Impeachment
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Once again, batting 1000. Too bad most of your analysis is wasted on the audience.
I vote for "#### it all."
There's no having dialog with a group that chooses to base everything on their feelings instead of reality.
In the absence of sound and honest dialog there's only one avenue left to resolve a disagreement.
See to it the Liberty Tree is substantially watered, and the DNC no longer exists, we can get back to making America great again.
There's no having dialog with a group that chooses to base everything on their feelings instead of reality.
In the absence of sound and honest dialog there's only one avenue left to resolve a disagreement.
See to it the Liberty Tree is substantially watered, and the DNC no longer exists, we can get back to making America great again.
I'm only semi following this story, and only because it's all over the news and I can't hardly miss it even though we don't have cable at this RV park so I don't have Gutfeld telling me what to think.
It appears that, since this isn't a real hearing or anything legitimate, there's no transparency and the soundbites coming out are selected by the Democrats for their own political purposes. So we're all trying to listen at the door to a very important meeting, going, "What did he say?" and nobody really knows. The newsbots are going, "Oh, he said THIS!" then we find out a few hours later that that's not what he said at all.
I'm used to the Democrats prattling to rouse their rabble, I get alarmed, and then it comes out that what they're saying isn't even close to the truth. So I'll wait until the official hearings when people are under oath and it's televised so I can see for myself and not have to rely on the biased fakenews media to tell me what happened.
What I do know is that their narrative is messed up and any functioning person should be able to understand that. "Trump paid Ukraine to dig dirt on his political opposition!" Um, not quite. Joe Biden publicly admitted that he threatened Ukraine if they didn't stop investigating his son's shady business dealings - he's right there on video in his own specific words. He clearly engaged in QPQ by his own public admission. Trump said, "Ukraine, we need to get to the bottom of this and also if our elections are being compromised." There is some debate as to whether or not there was a financial carrot attached to Ukraine's cooperation, but that doesn't matter. The investigation should be about Joe Biden, not Trump.
We also know that the Democrats have been trying to impeach our President since the day he was elected, and have repeatedly failed in their attempts to find something - anything - that they could make stick. We spent a freaking fortune on the Mueller report, and that was a bust. For four years we've had nonstop ravings in the news about how this or that or 2 scoops of ice cream is an impeachable act. They keep releasing these fake polls insisting that EVERYONE IN AMERICA!!! wants Trump impeached and hung for treason. They trot out obviously crazy women to say Trump raped them in a freaking dressing room.
It's a bullshit media assault on public opinion and nothing more.
IF the Dems have something impeachable, they should bring it and stop screwing around. Clearly they're trying to run out the clock to 2020 and anyone with a working brain understands that.
Now:
We can either do our We the People, of the People, by the People, for the People thing; OR we can just say eff it and let the Leftist media and Democrat Party choose our President instead. No need to bother voting, just let them take over and install whomever they want. Turn our whole country into California and Detroit and Baltimore and NYC and all those other super great places they reign over.
I already know what I choose and I'm not going to change my mind, no matter what CNN and AOC come up with.
It appears that, since this isn't a real hearing or anything legitimate, there's no transparency and the soundbites coming out are selected by the Democrats for their own political purposes. So we're all trying to listen at the door to a very important meeting, going, "What did he say?" and nobody really knows. The newsbots are going, "Oh, he said THIS!" then we find out a few hours later that that's not what he said at all.
I'm used to the Democrats prattling to rouse their rabble, I get alarmed, and then it comes out that what they're saying isn't even close to the truth. So I'll wait until the official hearings when people are under oath and it's televised so I can see for myself and not have to rely on the biased fakenews media to tell me what happened.
What I do know is that their narrative is messed up and any functioning person should be able to understand that. "Trump paid Ukraine to dig dirt on his political opposition!" Um, not quite. Joe Biden publicly admitted that he threatened Ukraine if they didn't stop investigating his son's shady business dealings - he's right there on video in his own specific words. He clearly engaged in QPQ by his own public admission. Trump said, "Ukraine, we need to get to the bottom of this and also if our elections are being compromised." There is some debate as to whether or not there was a financial carrot attached to Ukraine's cooperation, but that doesn't matter. The investigation should be about Joe Biden, not Trump.
