Okay, THAT was freaky! Larry must be at home on my computer and forgot to log out as me before he posted.vraiblonde said:
The rest of the posts were me, just not that one.
The rest of the posts were me, just not that one.
UrbanPancake
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Sometimes things can be pretty freaky when your speaking with me on here.
or is that geeky.... I'm not sure.
or is that geeky.... I'm not sure.
HELLO??? Do you think Iraqis had healthcare or Social Security??? Or are you just talking about us? And, if you are, how does us having government handouts promote world peace???UrbanPancake said:
As is Cuba. What would you say if Bush made the announcement that we were going to start bombing all those countries because they were Communist?
You ARE right about one thing - Communism is bad for the world economy and particularly bad for the people who have to live under it. So if you're advocating deposing ALL Communist dictators, I'm right there with ya.
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vraiblonde said:
Vrai... I just see him as old, feeble and harmless these days.... as he has been for the past 10 or so years :shrug: Glad I could give you a laugh though
UrbanPancake
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vraiblonde said:
I would rather our tax dollars go towards Americans....
I don't want us to go to war with Communism. If we went after North Korea, or Cuba who do you think would back them up... China. The funny thing is, is that China can hit us back where it hurts...home.
UrbanPancake
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dems4me said:Vrai... I just see him as old, feeble and harmless these days.... as he has been for the past 10 or so years :shrug: Glad I could give you a laugh though
Don't forget Fidel. He's pretty old and harmless.....didn't he break a hip or something?
You really don't pay a lick of attention to the news or current events, do you? What makes you think Saddam has been old, feeble and harmless for the last 10 years?dems4me said:
It's interesting how liberals (in general, not necessarily you in particular) want us to send big bucks all over the world to feed, house, clothe and condomize everyone, yet they don't like the idea of us spending money to make it so citizens of those countries don't get drug out of their houses in the middle of the night and tortured because they didn't show proper reverence to a statue of the dictator. Or to prevent their daughters from being captured and taken to a government-sponsored rape room.UrbanPancake said:
UrbanPancake
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Exactly. I don't support the raping of daughters though. I think change should happen from a grassroots level from within a country. Just like us.
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You do realize that our government is a little different than theirs, right? That George Bush isn't sending the National Guard to your house to arrest you for disagreeing with him?What would you do if that did happen? If Bush had armed guards come and cut body parts off your children until you confessed to whatever they wanted you to confess to?
What if the Bush twins had the Redskins rounded up and beaten because they didn't win their football game?
There IS a grass roots movement in Iraq to become a representative government like we are. They've been trying since before the last Gulf War. They just don't get very far because it's just them against the whole Iraqi military, under Saddam's direction. Where do you think all those new Iraqi military and police recruits are coming from?
They needed help. We provided it. I'd think liberals, in particular, would be ecstatic about that. The ACLU and Amnesty International should have George Bush canonized because this is precisely what they say their own agenda and mission is.
UrbanPancake
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I would probably sh*t bricks....
ylexot
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In case you didn't know this, Cheney has no (zero, zilch, nada) financial ties with Halliburton.dems4me said:
http://www.factcheck.org/article261.html
Several things, it isn’t a “take over of Iraq”, it was removing a regime. Which I would say is well on the way. The regime was a threat, not just for WMD, but for all the other 20-odd reasons stated in the IWR. And if you think Osama is beyond our efforts I think you are wrong, I just don’t think you understand the task. I would also offer that you don’t understand radar anymore then the use of forces for any given objective. Look at the manpower that went into locating the Atlanta Olympic bomber. Five years, nothing until he screwed up and got caught. And that was hiding right here where we didn’t have international obstacles in our way.dems4me said:You are not alone sweetie.. you and the other half of the country don't feel 100% correct in the take over of Iraq and letting Osama get out of the sights of our radar due to overstretching our troops over a threat that was non-existant.We are not the World's police and shouldn't be. We are just a country that exists in the world of other countries and cultures.
The quest for Osama in the remote Afghan/Pakistan mountains is a significant chore that cannot be accomplished by shear numbers unless we are willing to accept a very high body count. This area is unimproved and so rugged that it would be a foot soldiers battle that would have them facing many opportunities for ambush. These guys are doing it right, they are taking their time and doing it as safe as it can be. They will close in on him eventually. They can’t rush into an area like Baghdad because there isn’t one. Osama is living in caves, has assistance from many that consider him a hero, and is hiding in a very rugged area that his people know well. He has the advantage, we have the persistence, time will tell which is the best.
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dems4me said:Vrai sweets... I love ya', but I have to disagree... there is a difference in your hypothetical and UPs. SH1T happens and accidents happen, life is not perfect, and the tragedies you specified are not preventable... These things you have listed are all accidents or SH1T happens events... not due to the President of our country putting our loved one's at war with no premise and proven false and noncredible information that we as a country were threated by attack of Saddam (some old decrepit man living in a hole)... Where's Osama-Bin-Forgotten????? Why wasn't, or better yet, isn't he, our focal point?
Nonethelss Vrai, I pray for you and your family
It is Dick that I hold responsible for this, Bush is a puppet to Cheney. But as long as he is our President I have to support him, it's just hard sometimes when you feel we are over there on hypersuggestable reasons and false pretenses and you hear of all the young kids dying over there DAILY as a result of his bad decisions and lack of threat to the U.S. This whole Iraq thing, just don't pan out with me and I pray daily for those that are over there... No matter what we do to Saddam, it will never bring back the victims that were killed due to him in the years past...I hope you can open-mindedly accept my reasoning...
for ya' Vrai.
dems4me! 
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kwillia said:
I don't use mpds!!!! 
Dixie