I'm reading the Koran

Misfit

Misfit

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I’m on chapter 15 of the Quran and some interesting things I’ve noticed so far.

I was only a few chapters in and there was a call to kill all the unrepentant infidels

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But then there was a paragraph telling them to accept infidels into their fold so that they can teach them repentance.

:huggy:

Also there are a bunch of stories that are in the bible. :dance:

So far I’ve read about Joseph being sold by his brothers & the story about Potiphar's wife being :hot: for Joseph.
 
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Tilted

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Misfit said:
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Also there are a bunch of stories that are in the bible. :dance:

So far I’ve read about Joseph being sold by his brothers & the story about Potiphar's wife being :hot: for Joseph.
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It's a derivative work and, for that matter, belief system. So... yeah, that shouldn't be surprising.

Oversimplifying a bit: The creation of the Muslim religion was about empowering a body of people that perceived themselves (for whatever reasons, perhaps mistakenly) as the have nots (or otherwise trodden class) relative to those they perceived as the haves. So, naturally, it made sense for their backstory to play off of the backstory of the perceived haves.
 
withrespect

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Tilted said:
It's a derivative work and, for that matter, belief system. So... yeah, that shouldn't be surprising.

Oversimplifying a bit: The creation of the Muslim religion was about empowering a body of people that perceived themselves (for whatever reasons, perhaps mistakenly) as the have nots (or otherwise trodden class) relative to those they perceived as the haves. So, naturally, it made sense for their backstory to play off of the backstory of the perceived haves.
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seekeroftruth

seekeroftruth

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Tilted said:
It's a derivative work and, for that matter, belief system. So... yeah, that shouldn't be surprising.

Oversimplifying a bit: The creation of the Muslim religion was about empowering a body of people that perceived themselves (for whatever reasons, perhaps mistakenly) as the have nots (or otherwise trodden class) relative to those they perceived as the haves. So, naturally, it made sense for their backstory to play off of the backstory of the perceived haves.
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They are descendants of Ishmael, Abraham's son with Hagar. That's what I'm studying now.... so it's no wonder they think they are the have nots and the misfits. Isaac got to be the "chosen" one and Ishmael wasn't.

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GURPS

GURPS

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seekeroftruth said:
They are descendants of Ishmael, Abraham's son with Hagar. That's what I'm studying now.... so it's no wonder they think they are the have nots and the misfits. Isaac got to be the "chosen" one and Ishmael wasn't.

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damn women
... responsible for all the worlds troubles

Genesis 16
New International Version (NIV)

Hagar and Ishmael
16 Now Sarai, Abram’s wife, had borne him no children. But she had an Egyptian slave named Hagar; 2 so she said to Abram, “The Lord has kept me from having children. Go, sleep with my slave; perhaps I can build a family through her.”

Abram agreed to what Sarai said. 3 So after Abram had been living in Canaan ten years, Sarai his wife took her Egyptian slave Hagar and gave her to her husband to be his wife. 4 He slept with Hagar, and she conceived.

When she knew she was pregnant, she began to despise her mistress. 5 Then Sarai said to Abram, “You are responsible for the wrong I am suffering. I put my slave in your arms, and now that she knows she is pregnant, she despises me. May the Lord judge between you and me.”
 
seekeroftruth

seekeroftruth

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When ISIS started it's rampage I googled Islam. That's where I found this.

Many people ask two questions, "When and how did Islam begin and where did Islam originate?" Although Islam is not mentioned directly in the Bible, there is recorded in the Bible an outline of the Arabic people as the Children of Abraham who inhabited the “eastern country”. The history of the Muslim peoples, therefore, begins with the prophet Abraham and his descendants through Ishmael, his firstborn son.​

It's in the Bible, the Torah, Genesis 25:6,12-18, RSV. “But to the sons of his concubines Abraham gave gifts, and while he was still living he sent them away from his son Isaac, eastward to the east country." "These are the descendants of Ishmael, Abraham's son, whom Hagar the Egyptian, Sarah's maid, bore to Abraham]​

They dwelt from Havilah to Shur, which is opposite Egypt in the direction of Assyria; he settled over against all his people.” The areas noted here in verse 18 are located in Central and Northern Arabia.​

Ishmaelites (the descendants of Ishmael had become traders in spices) rescue Joseph (a son of Jacob, son of Isaac). It's in the Bible, the Torah, Genesis 37:25 & 28, RSV. “Then they sat down to eat; and looking up they saw a caravan of Ishmaelites coming from Gilead, with their camels bearing gum, balm, and myrrh, on their way to carry it down to Egypt… and they drew Joseph up and lifted him out of the pit, and sold him to the Ishmaelites for twenty shekels of silver; and they took Joseph to Egypt.”​

So that's when I started looking at the Bible and Abraham.... the beginning of all this ISIS stuff.

I don't know how or when the rapture is going to happen, but I do believe that what's going on with ISIS and Russia is major. Check out Gog and Magog.

Gog will be the leader of a great army that attacks the land of Israel. Gog is described as “of the land of Magog, the prince of Rosh, Meshech, and Tubal” (Ezekiel 38:2-3). Ezekiel's battle of Gog and Magog occurs in the tribulation period, more specifically in the first 3 1/2 years.​

Follow this link to a map....



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Merlin99

Merlin99

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seekeroftruth said:
They are descendants of Ishmael, Abraham's son with Hagar. That's what I'm studying now.... so it's no wonder they think they are the have nots and the misfits. Isaac got to be the "chosen" one and Ishmael wasn't.

:coffee:
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You just know marrying someone named Hagar is not going to end well.
 
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