We also know that the Democrats have been trying to impeach our President since the day he was elected, and have repeatedly failed in their attempts to find something - anything - that they could make stick. We spent a freaking fortune on the Mueller report, and that was a bust. For four years we've had nonstop ravings in the news about how this or that or 2 scoops of ice cream is an impeachable act. They keep releasing these fake polls insisting that EVERYONE IN AMERICA!!! wants Trump impeached and hung for treason. They trot out obviously crazy women to say Trump raped them in a freaking dressing room.
It's a bullshit media assault on public opinion and nothing more.
IF the Dems have something impeachable, they should bring it and stop screwing around. Clearly they're trying to run out the clock to 2020 and anyone with a working brain understands that.
Now:
We can either do our We the People, of the People, by the People, for the People thing; OR we can just say eff it and let the Leftist media and Democrat Party choose our President instead. No need to bother voting, just let them take over and install whomever they want. Turn our whole country into California and Detroit and Baltimore and NYC and all those other super great places they reign over.
I already know what I choose and I'm not going to change my mind, no matter what CNN and AOC come up with.
Clem72
Well-Known Member
Yeah, if the guy that takes your towel at the base Gym had Hillary's e-mail on a private server in his basement he would have had the book thrown at him.
GWguy
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I just don't get it anyway. I mean, politics just isn't my thing, I dont understand a lot of the what and why, I'd rather be tinkering in the garage. But, as I understand it, impeachment procedures are lengthy, with the final sentencing done by the Senate. Since the Senate is currently Republican, pretty sure this will just dead-end anyway. Do Dems really think an impeachment will be successful? What am I missing? Are the Dems convinced they will take back the Senate in time to proceed?
Just seems like a huge waste of time to me.
Just seems like a huge waste of time to me.
Yooper
Up. Identified. Lase. Fire. On the way.
Using the impeachment (and stringing it out) to cut into Trump's voting in 2020 and defeat him. Others would add (to include me) that it's an attempt to deflect away from Dem malfeasance in the 2016 election.
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PsyOps
Pixelated
And this is the part that the left purposely ignores. There was no dirt to dig for. Biden gave us the dirt on him, in his own words, on camera. It was already out there. All Trump did was ask Zelensky to look into it. This is typical leftist playbook stuff: accuse the other side of what we're guilty of. They do it with everything.
Collusion: Obama and his "I'll have more leverage after I get reelected". Hillary and her nuke deal with Russia and money trail to the Clinton foundation.
Obstruction: Bleachbit. Hammers to phones and Blackberries. 30,000 emails lost.
And now QPQ. What the hell was Biden using when he demanded the Ukraine investigator be fired? It was worse that QPQ; it was blackmail. Only people with their heads buried so deep in the leftist bot train ignore these facts. And they are facts.
But that's different.... He's a Democrat!
One political party should not throw stones from their glass house. Better look within you own political sphere before your world is shattered.
I really don't want to hear you scream at the sky again in 2020!
Midnightrider
Well-Known Member
What is your explanation for Sondland changing his story?
Coercion, extortion, retribution....
He was threatened into it. I think that's pretty obvious.
What is your explanation for him changing his story?
rangemanbad: of course.
Well, where I'm going with this is that MR et al think this guy was threatened into his original testimony, and I think he was threatened into retracting and reversing.
So what's the truth?
I want all these people under oath in open testimony. Until that happens it's just bullshit.
WingsOfGold
Well-Known Member
Biden Rule?
Trump's EU envoy admits Ukraine quid pro quo in updated testimony
Gordon Sondland says he told Ukraine it was unlikely to get $400m in aid unless it announced investigations into Trump rivalswww.theguardian.com
I realize this forum is a front for the Russian’s (Grup) or at least a money play by someone who doesn’t even live here. Anyway, the president is under an Impeachment investigation and one of the main witnesses ( Gordon Sondland ) just changed his memory (WTF?).
I thought this was a flavored malt liquor.
Midnightrider
Well-Known Member
threatened with what?
i never said Sondland was threatened into his original testimony. I think he probably was just toeing the company line. He is a team player and he was saying what he thought would benefit the team. Once his lawyers explained that his only real risk came from lying he dropped the company line. I bet there is proof of his sept 1 conversation and he knew that would be coming out soon
It's all smoke screen for the upcoming presidential election. All you will hear about in the debates are how his administration is constantly under investigation. Last election, quite a few states were too close to call until the very end. Convince a few nit wits that the president is somehow corrupt and that could swing a state.
Oh, they will. You can count on that. I wonder if the loser will go on a 3 year long excuse tour.