects of illegal aliens were no more than speeding, I would agree with this line of thought. Since the effects are so much more, I have to say I think this approach takes it too lightly.
 

Larry Gude

Strung Out
Well...

Speeding is not breaking and entering. .

...working your azz off and following all the rest of the rules, paying your bills, keeping after the kids, ain't exactly a B & E either.

If I am taking it too lightly, many others, perhaps you, are taking it to heavily. It's one thing to set up radar and start heavier enforcement; everyone already has a license, they just need to slow down.

It's another to be draconian about it and run people off. Again, I lay far, far more fault at the feet of our elected leaders than I do on people with the get up and go to come here and make their own way. And if we agree it is our leaders then that points back to we, the people.

One of the MAJOR problems is social services. As we are a nation that beleives someone else should pay our bills, we have a fabric, what we call a 'safety net' where it is like an open trough. If we, as a society, expected people to buy their own insurance, if they like, pay their taxes directly to government and all around be more responsible for themselves, then the problem of the cost of social services evaporates.

Go to the hospital? Take your checkbook or cash whether you're from San Francisco, California or Baja, California.

Want schooling? Pay for it.

Want money to hold you over between jobs? Get it out of your savings account.

We create dependency and it rolls right over into immigrants as well as natives.
 
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EmptyTimCup

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Illegal immigrants... 02-07-2008 01:03 PM Just STFU and stop posting, no-one likes you

DILLYGAF

:bawl: Some Anon no balls pussy doesn't like me ........ :drama:

:bigwhoop:

:biteme:

:neener:
 
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This_person

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...working your azz off and following all the rest of the rules, paying your bills, keeping after the kids, ain't exactly a B & E either.
Come on. That's like saying if the criminal broke into your house but vacuumed your carpet it's not as bad as just breaking in. Yeah, it is.
If I am taking it too lightly, many others, perhaps you, are taking it to heavily. It's one thing to set up radar and start heavier enforcement; everyone already has a license, they just need to slow down.

It's another to be draconian about it and run people off. Again, I lay far, far more fault at the feet of our elected leaders than I do on people with the get up and go to come here and make their own way. And if we agree it is our leaders then that points back to we, the people.
I fully agree that the root of the problem is a system that favors some peoples over others, and is loaded with red tape, and then has violators not fully prosecuted. And that's our fault, and our elected officials faults. I fully agree with that.

But, if people didn't violate the laws, there would be no need to consider the fault of less than strenuous enforcement. It's the criminals' fault as much as everyone else's, is what I'm trying to say.
One of the MAJOR problems is social services. As we are a nation that beleives someone else should pay our bills, we have a fabric, what we call a 'safety net' where it is like an open trough. If we, as a society, expected people to buy their own insurance, if they like, pay their taxes directly to government and all around be more responsible for themselves, then the problem of the cost of social services evaporates.

Go to the hospital? Take your checkbook or cash whether you're from San Francisco, California or Baja, California.

Want schooling? Pay for it.

Want money to hold you over between jobs? Get it out of your savings account.

We create dependency and it rolls right over into immigrants as well as natives.
I fully agree. Give me back the 35% of the 40% I pay in taxes, and let the market control the things you covered and more.

That doesn't make it okay to take what's not yours, be it the benefits of citizenship, jobs from legal residents, etc., etc. It's still wrong, and primarily the people doing wrong are at fault. We all hear every year how low a percentage is that the IRS will audit - doesn't make it okay to fudge your taxes because of low probability of getting caught, y'know?
 
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RadioPatrol

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Illegal immigrants... 02-07-2008 02:12 PM FYI the term "wetback" is as offensive as the "n" word is ~ citysherry


Well thanks for singing your karma citysherry :whistle:

all these desert crossing, rio grande swimming illegals can take there taco munching asz back to Mexico or what ever country they slimed their way in here from


:coffee:
 
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RadioPatrol

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This is very true. Doesn't make it right, but very true. I just think it takes the situation too lightly.

Speeding is not breaking and entering. What you're saying, effectively, is that if you can get away with a crime, and you profit from that crime, you should allow yourself to commit the crime and blame the cops for not catching you, the courts for not providing enough deterrent to stop you, and the law makers for not pushing the cops and the courts. And, the people you hurt should not be upset with you, but with the mild law enforcement.

If the effects of illegal aliens were no more than speeding, I would agree with this line of thought. Since the effects are so much more, I have to say I think this approach takes it too lightly.



Shouldn't the Mexican Gov face Criminal Charges for conspiring with Migrants to commit crimes in violation for US Law ? Like RICO Act ......

Comic book to educate illegal immigrants - El Universal - Mexico News

COMING TO AMERICA
How to be an illegal
Mexico government publishes guide to assist border crossers


The government of Mexico is raising eyebrows with a new comic book offering advice on how to cross the border into the U.S. illegally.

Called "The Guide for the Mexican Migrant," the 32-page book published by Mexico's Foreign Ministry uses simple language to offer information on safety, legal rights and living unobtrusively in America.

"This guide is intended to give you some practical advice that could be of use if you have made the difficult decision to seek new work opportunities outside your country," the book says, according to the Arizona Republic.

Illustrations depict illegals wading into a river, trying to evade U.S. Border Patrol and crouching near a hole in a border fence. Immigrants are also shown hiking through the desert with rock formations similar to those in Arizona and being caught by an American agent.

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